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post Sep 4 2020, 10:42
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How foolish/wasteful have I been forging my equipment? Or even using it to begin with?

I'm WAY overdue to try a different rapier, and I just swapped in the gauntlets.

It's only relatively recently that I stopped my quixotic quest to keep ALL my proficiency scores at maximum, and swapped away from Battlecaster and went to other power and a force shield. Even with the MAJOR improvement in clearing speed that's given me, I'm still completely unable to understand how people manage to clear all the arenas every day.

Additionally, through a major mistake, I ended up acquiring a large amount of Bindings of Slaughter, Barrier and Nimble at prices I'm unlikely to ever redeem, so I've been using them...

Feel free to be specific and detailed in your withering critique, especially if you can make it funny (but also accurate).

You should look for new equipment. Currently 1H and melee equipment and materials are extremely cheap. Assuming you have enough soul fragments, you can get a full slaughter set in the 30%~50% adb percentile range practically for free (50k~300k each) and probably a rapier of slaughter with over 70% adb as well.

The higher level you get, the slower you will get, so you must upgrade to full slaughter and start forging to keep up the same level of clear speed. You forged your nimble rapier backwards. Since it's not slaughter, most players would not bother forging its adb, and would instead forge only parry.

Many players even decline to forge adb and forge only parry on a slaughter rapiers, if funds are limited and they don't intend to stick with that weapon forever. My own rapier in signature was forged in such a manner by the previous owner when I acquired it, and it's a top class rapier (lessened slightly by its item world, but still very strong).

I realize you basically had a free stash of bindings of slaughter and such, but you've still wasted them somewhat. It won't be a big deal though because you can salvage to get most of your bindings back.

The game version may have changed since you last played. The proficiency system was totally revamped, though you may not have noticed because it still looks the same. Just the way you earn proficiency changed. You can no longer max your proficiencies in all styles anyway. Playing one style more often will get your more proficiency in that style, but will sacrifice proficiency in other styles, and this cannot be made up (until after you reach level 500).
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post Sep 4 2020, 11:32
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What's the current meta with regards to 1-H weapons
Is it still slaughter rapiers for everything, or are swords and clubs good now?
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post Sep 4 2020, 11:41
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QUOTE(Gahasa @ Sep 4 2020, 11:32) *

What's the current meta with regards to 1-H weapons
Is it still slaughter rapiers for everything, or are swords and clubs good now?

Some people use shortswords, but clubs are still useless.
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post Sep 4 2020, 12:37
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Thanks. Guess I'll be on the look out for a good shortsword too
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post Sep 4 2020, 23:23
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Regarding using amnesia shards on weapons and armor to then redo the IW, is it generally seen where the redoes provide better upgrades to the gear?

I did this with my rapier and ended up getting LV. 5 fatality when I never got the first go-around.
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post Sep 4 2020, 23:41
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Sep 4 2020, 22:23) *

Regarding using amnesia shards on weapons and armor to then redo the IW, is it generally seen where the redoes provide better upgrades to the gear?

I did this with my rapier and ended up getting LV. 5 fatality when I never got the first go-around.


It's random every time.
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post Sep 6 2020, 05:14
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Regarding a few hath perks
Does Resplendent Regeneration apply to the skill regeneration? Or is it just a waste of hath?
Also does Tokenizer only apply to RE?
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post Sep 6 2020, 05:19
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QUOTE(Hakrei @ Sep 6 2020, 04:14) *

Regarding a few hath perks
Does Resplendent Regeneration apply to the skill regeneration? Or is it just a waste of hath?
Also does Tokenizer only apply to RE?


No, Resplendent Regeneration applies to your natural regeneration. It's pretty good, it's definitely not a waste, unless you only play REs and short arenas. It's also really cheap for the benefit it gives.

Tokenizer applies to all monster drops.
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post Sep 6 2020, 05:28
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QUOTE(Hakrei @ Sep 6 2020, 12:14) *

Regarding a few hath perks
Does Resplendent Regeneration apply to the skill regeneration? Or is it just a waste of hath?

1. It's not.
2. Waste or not is a question that depends on each player condition. (i.e just like GS' bonus regeneration some people might or might not find it helping their play - or even notice that it exist). It's like whether consuming health draught would help or not, some find it helping them in a long run, some find it just a distraction which just decrease their t/s and net a mere decrease in one heal or two.

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Also does Tokenizer only apply to RE?

why should it? there are token drop from arena and GF too.
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post Sep 6 2020, 05:52
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QUOTE(lestion @ Sep 5 2020, 19:19) *

No, Resplendent Regeneration applies to your natural regeneration. It's pretty good, it's definitely not a waste, unless you only play REs and short arenas. It's also really cheap for the benefit it gives.

Thanks, was hovering on whether to get it or not. Since I play the from Trio to DWD, I'm guessing the benefits will help.

