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Oct 4 2020, 09:46
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hentailover6983
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For the Festival Coupons event going on right now, it's not a guarantee that completing all of the arenas and Ring of Blood battles will grant you any, correct? I ask this because I keep getting low-tier equipment for my arena bonuses.
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Oct 4 2020, 09:48
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Nezu
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Oct 4 2020, 08:46)  For the Festival Coupons event going on right now, it's not a guarantee that completing all of the arenas and Ring of Blood battles will grant you any, correct? I ask this because I keep getting low-tier equipment for my arena bonuses.
Correct. (Also, the equip clear bonus is separate to the token clear bonus as far as I know, and the festival coupon roll is a completely separate roll to either of them.)
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Oct 4 2020, 16:11
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Katajanmarja
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Perhaps Hentailover6983 meant that it would be logical to be able to have very bad luck with coupons as well, because he tends to have such bad luck with regular arena bonuses?
As for myself, I tried doing the very easy arenas on IWBTH or PFUDOR as often as possible once I felt confident enough. My main aim was to acquire better equipment, since I am a lot more interested in abilities and proficiency than in leveling up. All I ever got was averages (okay, maybe one or two superiors, not 100% sure), so I eventually gave up that habit. However, I was never sure whether I simply had bad luck and could have dropped a nice number of exquisites and magnificents with more patience.
Just recently, I had several Precursor Artifact drops in a very short time while playing more difficult arenas on normal (!), plus one coupon drop. That gave me more reason to believe that drop rolls are largely about sheer luck.
Any comments are welcome.
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Oct 4 2020, 16:53
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(Xythy @ Oct 3 2020, 19:42)  Until which PL is cheaper to use crystals instead of pills to maintain the morale of monsters?
I made a rough calculation of this, back when I started building my monster lab. It turned out the break-even point was around PL.300 give or take a 10% error (very rough calculation, indeed (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ) Note that this was without Extra Strength Formula perk, whose effect is equivalent to halving the pills' price. With the perk, that I got back then, it was around PL.240 EDIT: However, that was when pills' price was around 1500c each, instead of 700 or so. Price for xtal packs was also a bit higher, but much less so in percentage since it was around 24k/pack instead of nowadays usual 19k-20k. So nowadays, the break-even point is much lower; I'm not going to do the maths (which is not so simple as it seems at first sight), but it is quite reasonable to put it around PL.250 without the perk, and around PL.150 if you have it. This post has been edited by mundomuñeca: Oct 4 2020, 16:54
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Oct 4 2020, 16:56
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Oct 4 2020, 16:53)  I made a rough calculation of this,
And this calculation, did it also take into account that the higher the PL the slower the moral drain is?
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Oct 5 2020, 16:27
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 4 2020, 15:56)  And this calculation, did it also take into account that the higher the PL the slower the moral drain is?
Yes. However that effect starts from PL 250 only, and isn't very appreciable with PL lowers then 400. You need to reach PL around 600 for it to be roughly equivalent to the Pills Perk.
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Oct 5 2020, 19:27
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Katajanmarja
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What is the current etiquette when it comes to trading cheap items?
I would suppose that nobody is especially delighted receiving a mooglemail with 10 spirit potions, even if he or she is very interested in buying them. On the other hand, I believe somebody who is consuming lots of them just might feel a mooglemail with a single energy drink attached is worth the trouble; somebody else might not.
Is there a minimum amount of credits below which it is not good conduct to offer goods to those with WTB threads of their own? Do some rare items or equipment pieces form exceptions to this?
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Oct 5 2020, 19:37
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Katajanmarja @ Oct 5 2020, 18:27)  What is the current etiquette when it comes to trading cheap items?
I would suppose that nobody is especially delighted receiving a mooglemail with 10 spirit potions, even if he or she is very interested in buying them. On the other hand, I believe somebody who is consuming lots of them just might feel a mooglemail with a single energy drink attached is worth the trouble; somebody else might not.
