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Jul 5 2020, 11:35
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 5 2020, 09:08)  I don't have any Innate Arcana slots and I wasn't using Imperil. Yes I was using monsterbation when I saw this. But I wasn't pressing Ctrl, I was just moving my mouse back and forth over the monsters. Also, does anyone know why the going prices for Precursor Artifacts have gone down from 22k to 18k recently?
Also why did the credit:GP conversion rate go from 275:1000 to 400:1000?
You probably have faced unwanted actions performed by the default mouseover/keybinds of Monsterbation. Regarding PAs, it's because the market of Energy Drinks is going down and because everyone keep larger and larger stacks of Easter artifacts every year. Regarding GP: more and more players sink large amounts in lotteries, and there have been quite big amount of God-tier items in the lotteries over the past few months.
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Jul 5 2020, 14:52
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Nezu
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QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 5 2020, 10:08)  Also, does anyone know why the going prices for Precursor Artifacts have gone down from 22k to 18k recently?
Also why did the credit:GP conversion rate go from 275:1000 to 400:1000?
PAs going down because they haven't been 22k for a pretty long time - you've just been looking mostly in shops, I think... There are fewer players buying them these days. This has been a downwards trend for multiple years. credit:GP rate was such because during the EHpocalypse last year, a significant amount of GP was dumped into the system as a charitable contribution by certain big uploaders and H@Hers to allow many panicking people to archive their favourites (along with many free giveaways). As a result, GP prices crashed - but this wasn't representative of their long-term demand (mostly for galleries use, but yes, we've had some good lotteries this year and many players participate in these with purchased-GP).
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Jul 6 2020, 00:06
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lolgay6
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QUOTE(Ubershank @ Jul 5 2020, 02:59)  The only thing I'm aware of that would be depleting your mana are spells you may have in Innate Arcana slots. Something else, would if you are imperilling but not realising that's as spell and not a skill. Either way, your log next you do one should hopefully bring some light on it
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 5 2020, 04:06)  Another possibility came to mind, do you use monsterbation? Because if you do and press lets say Ctrl instead of normal attacks that wont cost MP, you would cast holy spells that would cost a shit-ton of MP.
QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 5 2020, 12:35)  You probably have faced unwanted actions performed by the default mouseover/keybinds of Monsterbation. Regarding PAs, it's because the market of Energy Drinks is going down and because everyone keep larger and larger stacks of Easter artifacts every year. Regarding GP: more and more players sink large amounts in lotteries, and there have been quite big amount of God-tier items in the lotteries over the past few months.
So it turns out Uncle Stu was right, except I wasn't pressing Ctrl and Monsterbation was still autocasting Smite. Here are the logs: QUOTE The effect Breached Defense on Doctor Hu has expired. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 438 points of health. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 438 points of health. I Do Not Fear Fire casts Wind, and hits you for 2337 wind damage Doctor Hu hits you for 136 elec damage. Smite hits I Do Not Fear Fire for 292 holy damage You cast Smite. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 438 points of health. I Do Not Fear Fire hits you for 117 fire damage. Doctor Hu hits you for 129 elec damage. Smite hits I Do Not Fear Fire for 135 holy damage (50% resisted) You cast Smite. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 438 points of health. I Do Not Fear Fire hits you for 118 fire damage. Doctor Hu hits you for 133 elec damage. I Do Not Fear Fire misses the attack against you. Smite hits I Do Not Fear Fire for 290 holy damage You cast Smite. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 438 points of health. Doctor Hu casts Lightning Blast, and crits you for 802 elec damage (50% resisted) I Do Not Fear Fire hits you for 116 fire damage. Smite hits Doctor Hu for 260 holy damage You cast Smite. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 438 points of health. Doctor Hu hits you for 121 elec damage. I Do Not Fear Fire hits you for 116 fire damage. Doctor Hu gains the effect Breached Defense. Smite hits Doctor Hu for 298 holy damage You cast Smite. