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post Dec 22 2020, 21:55
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Playing mage it'd not hard.

Playing mage WELL it's hard, ridicolously hard. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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Yeah, it's very, very hard.
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post Dec 22 2020, 22:10
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Yeah, it's very, very hard.
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Hey “evil” can you answer my previous question?? was mage with plain legend equip faster than melee?
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post Dec 22 2020, 22:41
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QUOTE(puppydoll @ Dec 22 2020, 22:39) *

let just say that if i want play mage with all plain legendary equipment. like 3 phase and 2 cotton. with no upgrade. was it gonna be faster than melee? now i was doing arena with 2H weapon and all Heavy power Equip. with full enchant, i was able to do 170 round of IWBTH with in half hour. was an plain mage gonna to be faster than that???

As one who switched this summer:
Probably not from the start, as you may have to start on hard. But with basic forging (5) except staff edb (30-max) and mdb (20-30) and prof on staff and cottons (max+as needed) on level 350-360 you should be able to clear all arenas on PFUDOR under 2 hours. Assuming you have needed prof factor. If dark is not completely different from elemental and you have decent (middling) staff with Pen5.
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post Dec 22 2020, 22:43
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Hey “evil” can you answer my previous question?? was mage with plain legend equip faster than melee?

I've never used plain Legendary myself, but yes it's faster in arena.
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post Dec 23 2020, 04:34
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Dexterity is not the same as agility, correct? It doesn't increase my speed/dodging ability? Is it worth upgrading on my Rapier or should I focus on Strength and Damage first?
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post Dec 23 2020, 05:04
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Dec 22 2020, 21:34) *

Dexterity is not the same as agility, correct? It doesn't increase my speed/dodging ability? Is it worth upgrading on my Rapier or should I focus on Strength and Damage first?

Dexterity is worth upgrading, in my opinion. Dexterity increases physical damage, physical crit chance, attack accuracy and parry chance.
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post Dec 23 2020, 16:48
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For equipment, is there a point in me holding onto certain types like Axes, Shortswords, Plate, Leather, etc. when it seems only certain things are likely to be successfully auctioned? IE: Rapiers, Force Shields, and Phase armor...
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post Dec 23 2020, 21:57
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Hello, I've abandoned HV for 2 years and now I remember... practically nothing. I can relearn, but it will take some time. Want to bump my income a little bit, as much as can be accomplished in 0.5-1 hour per day.

Current situation:
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Vigorous Vitality, Innate Arcana IV, Crystarium I, Tokenizer II.

I also have light DW set but it's worse.

I know you don't get rich playing HV, but if I will spend the aforementioned 1 hour per day, what is the best investment of time? I also may invest in some improvements (hath perks, training, equip) but I do not want to invest so much that it will not pay off in half a year.

And a separate question: I have 36 monsters (May get two more slots right now but maybe I'd better buff the current ones), lvls 50-270. If I buy food and pills and sell materials, will I be able to make a profit?

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post Dec 23 2020, 22:08
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ Dec 24 2020, 03:57) *

Hello, I've abandoned HV for 2 years and now I remember... practically nothing. I can relearn, but it will take some time. Want to bump my income a little bit, as much as can be accomplished in 0.5-1 hour per day.

Current situation:
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https://hentaiverse.org/equip/88422175/4766eebbac
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/97115279/e723363b82
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/94842171/e366b8d0ac

Vigorous Vitality, Innate Arcana IV, Crystarium I, Tokenizer II.

I also have light DW set but it's worse.

I know you don't get rich playing HV, but if I will spend the aforementioned 1 hour per day, what is the best investment of time? I also may invest in some improvements (hath perks, training, equip) but I do not want to invest so much that it will not pay off in half a year.

And a separate question: I have 36 monsters (May get two more slots right now but maybe I'd better buff the current ones), lvls 50-270. If I buy food and pills and sell materials, will I be able to make a profit?


With my Elec Mage Set (with 4 Magnificent Radiant Phase) I can clear from Fresh Meat to A Dance with Dragons in 1 Hour.

It worths. Just keep unlocking new Slots and feed Monsters to 50 PL, then wait them to give you Phazon and sell it, if you don't use it yourself.

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post Dec 23 2020, 22:23
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ Dec 23 2020, 19:57) *
...I also have light DW set but it's worse.


Highly doubt that - you've got a mismatched staff, the rest of your gear has close to no forging, mage scales very well but the entry level requirements are pretty high compared to other sets.


