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Dec 6 2020, 11:51
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drained
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Wait, lord title says it gives 5% damage, do I lose that bonus if I choose to be dovakhiin? Also I see other titles like yours that gives twice lord's bonus damage, can I choose them and get bonus damage just like that? Will there be any disadvantages like the enemies becoming stronger?
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Dec 6 2020, 11:52
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hentailover6983
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QUOTE(lestion @ Dec 6 2020, 00:21)  DW, 2H and Niten all use shade armor. That said, shade tends to only be sellable if it's savage shadowdancer or at least savage fleet, although plain shadowdancers are very sellable lower than level 400.
Does this mean Shade Arcanist and Negation aren't very sellable for auctions?
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Dec 6 2020, 11:53
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Shank
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QUOTE(drained @ Dec 6 2020, 09:51)  Wait, lord title says it gives 5% damage, do I lose that bonus if I choose to be dovakhiin? Also I see other titles like yours that gives twice lord's bonus damage, can I choose them and get bonus damage just like that? Will there be any disadvantages like the enemies becoming stronger?
You get whats listed under the title, so you'd lose the bonus from lord. Enemies dont get stronger because of your title. Most people are godslayer because he bonus damage is more useful than the skill
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Dec 6 2020, 11:56
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drained
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QUOTE(Angaver @ Dec 6 2020, 11:53)  You get whats listed under the title, so you'd lose the bonus from lord. Enemies dont get stronger because of your title. Most people are godslayer because he bonus damage is more useful than the skill
Thanks, I guess I've been missing free damage all this time >.<
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Dec 6 2020, 12:26
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Nezu
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Dec 6 2020, 09:52)  Does this mean Shade Arcanist and Negation aren't very sellable for auctions?
Generally, yeah, although agile & savage arcanist are sometimes interesting to collectors (though you cannot expect much for them at legendary). Negation can be considered worthless except savage below level 400 (which even so may be a struggle to sell).
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Dec 7 2020, 12:57
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abdar1234
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How do I get good equipment on my own, without asking on the forums? Keep in mind that I'm low level and don't have many resources or credits, so how do you get equipment in this game?
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Dec 7 2020, 13:04
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(abdar1234 @ Dec 7 2020, 11:57)  How do I get good equipment on my own, without asking on the forums? Keep in mind that I'm low level and don't have many resources or credits, so how do you get equipment in this game?
You get equipment by dropping. You get good equipment by dropping it and having some luck. Higher difficulty means higher chance for higher tier equipment. Some Quartermaster Training would also help with this. But dont worry too much, at your level, you will have to change your equipment anyway a few times when you have out level it.
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Dec 7 2020, 18:36
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abdar1234
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Dec 7 2020, 13:04)  You get equipment by dropping. You get good equipment by dropping it and having some luck. Higher difficulty means higher chance for higher tier equipment. Some Quartermaster Training would also help with this. But dont worry too much, at your level, you will have to change your equipment anyway a few times when you have out level it.
Yes but I have a problem. I'm level 56 and I still can't beat the lvl 50 arena on the easiest difficulty. Hell, the lvl 40 arena is super, super difficult and I have to time potions and draughts of health perfectly, otherwise I lose (most of the time I still lose). Equipment seems to drop very, very, very rarely. Let me get this straight. You get equipment in this game by: going to arena, fighting mobs, and then sometimes they drop equipment. Is that right?
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Dec 7 2020, 19:31
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Noni
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QUOTE(abdar1234 @ Dec 7 2020, 17:36)  Yes but I have a problem. I'm level 56 and I still can't beat the lvl 50 arena on the easiest difficulty. Hell, the lvl 40 arena is super, super difficult and I have to time potions and draughts of health perfectly, otherwise I lose (most of the time I still lose).
Equipment seems to drop very, very, very rarely.