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 438 points of health. Doctor Hu crits you for 162 elec damage. I Do Not Fear Fire hits you for 124 fire damage. Doctor Hu hits you for 130 elec damage. Smite hits I Do Not Fear Fire for 347 holy damage You cast Smite. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 438 points of health. I Do Not Fear Fire hits you for 119 fire damage. Doctor Hu crits you for 140 elec damage. No More Leather has been defeated. Smite hits No More Leather for 345 holy damage Smite hits Doctor Hu for 332 holy damage You cast Smite. The effect Shadow Veil has expired. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 438 points of health. I Do Not Fear Fire hits you for 132 fire damage. No More Leather casts 222, and crits you for 1234 cold damage You evade the attack from Doctor Hu. You parry the attack from I Do Not Fear Fire. Smite hits I Do Not Fear Fire for 240 holy damage You cast Smite. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 438 points of health. You evade the attack from No More Leather. Doctor Hu casts Lightning Blast, and hits you for 1309 elec damage I Do Not Fear Fire hits you for 138 fire damage. Smite hits No More Leather for 357 holy damage Smite hits Doctor Hu for 187 holy damage (50% resisted) You cast Smite. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 271 points of health. You evade the attack from No More Leather. Doctor Hu hits you for 131 elec damage. I Do Not Fear Fire crits you for 140 fire damage. Your spell fails to connect. Doctor Hu gains the effect Breached Defense. Smite hits Doctor Hu for 325 holy damage You cast Smite. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 423 points of health. No More Leather hits you for 105 cold damage. Doctor Hu crits you for 161 elec damage. I Do Not Fear Fire misses the attack against you. Lock And Load Lolita has been defeated. Void Strike hits Lock And Load Lolita for 715 void damage. You hit I Do Not Fear Fire for 1066 void damage. You hit Doctor Hu for 1213 void damage. You hit No More Leather for 1282 void damage. You hit Lock And Load Lolita for 1218 void damage. Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 438 points of health. Lock And Load Lolita uses Fragmenting Cherry Pits, and crits you for 365 piercing damage No More Leather hits you for 107 cold damage. Doctor Hu hits you for 122 elec damage. You parry the attack from I Do Not Fear Fire. Void Strike hits Doctor Hu for 639 void damage. You hit Doctor Hu for 1072 void damage. Spirit Stance Exhausted Replenishment restores 5 points of magic. Regen restores 284 points of health. You evade the attack from Lock And Load Lolita. No More Leather hits you for 93 cold damage. You evade the attack from Doctor Hu. You evade the attack from I Do Not Fear Fire.
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Jul 6 2020, 00:14
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 00:06)  So it turns out Uncle Stu was right, except I wasn't pressing Ctrl and Monsterbation was still autocasting Smite. Here are the logs:
Well, i was quite sure it had to be something like that. But you must do something for it do to that, it doesnt just start casting spells for the fun of it.
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Jul 6 2020, 01:26
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lolgay6
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 6 2020, 01:14)  Well, i was quite sure it had to be something like that. But you must do something for it do to that, it doesnt just start casting spells for the fun of it.
I don't have smite in my skills bar, and I wasn't pressing Ctrl either...so I don't know what triggered it. Seems to happen randomly. Also, does item-worlding an equipment double the damage from it? I spent a whole day item-worlding this Superior Katana to level 10: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/243033836/9b0010cfdbBut I don't feel like I clear monsters twice as fast now when compared to before... The wiki says it does the "void strike" in addition to the normal damage so I assumed it would double my total DPS since according to the wiki it now hits twice per turn rather than once...what does it actually mean? This post has been edited by lolgay6: Jul 6 2020, 01:27
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Jul 6 2020, 01:39
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 01:26)  I don't have smite in my skills bar, and I wasn't pressing Ctrl either...so I don't know what triggered it. Seems to happen randomly.
Yeah, i highly doubt that it does randomly happens. QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 01:26)  Also, does item-worlding an equipment double the damage from it?
No, it doesnt. QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 01:26)  The wiki says it does the "void strike" in addition to the normal damage so I assumed it would double my total DPS since according to the wiki it now hits twice per turn rather than once...what does it actually mean?
