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post Jul 2 2020, 09:05
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A question I haven't seen asked/replied before afaik :

for cheap elem mages only doing Arenas, is a 4+1 build with Redwood Elementalist comparable/better/worse in term of speed performance vs. a 3+2 Redwood Destruction ?

Assuming you reach minimum elem prof with both, say 0.80.

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post Jul 2 2020, 10:15
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jul 2 2020, 08:05) *

A question I haven't seen asked/replied before afaik :

for cheap elem mages only doing Arenas, is a 4+1 build with Redwood Elementalist comparable/better/worse in term of speed performance vs. a 3+2 Redwood Destruction ?

Assuming you reach minimum elem prof with both, say 0.80.


If both hit roughly the same proficiency, use arcane score to compare (assuming you have the pieces).

If you're comparing prospective setups: ideally, you'd use a 4+robe (or pants) with a redwood of destruction for arenas. Reaching 0.79 won't happen immediately but it should be relatively accessible, with prof forged and a little grind - not too long. You don't need to stress about starting off at the goal.

(If you cannot afford to forge proficiency as the bare minimum, do not switch to mage yet.)

further edit: generally I would think the 3+2 destruction setup would have marginally better score. Elementalist can be played 5+0 and hit the prof goal, though, and with radiants that can theoretically get the best performance.

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post Jul 2 2020, 11:14
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QUOTE(lestion @ Jul 2 2020, 09:15) *

If both hit roughly the same proficiency, use arcane score to compare (assuming you have the pieces).

If you're comparing prospective setups: ideally, you'd use a 4+robe (or pants) with a redwood of destruction for arenas. Reaching 0.79 won't happen immediately but it should be relatively accessible, with prof forged and a little grind - not too long. You don't need to stress about starting off at the goal.

(If you cannot afford to forge proficiency as the bare minimum, do not switch to mage yet.)

further edit: generally I would think the 3+2 destruction setup would have marginally better score. Elementalist can be played 5+0 and hit the prof goal, though, and with radiants that can theoretically get the best performance.


Thanks for the answer.
Since I don't want to switch really, but just get ready someday to use a cheap setup to farm low arenas quickly for tokens, I suppose I wouldn't see a big difference one way or the other, but wanted to be sure I hadn't made some hugely wrong assumption. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jul 2 2020, 11:17
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jul 2 2020, 10:14) *

Thanks for the answer.
Since I don't want to switch really, but just get ready someday to use a cheap setup to farm low arenas quickly for tokens, I suppose I wouldn't see a big difference one way or the other, but wanted to be sure I hadn't made some hugely wrong assumption. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


Just grab an elementalist robe, cheap radiants for your preferred element (they're all cheap as hell for elemental these days), a redwood staff (also cheap), forge the proficiency on the robe & staff, and then bam! you're a mage capable of arenas. It's a low entry bar. Beyond that, forge the staff as much as you can, and when you're done with that, start on the phases...
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post Jul 2 2020, 13:51
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QUOTE(lestion @ Jul 2 2020, 10:17) *

Just grab an elementalist robe, cheap radiants for your preferred element (they're all cheap as hell for elemental these days), a redwood staff (also cheap), forge the proficiency on the robe & staff, and then bam! you're a mage capable of arenas. It's a low entry bar. Beyond that, forge the staff as much as you can, and when you're done with that, start on the phases...


Right now for Surtr, I have an unforged 3+2 setup (phase all mitigation Leg., elem one Leg Pants and one Mag Gloves) with a Mag. Fiery Redwood staff of Surtr forged 5 in Dmg and Pabs, 10 in Elem and 13 in EDB.

It works more or less, but later on I'd like to get a cheap LFRE to be able to get rid of one prof piece for a fourth phase.

