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post Nov 15 2020, 04:59
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hi is it worth to salvage this item https://hentaiverse.org/equip/165616511/b18a7e9202
for completly forge this one https://hentaiverse.org/equip/229425478/127a85aa37
thanks
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post Nov 15 2020, 08:48
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What is a good start strategy for building equipment?
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post Nov 15 2020, 09:59
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QUOTE(midnightbluez @ Nov 15 2020, 07:48) *

What is a good start strategy for building equipment?

melee is easiest to get going at low level. 2h light works nicely, but after about lv200 1h heavy will outperform it.
For 1h you need a decent rapier, shortsword can work as well, and a high block shield, highest block you can afford. Then power armor of protection and warding. (or plate if you don't have powers)

Good strategy is to get income from daily arenas and RE, and then buy low level gear in the low-level auction. Sometimes there is good gear in shops as well, and even FreeSHop may have some decent stuff.

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post Nov 15 2020, 14:42
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QUOTE(lestion @ Nov 14 2020, 16:30) *

Visadio's is the correct answer. But it doesn't go quite that low - with gold star (not catgirl!), Assimilator 25 and 1 silver award, I get 0.004 per full grindfest at 599 prof. You would get almost double that!

This is why everyone underestimates how hard it is to get to 600 prof. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Ok, now that i know this i feel even less interest in arriving at the max, i tough i could reach the max prof in 5 years but this way i will never get to it.

I think this will ned another rework to not make it just stupidly impossible.
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post Nov 15 2020, 16:09
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QUOTE(Maharid @ Nov 15 2020, 12:42) *

Ok, now that i know this i feel even less interest in arriving at the max, i tough i could reach the max prof in 5 years but this way i will never get to it.

I think this will ned another rework to not make it just stupidly impossible.


I've hit 600 in 3 profs and I'm shortly to hit it in 2 more. sssss2 managed with even less exp modifiers than me (I have a silver award and I believe he finished divine last year before the new cookie). It can be done. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 15 2020, 22:00
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I don't have that kind of time, i normally give the game 25-30 minutes each day, it's the maximum, only in special occasion i do more (easter hunt, loot & harvest and maybe on xmas and august break).
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post Nov 15 2020, 22:04
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QUOTE(Maharid @ Nov 15 2020, 20:00) *

I don't have that kind of time, i normally give the game 25-30 minutes each day, it's the maximum, only in special occasion i do more (easter hunt, loot & harvest and maybe on xmas and august break).


That doesn't mean the game needs a rework for being stupidly impossible (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

It's meant to be a really really long grind almost nobody will actually achieve, anyway.
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post Nov 16 2020, 05:57
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My point is, if the level we get is 500 and after we don't get more experience the prof ratio need to be fixed at that point, having it decreasing like we go up with levels don't make any sense.

Or at least we need something that counterbalance it a bit.
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post Nov 16 2020, 08:35
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what is the imperial 1h style the wiki mentions?
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post Nov 16 2020, 09:24
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what is the imperial 1h style the wiki mentions?

when you have the ability 'better imperil', you can cast imperil on all monsters before attacking. When all monsters have 'imperil': attack them one after the other, until you win.

this is generally faster, in number of turns, than just attacking without imperil. However, it takes a bit more effort and concentration to cast imperil on all monsters first.

Imperil speeds up 1h with rapier, but even more so 1h with shortsword. In fact, shortsword can outperform rapier when you use imperil on all monsters. This is because bleeding wound, in combination with higher base damage, is effective in combination with imperil, and because penetrated armor, but with lower base damage, is a bit worse with imperil.
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post Nov 16 2020, 18:08
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 16 2020, 07:24) *

when you have the ability 'better imperil', you can cast imperil on all monsters before attacking. When all monsters have 'imperil': attack them one after the other, until you win.

this is generally faster, in number of turns, than just attacking without imperil. However, it takes a bit more effort and concentration to cast imperil on all monsters first.

Imperil speeds up 1h with rapier, but even more so 1h with shortsword. In fact, shortsword can outperform rapier when you use imperil on all monsters. This is because bleeding wound, in combination with higher base damage, is effective in combination with imperil, and because penetrated armor, but with lower base damage, is a bit worse with imperil.


Not quite - it's just because shortswords have slightly better stats than rapiers, and the penetrated armor debuff makes less difference when you're already 2-3 shotting a monster. Though at lower equip levels rapier will still pull away a little, and it seems like tests imply rapier's still better against schoolgirls due to their high health pool giving it more time to be effective.
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post Nov 17 2020, 02:29
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QUOTE(lestion @ Nov 16 2020, 17:08) *

Not quite - it's just because shortswords have slightly better stats than rapiers, and the penetrated armor debuff makes less difference when you're already 2-3 shotting a monster. Though at lower equip levels rapier will still pull away a little, and it seems like tests imply rapier's still better against schoolgirls due to their high health pool giving it more time to be effective.