That doesnt mean double the damage. Here i show you how a regular attack does look with my IWed holy rapier. Void Strike hits Revue Bananice for 5016 void damage. Holy Strike hits Revue Bananice for 1818 holy damage. You hit Revue Bananice for 9678 void damage. On top you see the two strikes it has, one with holy damage from be a holy weapon and the other is the void strike from be Hollowforged and below is the normal attack with also void damage, because it is hollowforged. As you can see even both strikes together dont deal as much damage as the normal attack. 6834 damage to 9678. This gets even worse when your attack is a crit. Void Strike hits In Memorabilia Of Darksage H3 for 12677 void damage. Holy Strike hits In Memorabilia Of Darksage H3 for 10142 holy damage. You crit In Memorabilia Of Darksage H3 for 46961 void damage. 22819 to 46961 damage. Sure get the void strike from hollowforged or an additional elemental strike if the weapon is ethereal is nice, but it doesnt mean double the damage. Not even if you would also get Butcher 5, would IW double the damage from what it was before.
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Jul 6 2020, 01:58
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lolgay6
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 6 2020, 02:39)  Yeah, i highly doubt that it does randomly happens. No, it doesnt. That doesnt mean double the damage. Here i show you how a regular attack does look with my IWed holy rapier.
Void Strike hits Revue Bananice for 5016 void damage. Holy Strike hits Revue Bananice for 1818 holy damage. You hit Revue Bananice for 9678 void damage.
On top you see the two strikes it has, one with holy damage from be a holy weapon and the other is the void strike from be Hollowforged and below is the normal attack with also void damage, because it is hollowforged. As you can see even both strikes together dont deal as much damage as the normal attack. 6834 damage to 9678. This gets even worse when your attack is a crit.
Void Strike hits In Memorabilia Of Darksage H3 for 12677 void damage. Holy Strike hits In Memorabilia Of Darksage H3 for 10142 holy damage. You crit In Memorabilia Of Darksage H3 for 46961 void damage.
22819 to 46961 damage. Sure get the void strike from hollowforged or an additional elemental strike if the weapon is ethereal is nice, but it doesnt mean double the damage. Not even if you would also get Butcher 5, would IW double the damage from what it was before.
Oh, so item-worlding only increases equipment damage by about 50%? What about the splash damage? I think that counts for a lot of the clear speed from my 2H katana. But changing the damage type from physical to Void should also increase the damage by a lot, right? Also, what should I do with my Exquisite equipment (level 150-177) like these: Exquisite Axe of Slaughter: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/243043459/738efd0a59Exquisite Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Surtr: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/243303720/31724282e8Exquisite Cotton Robe of The Demon-Field: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/243318048/e231963e8dExquisite Phase Robe of Surtr: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/243316062/cb9bcc39b1Exquisite Mithril Plate Sabatons of Deflection: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/243087460/8f25bb7cdaSelling them at bazaar would only get me about 6k credits. But would anyone pay any credits for them? All the stuff I see in WTS are legendary... This post has been edited by lolgay6: Jul 6 2020, 01:59
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Jul 6 2020, 02:18
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 01:58)  Oh, so item-worlding only increases equipment damage by about 50%?
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Where in my post did you read that? QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 01:58)  What about the splash damage? I think that counts for a lot of the clear speed from my 2H katana. But changing the damage type from physical to Void should also increase the damage by a lot, right?
You mean Domino Strike? Nah, change the damage type of your regular attack from slash to void isnt that much of a big deal. I mean you chance for domino strike should still be quite low and the damage of the additional monster getting hit is nerved compared to the regular attack anyway. QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 01:58)  Also, what should I do with my Exquisite equipment (level 150-177) like these:
Hm, after a short look at what they are i would suggest bazaar them. None of them is any good. QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 01:58)  Selling them at bazaar would only get me about 6k credits. But would anyone pay any credits for them? All the stuff I see in WTS are legendary...
6k is 6k. And i sure hope not someone would pay for those. I mean besides of be exq axes are bad 1H weapons and the staff is missmatched, and even a peerl plate armor would hardly find a buyer who isnt a collector and everyone who wants to play as mage with exq equipment does deserve the misery that will actually bring him.