No radiants atm, though I have this Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Surtr that is pre-0.81 and still unassigned, so I'm not sure if it would be better to try to sell it instead of using it.
I could use this Legendary Amber Phase Gloves of Surtrinstead.
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post Jul 3 2020, 04:26
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lads, at first look, everything alright in here right? [i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/w0cxL0Z.png lvl 96
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post Jul 3 2020, 04:38
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QUOTE(EternalBankay @ Jul 2 2020, 22:26) *

lads, at first look, everything alright in here right? [i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/w0cxL0Z.png lvl 96

No.

You're mixing armor types, so you won't benefit from the abilities of any armor type. Light is best for niten, but you have mostly heavy.

Also, your dexterity is very low for any style of play, and your agility is low for anything but 1H.
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post Jul 3 2020, 04:45
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QUOTE(jantch @ Jul 3 2020, 05:38) *

No.

You're mixing armor types, so you won't benefit from the abilities of any armor type. Light is best for niten, but you have mostly heavy.

Also, your dexterity is very low for any style of play, and your agility is low for anything but 1H.

so should I put light armor instead of those magnificent heavy armor even if the only light armor I have is average at best? and thanks about the dexterity thing I thought it was useless
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post Jul 3 2020, 04:49
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QUOTE(EternalBankay @ Jul 2 2020, 22:45) *

so should I put light armor instead of those magnificent heavy armor even if the only light armor I have is average at best? and thanks about the dexterity thing I thought it was useless

You could try it with heavy. Average is pretty weak.
Make sure that you have your abilities set for whatever type of armor you use.

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post Jul 3 2020, 04:57
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QUOTE(jantch @ Jul 3 2020, 05:49) *

You could try it with heavy. Average is pretty weak.
Make sure that you have your abilities set for whatever type of armor you use.

yes of course, thanks.
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post Jul 3 2020, 14:31
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Is current riddlemaster kind of bugged? I've kept making mistake on choosing the answer (even though I'm 100% sure that's the pony) and it always happened when the image shows fluttershy alike. I'm currently running the monsterbation script that allows me to pick answer by just clicking on A/B/C instead of typing it down.

In almost 1 month of playing, I've never made any mistake in answering but then these past 2-3 days I ALWAYS answered wrong (again, Fluttershy look-alike image). Has anyone experienced the same thing like I do? I've been losing around 16 stamina by now and it's really disorienting seeing as I want to level up faster and I'm too poor to buy ED.

If I found the image again I will edit this post again if it goes unresolved.
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post Jul 3 2020, 14:54
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curious about iw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
when you want Jug5, you get Jug3 and 2+2 or Jug3 and 1+3 in iw7,
then continue iw 8 or just reforge ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Jul 3 2020, 15:06
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QUOTE(Zeroneos @ Jul 3 2020, 13:31) *

Is current riddlemaster kind of bugged? I've kept making mistake on choosing the answer (even though I'm 100% sure that's the pony) and it always happened when the image shows fluttershy alike. I'm currently running the monsterbation script that allows me to pick answer by just clicking on A/B/C instead of typing it down.

In almost 1 month of playing, I've never made any mistake in answering but then these past 2-3 days I ALWAYS answered wrong (again, Fluttershy look-alike image). Has anyone experienced the same thing like I do? I've been losing around 16 stamina by now and it's really disorienting seeing as I want to level up faster and I'm too poor to buy ED.

If I found the image again I will edit this post again if it goes unresolved.


If you're 100% confident it's Fluttershy - one thing about the Monsterbation clickable riddlemaster is that the click regions are not exactly defined by the boundaries of the name text, but the general region (because the names are part of the image itself, not part of the page's HTML). In that case, you should try clicking just above each arrow indicator.

But considering it's happening consistently, I don't think this is the case - I'm leaning towards a case of mistaken identity. Please do post the offending riddle next time! There are a lot of people who call 'bug' on failing riddlemaster and, to date, I am not aware of a single case where they were right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE(Matsuoka Rina @ Jul 3 2020, 13:54) *

curious about iw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
when you want Jug5, you get Jug3 and 2+2 or Jug3 and 1+3 in iw7,
then continue iw 8 or just reforge ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


I would continue for a personal item - the chance is not negligible, but it is still low.