Is there a minimum amount of credits below which it is not good conduct to offer goods to those with WTB threads of their own? Do some rare items or equipment pieces form exceptions to this?
When I'm buying things on WTB, it is a little disappointing to get a mail that only has a very low quantity in it, but I think it's a sort of beggars-can't-be-choosers case. I also think that while something might be a small amount to me, the payment might be considerable to a newer/very casual player. You could also use HVMarket for item trading. Many prices there are higher than what's offered in WTB, and they still sell regardless.
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Oct 5 2020, 19:54
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Katajanmarja
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QUOTE(lestion @ Oct 5 2020, 20:37)  while something might be a small amount to me, the payment might be considerable to a newer/very casual player.
Hardly would I be asking if this were not the case. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) There are days when just a few thousand credits of extra can help me to get the next training I’m aiming at. I just recently sold a small bundle of scrolls for 6,000 credits, then stopped and wondered whether the buyer would actually have been happier if I just bazaared those for pennies.
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Oct 5 2020, 20:13
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(Katajanmarja @ Oct 6 2020, 02:54)  Hardly would I be asking if this were not the case. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) There are days when just a few thousand credits of extra can help me to get the next training I’m aiming at. I just recently sold a small bundle of scrolls for 6,000 credits, then stopped and wondered whether the buyer would actually have been happier if I just bazaared those for pennies. As long as you don't spam people, it's fine.
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Oct 6 2020, 01:02
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Talisman1
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Is there a difference in the drop rates of grindfest vs item world? Magnificent IW seems to be a lot easier than legendary IW and the drops on grindfest(artifacts, scrolls, equip) seems to be better than IW, or is it just me? I checked wiki and it says drop rates are the same in IW and grindfest(aside from crystals), but if that's the case, why do mages spend gum/vase to complete the last 200 or so lvls of grindfest, even if you get a bonus, wouldn't it still be more expensive than just doing 800 rounds, flee and repeat?
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Oct 6 2020, 01:13
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Talisman1 @ Oct 6 2020, 00:02)  Is there a difference in the drop rates of grindfest vs item world? Magnificent IW seems to be a lot easier than legendary IW and the drops on grindfest(artifacts, scrolls, equip) seems to be better than IW, or is it just me? I checked wiki and it says drop rates are the same in IW and grindfest(aside from crystals), but if that's the case, why do mages spend gum/vase to complete the last 200 or so lvls of grindfest, even if you get a bonus, wouldn't it still be more expensive than just doing 800 rounds, flee and repeat?
Mages don't all need gum/vase to complete fest, that's just a crutch for people with poor sets or unconventional playstyles (like elemental non-imperil) to help finish it. These people usually aren't doing many fests, so it doesn't hurt too badly. If you were farming a lot, you would flee if necessary, but it's most efficient to do the full fest for crystal reasons - the bonus has to build up, capping at round 500, so you want as many rounds at 500 or above as possible to get the most crystals per stamina. (Also, grindfest costs 1 stamina to enter, so there's a tiny element of stamina efficiency involved also.)
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Oct 6 2020, 01:24
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Talisman1
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QUOTE(lestion @ Oct 6 2020, 01:13)  Mages don't all need gum/vase to complete fest, that's just a crutch for people with poor sets or unconventional playstyles (like elemental non-imperil) to help finish it. These people usually aren't doing many fests, so it doesn't hurt too badly. If you were farming a lot, you would flee if necessary, but it's most efficient to do the full fest for crystal reasons - the bonus has to build up, capping at round 500, so you want as many rounds at 500 or above as possible to get the most crystals per stamina. (Also, grindfest costs 1 stamina to enter, so there's a tiny element of stamina efficiency involved also.)
Even with the 1 stam cost upfront, I feel like its worth it overall if you have the time to do 300-500 minimum, the only downside being you can't do RE as often. I also read somewhere on this thread that higher grindfest equals more drops, and not just crystals. Maybe they are wrong.