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Jul 6 2020, 02:29
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lolgay6
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 6 2020, 03:18)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Where in my post did you read that? You mean Domino Strike? Nah, change the damage type of your regular attack from slash to void isnt that much of a big deal. I mean you chance for domino strike should still be quite low and the damage of the additional monster getting hit is nerved compared to the regular attack anyway. Hm, after a short look at what they are i would suggest bazaar them. None of them is any good. 6k is 6k. And i sure hope not someone would pay for those. I mean besides of be exq axes are bad 1H weapons and the staff is missmatched, and even a peerl plate armor would hardly find a buyer who isnt a collector and everyone who wants to play as mage with exq equipment does deserve the misery that will actually bring him. I have 70% chance for domino strike with my current Superior Katana, is that low or high? I have 204 points in 2H proficiency... If the axe is bad because its an axe, then how about this level 162 Exquisite Katana of Slaughter? https://hentaiverse.org/equip/243077918/cd6db9cd02This post has been edited by lolgay6: Jul 6 2020, 02:29
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Jul 6 2020, 02:47
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 02:29)  If the axe is bad because its an axe, then how about this level 162 Exquisite Katana of Slaughter?
Just check the last auction and take a look at the 2H weapons section. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=239601Imo, that should answer your question.
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Jul 6 2020, 03:08
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lolgay6
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 6 2020, 03:47)  Just check the last auction and take a look at the 2H weapons section. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=239601Imo, that should answer your question. That auction only has very high level (near level 500) items...but I see that people like The Evil are still buying low level (less than 200) Exquisites, albeit only with special prefixes. I'll post my katana on the price check thread and see what people say.
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Jul 6 2020, 03:10
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And you didnt notice that there where only two 2H weapon in that auction and only one of them got even a 50k min bid? Fine, let the people in the price check tell.
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Jul 6 2020, 13:19
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Nezu
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QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 10:41)  I spent 10k buying this Average Kite Shield from the bazaar: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/242928798/1a7d80a097 Good purchase or not? Should I salvage it? Would be a waste of 10k credits... On the other hand I got this Superior Kite Shield from a drop, which has better stats: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/243091063/602766b356Just use the one with better stats? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) You should sell that average - yes, it's a slight waste of 10k credits, but hey, if you got a better one no point holding onto it... unless it has sentimental value to you, I guess. edit: also, re: void strike stuff earlier - the wiki may have misled you a bit due to poor wording (I will fix this at some point). IW10 converts the damage type from piercing/slashing/crushing to void, and monsters all have 0 resistance to void. It also adds 'void strike' - which is a sort of elemental strike - that adds an extra effect to your attacks, dealing a little extra damage. Ethereal weapons, at level 10, will get a random elemental strike instead of void (because they have void naturally). This post has been edited by lestion: Jul 6 2020, 13:29
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Jul 6 2020, 14:04
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lolgay6
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QUOTE(lestion @ Jul 6 2020, 14:19)  Just use the one with better stats? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) You should sell that average - yes, it's a slight waste of 10k credits, but hey, if you got a better one no point holding onto it... unless it has sentimental value to you, I guess. edit: also, re: void strike stuff earlier - the wiki may have misled you a bit due to poor wording (I will fix this at some point). IW10 converts the damage type from piercing/slashing/crushing to void, and monsters all have 0 resistance to void. It also adds 'void strike' - which is a sort of elemental strike - that adds an extra effect to your attacks, dealing a little extra damage. Ethereal weapons, at level 10, will get a random elemental strike instead of void (because they have void naturally). I salvaged it since I invested a bunch of low-grade wood in it. If I had sold it I would have only got 250 credits (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I don't understand how the bazaar thought it was reasonable to sell an Average grade item for 10k credits... Does the Void Strike proc the Domino strike? If so that would increase the DPS by a lot. Otherwise it would be really meh... Converting to void damage only boosts DPS by up to 25% against the monsters I can see...And the extra Void Strike is only an additional 50% against the monster that I'm hitting directly, so probably not even 20% of my total DPS. All added together it would be only 30-50% extra damage? Still respectable but... I just got my first Superior Force Shield drop...it seems like this is not super rare? It's the first time I've seen it through my grind to level 180 though. I was going to buy The Evil's Exquisite Force Shield with a 35.37% block chance but my Superior Force Shield has a 34.66% block chance. Is it really worth paying 50k for an extra 0.7% block chance? This post has been edited by lolgay6: Jul 6 2020, 14:44
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Jul 6 2020, 14:45
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Nezu
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QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 13:04)  I salvaged it since I invested a bunch of low-grade wood in it. If I had sold it I would have only got 250 credits (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I don't understand how the bazaar thought it was reasonable to sell an Average grade item for 10k credits... Does the Void Strike proc the Domino strike? If so that would increase the DPS by a lot. Otherwise it would be really meh... Converting to void damage only boosts DPS by up to 25% against the monsters I can see...And the extra Void Strike is only an additional 50% against the monster that I'm hitting directly, so probably not even 20% of my total DPS. All added together it would be only 30-50% extra damage? Still respectable but... Buy prices seem ridiculous because it was abusable in the past (salvaging high-grade equipments to reset their IW level, without spending shards) - possibly other reasons too, but I don't remember exactly... No - Void Strike isn't an extra melee attack. Imagine it's just an extra effect added to your regular attack. It only procs against the primary target of your attack. QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 13:04)  I just got my first Superior Force Shield drop...it seems like this is not super rare? It's the first time I've seen it through my grind to level 180 though.