QUOTE(Paarfi @ Dec 23 2020, 19:57) *

I know you don't get rich playing HV, but if I will spend the aforementioned 1 hour per day, what is the best investment of time? I also may invest in some improvements (hath perks, training, equip) but I do not want to invest so much that it will not pay off in half a year.

And a separate question: I have 36 monsters (May get two more slots right now but maybe I'd better buff the current ones), lvls 50-270. If I buy food and pills and sell materials, will I be able to make a profit?


For pure income: arenas from the highest to lowest level, on the highest difficulty you can handle. The income largely comes from selling trophies & artifacts.

As for working on your monsters: no, there's no point in levelling monsters unless they're going to level 750 (where they no longer drop low-grade materials) or 1500+ (where they drop only high-grades, and also are now high enough to participate in battles against active players). It's almost always best to just keep unlocking more slots, and raising them to ~level 25. (There are breakpoints at which it becomes mathematically more efficient to raise scavenging levels instead of unlocking more slots, though personally I would just unlock all the slots for consistency.)

If you have to buy food and pills to keep them going, it'll still likely be profitable (albeit a bit uncertain), because they have a chance to bring highly valuable bindings or rare-type materials like Crystallized Phazon.
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post Dec 23 2020, 23:45
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I doubt it is better

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And yes I was kinda delaying real forging till I get good equip, then I decided to switch to mage and then just... dropped it all.

What exactly is mismatched about the staff: Destruction instead of Heimdall, or lack of Hallowed?

As you can see I have a little bit of cash (15 m if I convert Hath). Which of the equipment sets would be easier to upgrade to what is considered "acceptable" level? And I assume that after purchasing whatever is necessary I'd need to forge at least till I deplete all bindings I've stockpiled. Possibly also pay for IW?
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post Dec 24 2020, 00:54
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ Dec 23 2020, 21:45) *

What exactly is mismatched about the staff: Destruction instead of Heimdall, or lack of Hallowed?

As you can see I have a little bit of cash (15 m if I convert Hath). Which of the equipment sets would be easier to upgrade to what is considered "acceptable" level? And I assume that after purchasing whatever is necessary I'd need to forge at least till I deplete all bindings I've stockpiled. Possibly also pay for IW?


The prefix is a mismatch for the staff type - katalox doesn't have elemental proficiency or elemental base damages, while fiery adds fire base damage. The base damage from a prefix is pretty important, especially to holy. Using a hallowed katalox of destruction is viable, but even so, it's less desirable still than a Hallowed Oak of Heimdall. (For what it's worth, the requirements for holy are significantly higher than any other mage element, as it has the poorest prospects for imperil.)

With 15m, you could upgrade a dual-wield set significantly more than a mage set, but that's at least enough to buy the basics of a fire/cold mage set at a decent legendary level, with optimal prefixes/suffixes. Upgrading is another matter entirely...
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post Dec 24 2020, 01:08
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Ok, I thought that I understood the game at least a little bit, and now it seems like I don't understand it at all. I tried to play holy mage (I knew that my staff was effectively prefixless), and unless I hallucinated it I was going faster through arenas, especially once there are a lot of monsters in the round. I was dying sometimes on the same difficulty that I never died with DW, but the progress was faster. Which means I was doing something very wrong with DW.

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post Dec 24 2020, 01:57
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Hi, sort of new around here. Reading a bit about the game to see if it's worth playing it but couldn't really find an answer to this (tried searching the forum but didn't find much):

How many credits per hour does the game yield? I suppose like most games it's exponential meaning the more you play the more more you get. However i couldn't really find a figure (or chart) either here or in the wiki.

Truth be told i don't really care about the game, i would just be playing for currency and gallery perks. So i'm trying to find a figure to see if currency is quicker to gain with the game or with the galleries. So if anyone with in-game experience could answer i'd be grateful. Thank you.

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1) How many credits per hour does the game yield?
2) How many hours of playtime are necessary to acquire enough currency to buy all of the gallery related Hath perks (3040 Hath)?
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post Dec 24 2020, 02:08
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QUOTE(123aimbot123 @ Dec 24 2020, 07:57) *

Hi, sort of new around here. Reading a bit about the game to see if it's worth playing it but couldn't really find an answer to this (tried searching the forum but didn't find much):

How many credits per hour does the game yield? I suppose like most games it's exponential meaning the more you play the more more you get. However i couldn't really find a figure (or chart) either here or in the wiki.