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Oct 6 2020, 11:33
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Katajanmarja
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I have been wondering about the worths of trophies.
For instance, if I beat The Trio and the Tree one day on Nintendo difficulty, then another day on hard, I receive a sapling of Yggdrasil from both battles. Is there a difference between these saplings, because the latter was easier to obtain?
The wiki (Items: Trophies) states that a sapling will always produce minimum superior-level gear at the shrine. However, the article does not directly address my question of difficulty levels.
Will "easier" saplings produce mostly just superiors, while "harder" saplings are more likely to produce exquisites or even magnificents? My best bet is that there is no such difference, yet I’m not at all sure.
(For future reference: posted when my level was 218.)
This post has been edited by Katajanmarja: Oct 6 2020, 11:36
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Oct 6 2020, 11:58
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Katajanmarja @ Oct 6 2020, 11:33)  Is there a difference between these saplings, because the latter was easier to obtain?
No. A sapling is a sapling. There is no such thing as easy sapling or hard sapling, they are all the same and will do when shrined do the same roll to rng what you will get.
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Oct 6 2020, 12:42
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Talisman1 @ Oct 6 2020, 00:24)  Even with the 1 stam cost upfront, I feel like its worth it overall if you have the time to do 300-500 minimum, the only downside being you can't do RE as often. I also read somewhere on this thread that higher grindfest equals more drops, and not just crystals. Maybe they are wrong.
There is no evidencable reason to think that grindfest has different drop rates to IW at the present time. Having done an enormous amount of both, I'm pretty confident about this. Disregard gut feelings if there's neither Word of God as a source nor an enormous amount of data to assist (see sssss2's WTS post for some incredible datasets as an example of what I'm talking about). Admittedly if you're running an IW service, you're forced to drop the difficulty often for amnesia shard efficiency, and in that case you do get worse drops than simply running PFUDOR fests.
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Oct 7 2020, 07:20
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longhairdontcare
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I've asked people about this in other places, but is there a good/easy way to just change the keybinds, I don't like using monsterbation, and I just want to be able to use different keys for the keybinds that already exist in game.
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Oct 7 2020, 08:26
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Noni
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QUOTE(longhairdontcare @ Oct 7 2020, 07:20)  I've asked people about this in other places, but is there a good/easy way to just change the keybinds, I don't like using monsterbation, and I just want to be able to use different keys for the keybinds that already exist in game.
You want me too google that for you? There are tools that can re-map keys, I'm sure google will be able to point those out. However, make sure you don't use other battle scripts for HV than monsterbation. You may not like using monsterbation, but it is the only automation that we're sure of that it won't get you banned. I'm pretty sure you will dislike being banned even more than you dislike using monsterbation.
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Oct 7 2020, 14:14
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(longhairdontcare @ Oct 7 2020, 06:20)  I've asked people about this in other places, but is there a good/easy way to just change the keybinds, I don't like using monsterbation, and I just want to be able to use different keys for the keybinds that already exist in game.
No, there is no vanilla support for altering keybinds. QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 7 2020, 07:26)  There are tools that can re-map keys, I'm sure google will be able to point those out.
Unfortunately in some cases remapping like this isn't desirable because it overlaps with browser functions (for example the F keys).
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Oct 7 2020, 23:26
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longhairdontcare
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 7 2020, 02:26)  You want me too google that for you? There are tools that can re-map keys, I'm sure google will be able to point those out.
However, make sure you don't use other battle scripts for HV than monsterbation. You may not like using monsterbation, but it is the only automation that we're sure of that it won't get you banned. I'm pretty sure you will dislike being banned even more than you dislike using monsterbation.
Oh the thing I didn't like was the UI changes, and Automation. I just want a script that lets me change the keys, so I can use them. (things like F5 do stuff in my browser)
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