I was going to buy The Evil's Exquisite Force Shield with a 35.37% block chance but my Superior Force Shield has a 34.66% block chance. Is it really worth paying 50k for an extra 0.7% block chance?
Force shields are the 'rare' type in that they make up something like 25% of all shields at legendary level - at lower rarity grades, they make up even less. No, it's probably not worth paying 50k for that little upgrade. In the future when you're looking at magnificent or legendary upgrades, there may be a much larger margin. Especially legendaries can be important to have a good base roll on - because you'll be amplifying the difference when you upgrade it. This post has been edited by lestion: Jul 6 2020, 14:47
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Jul 6 2020, 15:03
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lolgay6
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Is nimble wazikashi + force shield + full plate armor considered good for level 200+? I don't have any rapiers with high parry %
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Jul 6 2020, 15:21
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Nezu
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QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 14:03)  Is nimble wazikashi + force shield + full plate armor considered good for level 200+? I don't have any rapiers with high parry %
It's appropriate in the low level range. At higher levels, 1H players prefer to use rapiers of slaughter (or shortswords of slaughter) for higher damage - the parry isn't as necessary when you have enough block from your shield, and the parry amount becomes higher on all weapons as you level up. Plate armor is something only used until power armor is attainable. It's very tanky, yes! But it also offers no damage, so the game becomes really slow.
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Jul 6 2020, 15:38
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lolgay6
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QUOTE(lestion @ Jul 6 2020, 16:21)  It's appropriate in the low level range.
At higher levels, 1H players prefer to use rapiers of slaughter (or shortswords of slaughter) for higher damage - the parry isn't as necessary when you have enough block from your shield, and the parry amount becomes higher on all weapons as you level up.
Plate armor is something only used until power armor is attainable. It's very tanky, yes! But it also offers no damage, so the game becomes really slow.
If damage is the desired property then why not use Axe or even 2H? All the rapiers I see at my level are 300-350 damage whilst the Axes and Katanas at the same level are 650-700 damage. I thought the main reason to use rapier was because of the parry %. And shortswords have the same effect as Axe (bleeding wound), but have less damage. I don't understand why people would choose to use shortsword instead of axe. This post has been edited by lolgay6: Jul 6 2020, 15:48
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Jul 6 2020, 15:48
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Nezu
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QUOTE(lolgay6 @ Jul 6 2020, 14:38)  If damage is the desired property then why not use Axe or even 2H? All the rapiers I see at my level are 300-350 damage whilst the Axes and Katanas at the same level are 650-700 damage.
I thought the main reason to use rapier was because of the parry %.
There's a balance to hit. Block and parry combined need to be high enough to hit the counter-cap (3 per turn) fairly consistently, but going too high gains no benefit because of that cap. Axes only have a little more ADB than other one-hand weapons. Shortswords are a good balance between high parry and high damage, but they only have bleeding wound - while many players prefer to play rapier for Penetrated Armor. 2H doesn't get counter-attacks, and it suffers from survival problems (no shield and low parry = very very low avoidance, must use light armor). It's arguably the weakest melee style.
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