Let me get this straight. You get equipment in this game by: going to arena, fighting mobs, and then sometimes they drop equipment. Is that right?
did you equip the equipment that you have available? Is your equipment not broken? did you assign your attribute points? did you use your ability points, and slotted your abilities? There is a guaranteed equipment drop at the end of every arena. Also the first one. So, play the first arena's every day. This post has been edited by DJNoni: Dec 7 2020, 19:32
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Dec 8 2020, 12:56
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abdar1234
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 7 2020, 19:31)  did you equip the equipment that you have available? Is your equipment not broken? did you assign your attribute points? did you use your ability points, and slotted your abilities?
There is a guaranteed equipment drop at the end of every arena. Also the first one. So, play the first arena's every day.
Thank you, that helped a bit. I was ignoring abilities, that was a problem. I beat the lvl 50 arena thanks to you, thank you! I used the regen ability and it was great. But now I realize my build is very bad. I put my attribute points all over the place. I don't know if I should focus on heavy armor or another kind of armor, or if I should be a melee character or a mage. Any suggestions? What's the cheapest and laziest build that is also very strong? Thanks!
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Dec 8 2020, 14:27
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Noni
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QUOTE(abdar1234 @ Dec 8 2020, 11:56)  Thank you, that helped a bit.
I was ignoring abilities, that was a problem. I beat the lvl 50 arena thanks to you, thank you! I used the regen ability and it was great.
But now I realize my build is very bad. I put my attribute points all over the place.
I don't know if I should focus on heavy armor or another kind of armor, or if I should be a melee character or a mage. Any suggestions? What's the cheapest and laziest build that is also very strong? Thanks!
Cheapest and laziest? That depends a bit on your level. Low level, up to level 200 or so, I hear that 2h is easiest. You should use light armor for that. Then after level 200 or so (can also be earlier), 1h will become easier. That should be 1h melee style, using a shield with high block (force shield has highest block) and with heavy power armor. You can also start playing 1h from the beginning, that works as well. Because of the defense of a shield, it's could well be the laziest way to play.
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Dec 8 2020, 17:14
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abdar1234
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 8 2020, 14:27)  Cheapest and laziest? That depends a bit on your level. Low level, up to level 200 or so, I hear that 2h is easiest. You should use light armor for that. Then after level 200 or so (can also be earlier), 1h will become easier. That should be 1h melee style, using a shield with high block (force shield has highest block) and with heavy power armor. You can also start playing 1h from the beginning, that works as well. Because of the defense of a shield, it's could well be the laziest way to play.
Thanks mate!
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Dec 8 2020, 17:16
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(abdar1234 @ Dec 8 2020, 16:14)  Thanks mate!
Make sure you use a full set of one armor type tho. So only Plate/Power or only Leather/Shade, because otherwhise the armor abilities for that type wont be active.
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Dec 9 2020, 08:19
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aznknightfire
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What's the cheapest mage set to go now, and what should I aim for in equipment/forges?
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Dec 9 2020, 08:38
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Nezu
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QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Dec 9 2020, 06:19)  What's the cheapest mage set to go now, and what should I aim for in equipment/forges?