However, good shortsword are generally easier to get by and less expensive.

At middle level like myself, you are quite probably (aka "necessarily (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ") using imperil anyway, too.

I personally tried the same 1H heavy build (with two "of Slaughter") both with Rapier (what I could find, definitely not a very good rapier) and a good enough shortsword; the shortsword gameplay is easily better and faster with shortsword in arenas at least.

To get the same kind of "playingness" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) from a rapier, I should probably buy a fairly expensive one.

Still, a choice. But in just a few levels more, I already have a Peerless shortsword awaiting me, so the rapier is not a good option for me still.

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post Nov 17 2020, 19:25
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Since when has Maharid been a catgirl? Anyway with catgirl status it shouldn't be impossible to reach 600 proficiency.

Out of curiosity, how many 600 proficiency physical warriors do we have?
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post Nov 17 2020, 19:42
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Nov 17 2020, 14:25) *

Out of curiosity, how many 600 proficiency physical warriors do we have?


Probably none. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Unfortunately, very few players still maintain this style after reaching level 500. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

To my knowledge, players who can reach maximum proficiency would be: decondelite, Uncle Stu, Eternal Light and Amiya. sssss2 could, too, but he no longer uses that style. And blackjac00 stopped playing a long time ago.

If Maharid managed to play all the arenas, every day, he would also succeed.
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post Nov 17 2020, 20:51
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Nov 17 2020, 17:42) *

If Maharid managed to play all the arenas, every day, he would also succeed.


I think you might be underestimating how much exp is required for it... if you played every arena every day, it would take you many, many years even with catgirl. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Nov 17 2020, 17:25) *

Since when has Maharid been a catgirl? Anyway with catgirl status it shouldn't be impossible to reach 600 proficiency.

Out of curiosity, how many 600 proficiency physical warriors do we have?


I know of 0. As usual, people have no idea how hard 600 prof is... Hell, I only know of about 5 mages who've explicitly claimed it, although I suspect about 5-10 more have achieved it quietly.

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post Nov 18 2020, 00:19
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QUOTE(lestion @ Nov 17 2020, 20:51) *

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I know of 0. As usual, people have no idea how hard 600 prof is... Hell....


More like Boredom
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post Nov 18 2020, 01:39
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I am Catgirl from 2017-09-23 18:12.

I play DWD each day and some beginner arena (3-4) for an extra chance on token drop.

Sometime i play DWD + Trio, much less i play the top 4 Arena (once a month at max).

I normally do 3-7 PFUDORFest each year.

The problem is time, i cannot play for near 2 hours, the time i need to finish the highest Grindfest, if i was a mage ok but without a connection good enough to have Hentai@Home running the only way i can get it is whit some impossibily lucky drop to get the right pieces or the right amunt of money.

Also i made myself a Peerlessp layer, i don't buy Legendary anymore, so i can get good equipment for 1H without savage but for mage i will only need the top tier equips, that are insenley costly.

With my 120M i can barely get 1 piece wihoptu the funding to upgrade it.

So i hope that one day 10B will awaken and say "hey, i need to do some rebalancing to make Meele worth it).

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Now, i have one of the Best Rapier in the game, a Peerless Arctic Rapier of Slaughter, it can be a good idea to find a Shortsword version of it?
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post Nov 18 2020, 19:24
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Has anyone investigated the distribution of low/mid/high-grade materials?
I tried to calculate the distribution based on the assumptions:
1 Chance of Low-Grade is 100% at zero level, and linearly falls to 0% at 750 level.
2 Chance of High-Grade is 0% at level 500, and increases linearly to level 1500.
3 Chance of Mid-Grade = 100% - Chance of Low-Grade - Chance of High-Grade.

I have 76 monsters in the lab mostly 531 levels, according to calculations distribution should be approximately 29,2/67,7/3,1 Low/Mid/High.
According to my log it comes out 24,9/71,6/3,5
It seems to be about the same, even taking into account that I have several monsters above level 531.

Excel file uploaded to mega.
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post Nov 20 2020, 08:00
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With the light of a new dawn, your experience in all things increases.

Is RE the best battle for the first battle after Dawn to take advantage of this?
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post Nov 20 2020, 08:12
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QUOTE(taro_ @ Nov 20 2020, 06:00) *

With the light of a new dawn, your experience in all things increases.

Is RE the best battle for the first battle after Dawn to take advantage of this?


Doesn't matter which battle you do, it's just added to whatever you do first.
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