Truth be told i don't really care about the game, i would just be playing for currency and gallery perks. So i'm trying to find a figure to see if currency is quicker to gain with the game or with the galleries. So if anyone with in-game experience could answer i'd be grateful. Thank you.

TL;DR
1) How many credits per hour does the game yield?
2) How many hours of playtime are necessary to acquire enough currency to buy all of the gallery related Hath perks (3040 Hath)?


I need 1 Hour to clear Arenas from Fresh Meat to A Dance with Dragons @ PFUDOR. The Income from direct Credits Drop and Selling useless Equipments is ungefair 200-300K. So let's take it as 250K. If the Price of Hath is 3750, Then 3040 Hath cost 11400000, which cost me 45.6 Days to play. If you sell other Things, like Energy Drink or Noodly Appendage, it will be even quicker.
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post Dec 24 2020, 02:41
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QUOTE(123aimbot123 @ Dec 23 2020, 23:57) *

Hi, sort of new around here. Reading a bit about the game to see if it's worth playing it but couldn't really find an answer to this (tried searching the forum but didn't find much):

How many credits per hour does the game yield? I suppose like most games it's exponential meaning the more you play the more more you get. However i couldn't really find a figure (or chart) either here or in the wiki.

Truth be told i don't really care about the game, i would just be playing for currency and gallery perks. So i'm trying to find a figure to see if currency is quicker to gain with the game or with the galleries. So if anyone with in-game experience could answer i'd be grateful. Thank you.

TL;DR
1) How many credits per hour does the game yield?
2) How many hours of playtime are necessary to acquire enough currency to buy all of the gallery related Hath perks (3040 Hath)?


Nah, income doesn't really go up that much. An average player who gets to ~level 300 (unlocking the top arena) can pull a few hundred thousand credits a day, playing roughly an hour or two. It does require some player interaction to sell the valuables (pure credit income is lower), but this isn't especially complex via HVMarket and there's not a huge number of items to be aware of for that matter.

How many hours... will vary a lot per player, depending on luck with equipment drops in particular, and personal choices on play styles. If you were very efficient and had a reasonably decent weapon, you could probably hit 300 in a month - maybe two - and then accumulate credits reasonably efficiently.

It is almost definitely faster than trying to get currency out of galleries. Uploading and torrenting are about quantity above all else, and unless you have access to paid content, it's unlikely you'll find much in-demand free material that isn't already uploaded. Torrents are covered (and automated) by a number of prolific users.

Finally, you could contribute to the H@H network if you're in an Asian country, have a few hundred gigs of disk space, and a very fast home connection. But even so, it'll still take months to build up your cache (and the NA/EU regions are oversaturated, leading to extremely slow cache building). If you fit all these criteria, it can be very lucrative.

It's entirely possible you'd get enough to buy 3k hath before 300, though, just from selling precursor artifacts. You could also sell low level equipments, if you put in the time to learn what to look for. It would help a lot if you learn quickly what sort of equipment is valuable and invest carefully, in which case you could play on higher difficulty from very early on.

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post Dec 24 2020, 03:09
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hello expert, I just buy innate arcana II, but not showing on setting for second slot. please help. already did logout and clear cookie and cache
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post Dec 24 2020, 03:12
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QUOTE(123aimbot123 @ Dec 24 2020, 00:57) *

Truth be told i don't really care about the game, i would just be playing for currency and gallery perks. So i'm trying to find a figure to see if currency is quicker to gain with the game or with the galleries. So if anyone with in-game experience could answer i'd be grateful. Thank you.

TL;DR
1) How many credits per hour does the game yield?
2) How many hours of playtime are necessary to acquire enough currency to buy all of the gallery related Hath perks (3040 Hath)?


tl;dr

First you'll have to sign a pact with your blood to sell your soul to the site. That's what "soulbound" equipment means.

Then you'll be able to get whatever you want, but you have to NEVER EVER look at how much time it takes, because any length of time is the same as nothing, when compared to the eternity that awaits us damned souls players.

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hello expert, I just buy innate arcana II, but not showing on setting for second slot. please help. already did logout and clear cookie and cache


You'll have to wait some time, it can activate almost immediately or it can take up to 24 hours. It's just random, due to no one knowing (except the admin) how the different background management tasks are scheduled.

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post Dec 24 2020, 04:47
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Should I hold onto my Amnesia shards, or is it better to sell them off for credits? I'm still not sure why they would be used to wipe an equipment piece's IW upgrade stats.
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