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post Jul 25 2020, 12:53
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Afaik the only think you did miss is spending all your credits into training, dont feel a real difference in your income, and of course the follow up feeling of wasting your credits.
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post Jul 25 2020, 13:06
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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) well, i think i feel the difference, but no idea is it from training or from leveling up and switch to PFUDOR on all arenas.
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post Jul 25 2020, 13:09
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I am pretty sure it is from PFUDOR. I still remember quite good how small the difference actually is when you spend all your credits for a while and it is pretty small. I mean credit drops are only affected by difficulty, not by any training.
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post Jul 26 2020, 08:22
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As a 1H heavy armor player, should I do a simple IW on my shield or there are some potencies worth reforging for given shields only have mitigation potencies?
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post Jul 26 2020, 09:52
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QUOTE(Ubershank @ Jul 21 2020, 18:01) *

If you ever want to go back to dw, then seperate personas. If you don't want to spend time (10 points a day) changing your attributes, then also a seperate persona.

iirc there was a small routine to run for that...

QUOTE(Ubershank @ Jul 21 2020, 18:01) *

The attributes and abilities between the playstyles differ enough that doing it on the same persona is more hassle than it's worth.

actually all melee styles can run with the same PAB distribution (STR = DEX = AGI = END = WIS >> INT) just fine. if an optimum exists, it's probably so close to this that doing it the brainless way is way better

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As a 1H heavy armor player, should I do a simple IW on my shield or there are some potencies worth reforging for given shields only have mitigation potencies?

if you can earn holy/fire/dark, all the better - but don't sweat it too much. just take whatever comes, especially if not an ultimate tier one.
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post Jul 26 2020, 12:02
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Besides holy/fire/dark being considered a little better, it's best to balance out each type of mitigation somewhat. So unless it's your final ultimate piece of an ultimate set you've decided upon, you can take any element that comes and build around it later.

Aside from that, 2 potency (any element 5 + any element 5) is more efficient than 3 potency, so that is another possibility to aim for. You'll have a little more combined resistance in the end from 2 potency equipments.
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post Jul 26 2020, 19:29
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Is there a rule of thumb for deciding to bazaar vs. salvage your equipment that isn't worth selling?
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post Jul 26 2020, 19:33
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Is there a rule of thumb for deciding to bazaar vs. salvage your equipment that isn't worth selling?
When you get something out of it that is worth more of course.
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post Jul 26 2020, 19:47
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Jul 26 2020, 19:29) *

Is there a rule of thumb for deciding to bazaar vs. salvage your equipment that isn't worth selling?

Not really. If you know a bit about mage gear, you know which clothes to keep and which to salvage. If you don't, let HV utils take care of that decision and ask advice on what is left over after the script is done.
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post Jul 27 2020, 18:04
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I just created a new persona .The problem is its a copy of the first one. bug or normal?
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post Jul 27 2020, 18:13
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QUOTE(macelino @ Jul 27 2020, 17:04) *

I just created a new persona .The problem is its a copy of the first one. bug or normal?

you can create new (blank) or clone them, did you click the clone option by mistake?

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post Jul 27 2020, 22:26
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Hello, I play 2H with light armor, which potencies would you recommend to go for on a weapon? At the very least which one would be the most important to get? Same for armor.

Also is there a problem if later on I decide to go full Shade? Or is there some sort of mix which is better like the mages going 4+1, etc.?
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post Jul 27 2020, 22:46
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QUOTE(Pretty anon @ Jul 27 2020, 22:26) *

Hello, I play 2H with light armor, which potencies would you recommend to go for on a weapon? At the very least which one would be the most important to get? Same for armor.

Also is there a problem if later on I decide to go full Shade? Or is there some sort of mix which is better like the mages going 4+1, etc.?

Hm, i would say Overpower and Butcher would be the way to go. And no, there is no point in using leather when you can use shade instead. Mage is the only style that actually is actually played with a mixed set on purpose.
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post Jul 28 2020, 05:21
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 27 2020, 15:46) *

Hm, i would say Overpower and Butcher would be the way to go. And no, there is no point in using leather when you can use shade instead. Mage is the only style that actually is actually played with a mixed set on purpose.


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post Jul 28 2020, 06:32
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Are the innate arcana slots worth purchasing and if so which spells should I be putting on them? I bought the first slot to try out a while back and it seemed like I was wasting more mana with it on then manually just casting spells myself due to being able to trigger channeling at times to save hundreds of mp.

I play a very outdated 2H mace build that consists of just mashing attack, praying for stun and turning on spirit stance whenever possible. I thought that if I bought all 5 slots I wouldn't have to pay attention to buffs running out and recasting them but I wonder if it'll cause me to use more MP in the long run.