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2. Waste or not is a question that depends on each player condition. (i.e just like GS' bonus regeneration some people might or might not find it helping their play - or even notice that it exist). It's like whether consuming health draught would help or not, some find it helping them in a long run, some find it just a distraction which just decrease their t/s and net a mere decrease in one heal or two.

My wording might've been wrong here.
I meant if the hath perk made a noticeable difference in combat because back when health, mana and spirit didn't reset, the hath perk would've been useful to get back to full vitals quicker without expending health, mana and spirit pots.

QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Sep 5 2020, 19:28) *

why should it? there are token drop from arena and GF too.

The Tokenizer was listed as (X) the chance of random mob token drops.
Since it had random mob in the description I assumed it meant RE



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post Sep 6 2020, 08:34
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I meant if the hath perk made a noticeable difference in combat because back when health, mana and spirit didn't reset, the hath perk would've been useful to get back to full vitals quicker without expending health, mana and spirit pots.

That's exactly what I meant. the "noticeable" part might differ from person to person. It is there, it help, but noticeable is entirely different matter.
For example, I notice that the GS extra regen help from playing the PFIW (need to drink potion/elixir later than usual), but as arena is a walk in the park already I didn't find any noticeable difference before and after getting it.
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post Sep 6 2020, 16:20
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QUOTE(Hakrei @ Sep 6 2020, 04:52) *

The Tokenizer was listed as (X) the chance of random mob token drops.
Since it had random mob in the description I assumed it meant RE


The adjective "random" here refers to the token drops, not the mob.

I.e., the rephrased description should be "chance of random drop of tokens from mobs".

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post Sep 8 2020, 04:20
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So I'm at about 8k+ turncount for PFUDORfest clears.

My effective Proficiency is only 989, so I'm 11 points off for obtaining 1.0 Proficiency Factor.

Besides Assimilator, are there any other wys of making the Prof go up faster?
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post Sep 8 2020, 04:42
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QUOTE(needaname @ Sep 8 2020, 04:20) *

Besides Assimilator, are there any other wys of making the Prof go up faster?
Well prof is calculated from xp gain, so every way to increase your xp gain would help you get more prof.
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post Sep 9 2020, 03:11
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How do you guys even manage PUFDOR? I'm doing the wiki recommended heavy armor/block/parry suitability oriented build and go into a PUFDOR First Blood arena and proceed to get shrecked by the first mob. Is there some kind of secret sauce to this or am I just a scrub forever relegated to the realms of nintendo kiddies?
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post Sep 9 2020, 04:07
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QUOTE(chahahc @ Sep 9 2020, 02:11) *

How do you guys even manage PUFDOR? I'm doing the wiki recommended heavy armor/block/parry suitability oriented build and go into a PUFDOR First Blood arena and proceed to get shrecked by the first mob. Is there some kind of secret sauce to this or am I just a scrub forever relegated to the realms of nintendo kiddies?


You're just low level. Survival gets a lot easier later on - especially for heavy-armor players. It is hard to reach a good amount of block/parry at low level, so heavy is a little weaker than light armor (which has speed, evade, parry and still has access to block) until you're wearing legendary armor. Once you get access to a good weapon/shield combo, and you start forging things, it gets a ton easier.
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post Sep 9 2020, 04:49
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Hi experts,

I found "something wrong" with soul fusing just now.

By the formula in EH wiki it should cost 500+(500-416)*10=1340 soul fragments when I try to soul fuse my level 500 legendary gloves, but in the game it shows 1339 instead.

I tried another level 499 equipment, it shows 1330 which is "right".

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Is there some special rules in soul fusing level 500 equipments or I have just met a mistake? Should it be mentioned in EH wiki or somewhere else?

Thank you for your help in advance. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 9 2020, 05:07
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QUOTE(Bolide @ Sep 9 2020, 03:49) *

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I found "something wrong" with soul fusing just now.
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I think that's just a rounding error as a side-effect of how it's calculated internally.
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post Sep 9 2020, 06:45
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Whatever the reason I think it's an interesting bug, thanks for mentioning it.

So some inane questions: Could that only have happened with a level 500 equipment (as Bolide hypothesized)? I'm guessing not. Would that same thing have happened if Bolide didn't have a weird number of soul fragments in storage, ending in 1? It's probably unrelated, but who knows. Finally, if he actually soulfused it would he really lose 1339 soul fragments as reported? Haha.
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post Sep 9 2020, 12:42
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 9 2020, 05:45) *

Whatever the reason I think it's an interesting bug, thanks for mentioning it.

So some inane questions: Could that only have happened with a level 500 equipment (as Bolide hypothesized)? I'm guessing not. Would that same thing have happened if Bolide didn't have a weird number of soul fragments in storage, ending in 1? It's probably unrelated, but who knows. Finally, if he actually soulfused it would he really lose 1339 soul fragments as reported? Haha.


If it will cost him 1340-1339 = 1 soulfrag I WANNA KNOW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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