At the moment the economic choices are (starting from the cheapest) fire, cold and dark. The differences between fire and cold is minimal, while dark has a more expensive staff but only requires 3 phase items, since it uses 2 cottons for proficiency. Cottons are also cheaper to forge which may be a factor in your decision. Dark also has better arena performance (against schoolgirls) and better damage as imperil vs fire/cold (those two take a hit on their damage in order to use a willow staff for imperil hit rate). On the other hand, dark's upgrade routes are more limited in the future: most mages will start with charged, but for arena-only play radiants are preferred... however, radiant phase of fenrir will cost you significantly more than radiant surtr/niflheim, again on the grounds that dark performs better in arena (therefore arena-only players tend to be looking for those items, creating more competition). Gearing mage is a complex matter I've written about in this thread a number of times, but searching for it might be difficult... in short, you ideally want a willow staff of destruction with a prefix that matches your chosen element (elemental mages may choose redwood instead, which performs better in arenas and worse in other modes), cotton to raise your proficiency, and then either charged (defensive) or radiant (offensive) phases with spell damage matching your element. The proficiency factor formula is as follows: CODE (Your proficiency - your level) / your level Elemental mages aim for 0.79, while dark + holy mages need 1.0 - the reason being their imperil reduces enemy mitigation by less. A beginner elemental mage will most likely want to use either robe or pants for proficiency, while a holy/dark mage will use any combination of 2 out of cap, gloves and shoes (although it'll be much easier to reach 1.0 with cap/gloves, while using gloves/shoes will take more time and grinding). Finally, as for forging: a beginner mage should start by fully forging their staff, forging the important stats on all their clothes to 5, and fully forging the proficiency on their cotton slots. This can be expected to cost somewhere around 25m total off the top of my head. edit: a reference to where I've written about it before: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5775776This post has been edited by lestion: Dec 9 2020, 08:41
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Dec 9 2020, 18:35
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aznknightfire
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Awesome! Appreciate the advice!! Also, just tried HVMarket and it's awesome - thanks for everything! QUOTE(lestion @ Dec 9 2020, 01:38)  At the moment the economic choices are (starting from the cheapest) fire, cold and dark. The differences between fire and cold is minimal, while dark has a more expensive staff but only requires 3 phase items, since it uses 2 cottons for proficiency. Cottons are also cheaper to forge which may be a factor in your decision. Dark also has better arena performance (against schoolgirls) and better damage as imperil vs fire/cold (those two take a hit on their damage in order to use a willow staff for imperil hit rate). On the other hand, dark's upgrade routes are more limited in the future: most mages will start with charged, but for arena-only play radiants are preferred... however, radiant phase of fenrir will cost you significantly more than radiant surtr/niflheim, again on the grounds that dark performs better in arena (therefore arena-only players tend to be looking for those items, creating more competition). Gearing mage is a complex matter I've written about in this thread a number of times, but searching for it might be difficult... in short, you ideally want a willow staff of destruction with a prefix that matches your chosen element (elemental mages may choose redwood instead, which performs better in arenas and worse in other modes), cotton to raise your proficiency, and then either charged (defensive) or radiant (offensive) phases with spell damage matching your element. The proficiency factor formula is as follows: CODE (Your proficiency - your level) / your level Elemental mages aim for 0.79, while dark + holy mages need 1.0 - the reason being their imperil reduces enemy mitigation by less. A beginner elemental mage will most likely want to use either robe or pants for proficiency, while a holy/dark mage will use any combination of 2 out of cap, gloves and shoes (although it'll be much easier to reach 1.0 with cap/gloves, while using gloves/shoes will take more time and grinding). Finally, as for forging: a beginner mage should start by fully forging their staff, forging the important stats on all their clothes to 5, and fully forging the proficiency on their cotton slots. This can be expected to cost somewhere around 25m total off the top of my head. edit: a reference to where I've written about it before: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5775776
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Dec 10 2020, 09:14
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Chaisy