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post Jul 28 2020, 07:44
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QUOTE(Amalyne @ Jul 28 2020, 06:32) *

Are the innate arcana slots worth purchasing
Yes.
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and if so which spells should I be putting on them?
One you usually use yourself.
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I bought the first slot to try out a while back and it seemed like I was wasting more mana with it on then manually just casting spells myself due to being able to trigger channeling at times to save hundreds of mp.
Well, only IA I and with low support prof, the effect is of course small. And it does feel like you loose MP because of the upkeep, that reduces of course your MP gain per tick. But overall that is still less as you would have to use if you would cast with it channeling. And of course a 100% reduction of the MP cost with channeling is more effective as the 10% you save with IA I. That really should supprise you, so i dont know why it looks like it does. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) But of course the effect of using autocastslots does increase with the level IA and the number of support prof you have. With my mage set i have even with all five slots used only a Upkeep of 1.55 MP per round.
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I play a very outdated 2H mace build that consists of just mashing attack, praying for stun and turning on spirit stance whenever possible. I thought that if I bought all 5 slots I wouldn't have to pay attention to buffs running out and recasting them but I wonder if it'll cause me to use more MP in the long run.
No, in the end you are just hoping for stun, because that is the only reason why you still use the mace or play 2H i assume and 2H isnt really a spirit stance friendy style. Activate and mostly forget about it until the end of the battle is only a thing for 1H. And no, you can just get IA V and forget about casting any support spells, because you may not have noticed by now, but you cant set Regen or Heartseeker into a autocast slot. So no matter what, you would still have to cast them.
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post Jul 28 2020, 12:48
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Posting it to check if im getting all this right:

Income structure without donations, daily:
all the numbers and percentages for level ~360, all arenas + FSM, occasionally TT&T, 1-2 IW, GF for now is out of picture

1. ~35% Trophies from arenas and RoB. More or less constant, level and training independent, RoB could be affected by playing more IWs -> more tokens. ~150k
2. ~15% Consumables, including ED, sold to WTB and Market. Affected by difficulty, Scavenger, Luck, Archeologist. ~80k
3. ~ 50% Credit drops (affected only by difficulty) + Bazaar, 10-30% of credit drops ->5-15% overall (difficulty, Scavenger, Luck, Quartermaster) ~200-250k
4. 0-1% Monsters (23)
5. 0% Nothing auctions worthy for now.

After my own consumption, nets around 400k daily.
So, training basically affected only 20-30% of income, and even at max could add ~20% with this game scheme (arenas +RoB).
For more I need to play GF. Or donate.
And grow monsters.
Right or do i miss something?
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post Jul 28 2020, 13:12
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QUOTE(dibdib @ Jul 28 2020, 11:48) *

Posting it to check if im getting all this right:

Income structure without donations, daily:
all the numbers and percentages for level ~360, all arenas + FSM, occasionally TT&T, 1-2 IW, GF for now is out of picture

1. ~35% Trophies from arenas and RoB. More or less constant, level and training independent, RoB could be affected by playing more IWs -> more tokens. ~150k
2. ~15% Consumables, including ED, sold to WTB and Market. Affected by difficulty, Scavenger, Luck, Archeologist. ~80k
3. ~ 50% Credit drops (affected only by difficulty) + Bazaar, 10-30% of credit drops ->5-15% overall (difficulty, Scavenger, Luck, Quartermaster) ~200-250k
4. 0-1% Monsters (23)
5. 0% Nothing auctions worthy for now.

After my own consumption, nets around 400k daily.
So, training basically affected only 20-30% of income, and even at max could add ~20% with this game scheme (arenas +RoB).
For more I need to play GF. Or donate.
And grow monsters.
Right or do i miss something?


Looks about right, yes.

There are three things you can do after arenas, depending on how much you want to play:

- Play grindfest, and sell the crystal packs. This is great if you have all crystal perks unlocked.
- Run an IW service. This isn't quite as good as grindfest with crystarium, but it can be a little better if you don't have the perks (at 7-9c/pxp). You will need to be sure you can play a lot if you want to do this, because customers will be waiting for you.
- Play grindfest, and use crystals on your own monsters. The pay-off is very very slow (about 4 years to break even, before you start making a profit, and it will get worse because more players upgrade their monsters). Monster lab is mostly for vanity.

Yes, you can also donate (though it isn't much daily), sell stars to other players, or run H@H if you have a good connection. This game is ruled by real money or very, very hard work.

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post Jul 28 2020, 13:52
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QUOTE(lestion @ Jul 28 2020, 14:12) *


- Play grindfest, and sell the crystal packs. This is great if you have all crystal perks unlocked.

- Play grindfest, and use crystals on your own monsters. The pay-off is very very slow (about 4 years to break even, before you start making a profit, and it will get worse because more players upgrade their monsters). Monster lab is mostly for vanity.

Thank you!
But, the pay-off of crystal perks probably also very slow?

And, could someone give a rough comparison of PFUDOR arenas vs single GF run on Hell/IWBTH? Like 10%, 30%, so on?
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post Jul 28 2020, 14:05
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QUOTE(dibdib @ Jul 28 2020, 13:52) *

And, could someone give a rough comparison of PFUDOR arenas vs single GF run on Hell/IWBTH? Like 10%, 30%, so on?
No idea what you mean with 10% 30%. but this is a hell fest.
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I could also show you PFest and NFest, but seems like i dont have any IFest in my archive which is weird.
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