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QUOTE(lestion @ Dec 9 2020, 01:38)  The proficiency factor formula is as follows: CODE (Your proficiency - your level) / your level Elemental mages aim for 0.79, while dark + holy mages need 1.0 - the reason being their imperil reduces enemy mitigation by less. A beginner elemental mage will most likely want to use either robe or pants for proficiency, while a holy/dark mage will use any combination of 2 out of cap, gloves and shoes (although it'll be much easier to reach 1.0 with cap/gloves, while using gloves/shoes will take more time and grinding). Finally, as for forging: a beginner mage should start by fully forging their staff, forging the important stats on all their clothes to 5, and fully forging the proficiency on their cotton slots. This can be expected to cost somewhere around 25m total off the top of my head. edit: a reference to where I've written about it before: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5775776To erojh jioj, that was my question he was answering and its taken me 2 months to find all the gear to even get started, and now I'm still waiting to be able to soulfuse the majority of it, because its near impossible to find everything at a low enough level. Particularly the cotton robe/pants, I just gave up and bought a lvl 500 robe. Every once in a while I do the math on the number of soulfragments I have vs how many I need, which decreases every time I level up. When those two numbers intersect I'll finally be able to switch to mage. Question about the proficiency formula to the experts... I wasn't expecting that. So your modified proficiency at level 500 for Holy/Dark is desired to be 1000? 1000-500 / 500 = 1. And for Elemental its 895 (895 -500 / 500 = .79) Am I reading that right? And that's just to do it on pfudor, you can safely level your proficiences on lower settings? Unless I get a bigger bonus from my robe (which I can't equip yet) than I thought, I'm nowhere close to enough. This post has been edited by Chaisy: Dec 10 2020, 09:15
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Dec 10 2020, 10:22
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Chaisy @ Dec 10 2020, 07:14)  Question about the proficiency formula to the experts... I wasn't expecting that. So your modified proficiency at level 500 for Holy/Dark is desired to be 1000? 1000-500 / 500 = 1. And for Elemental its 895 (895 -500 / 500 = .79) Am I reading that right? And that's just to do it on pfudor, you can safely level your proficiences on lower settings?
Unless I get a bigger bonus from my robe (which I can't equip yet) than I thought, I'm nowhere close to enough.
Yes, you got the correct numbers. It's not really a breakpoint at which PFUDOR becomes easy (or anything lower), but the optimum for damage - the damage gain from mitigation reduction is accessible more readily than damage gains from improving equipment otherwise. With a willow staff, robe and the perk, it shouldn't be too difficult for an elemental mage to achieve 0.79, but it will probably take a little grinding. You can start on PFUDOR arenas almost immediately, but for other grinding, hell grindfests are viable, and IWBTH can still be quite comfortable for a mid-geared mage. That said... grindfests as a mage are never 'easy', so please don't anticipate jumping into those any time soon or you may be disappointed...
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Dec 10 2020, 11:11
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aznknightfire
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QUOTE(Chaisy @ Dec 10 2020, 02:14)  To erojh jioj, that was my question he was answering and its taken me 2 months to find all the gear to even get started, and now I'm still waiting to be able to soulfuse the majority of it, because its near impossible to find everything at a low enough level. Particularly the cotton robe/pants, I just gave up and bought a lvl 500 robe. Every once in a while I do the math on the number of soulfragments I have vs how many I need, which decreases every time I level up. When those two numbers intersect I'll finally be able to switch to mage.
Question about the proficiency formula to the experts... I wasn't expecting that. So your modified proficiency at level 500 for Holy/Dark is desired to be 1000? 1000-500 / 500 = 1. And for Elemental its 895 (895 -500 / 500 = .79) Am I reading that right? And that's just to do it on pfudor, you can safely level your proficiences on lower settings?
Unless I get a bigger bonus from my robe (which I can't equip yet) than I thought, I'm nowhere close to enough.
Yeah, I'm trying to weigh how much it costs vs. benefit on arena speed because I am not that rich. To get 7 pieces of decent gear in one element or dark seems quite a challenge, not to mention the credit investment. I have plenty of soul fragments, but I can see how that's a barrier and a time barrier. However, it seems like arenas can go 2-3x faster with mage depending on upgrades, but I'm sure that involves a lot of upgrades. I'm planning on keeping my 1H power set anyways, so we'll see. I may just chill for awhile and see how I feel later (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dec 10 2020, 18:01
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anarkofat
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i double posting how can delete =/
...Noni can.
and what is the best weapon for heavy armor and shield
Axe Club Rapier Shortsword Wakizashi
this item can exist? Peerless Savage Power (Armor) of Slaughter. and why not?
This post has been edited by anarkofat: Dec 10 2020, 18:23
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