When I ran IW service, I would reforge immediately if I got a third potency (or make the runs after that free) - because shard usage is slightly more efficient when resetting that way, and the customer should always expect the service to use the most efficient average strategy.

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post Jul 3 2020, 17:37
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QUOTE(lestion @ Jul 3 2020, 20:06) *

If you're 100% confident it's Fluttershy - one thing about the Monsterbation clickable riddlemaster is that the click regions are not exactly defined by the boundaries of the name text, but the general region (because the names are part of the image itself, not part of the page's HTML). In that case, you should try clicking just above each arrow indicator.

But considering it's happening consistently, I don't think this is the case - I'm leaning towards a case of mistaken identity. Please do post the offending riddle next time! There are a lot of people who call 'bug' on failing riddlemaster and, to date, I am not aware of a single case where they were right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
I would continue for a personal item - the chance is not negligible, but it is still low.


I got the cursed fluttershy again, this time I answered by typing into the box and look at the result.
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/vPPGk7c.png)
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/JdqdYGj.png)

If this is not Fluttershy, then I don't know what else is this.
*I also answered less than 20 seconds, the answer should have been obvious but I still marked wrong. At this point, I already lost 21 stamina and it really hinders with my progression. Is this another forced way to use up all my stored up precursor artifact to get ED (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)?

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post Jul 3 2020, 17:56
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QUOTE(Zeroneos @ Jul 3 2020, 16:37) *

*I also answered less than 20 seconds, the answer should have been obvious but I still marked wrong. At this point, I already lost 21 stamina and it really hinders with my progression. Is this another forced way to use up all my stored up precursor artifact to get ED (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)?


That is indeed Fluttershy...

Looks like the timer's your problem. I note that it's not even displaying the time in your screenshot. Did this riddle load immediately for you?
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post Jul 3 2020, 18:01
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It loads immediately, the monsterbation script run flawlessly that it strikes enemies quickly, indicates that there is no lag.

The problem is...this ONLY happens when any riddlemaster question needed to be answered with FLUTTERSHY. I had no problems answering other ponies. My answer is never wrong when I choose the other ponies, but choosing fluttershy always flagged me with mistake.

*Edit: I will do another run and capture riddlemaster question again when it's other ponies. The buff will appear if it's correct question

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post Jul 3 2020, 18:12
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QUOTE(Zeroneos @ Jul 3 2020, 17:01) *

It loads immediately, the monsterbation script run flawlessly that it strikes enemies quickly, indicates that there is no lag.

The problem is...this ONLY happens when any riddlemaster question needed to be answered with FLUTTERSHY. I had no problems answering other ponies. My answer is never wrong when I choose the other ponies, but choosing fluttershy always flagged me with mistake.

*Edit: I will do another run and capture riddlemaster question again when it's other ponies. The buff will appear if it's correct question


I have a suspicion, but I will wait to see it a second time before updating my diagnosis... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

edit: specifically, I'd like to see a Fluttershy riddle a second time

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post Jul 3 2020, 18:13
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QUOTE(Zeroneos @ Jul 3 2020, 23:01) *

It loads immediately, the monsterbation script run flawlessly that it strikes enemies quickly, indicates that there is no lag.

The problem is...this ONLY happens when any riddlemaster question needed to be answered with FLUTTERSHY. I had no problems answering other ponies. My answer is never wrong when I choose the other ponies, but choosing fluttershy always flagged me with mistake.

*Edit: I will do another run and capture riddlemaster question again when it's other ponies. The buff will appear if it's correct question


Well, here's the definite proof
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/jvKt5Ek.png)
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/KEMjhox.png)

I was planning to post it again everytime I got fluttershy anyways, but that means the next time I will lose 7 stamina and that would made me lose 28 stamina which are equivalent to 28 hours waiting time already...*sigh*

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post Jul 3 2020, 18:47
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QUOTE(Matsuoka Rina @ Jul 3 2020, 14:54) *

curious about iw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
when you want Jug5, you get Jug3 and 2+2 or Jug3 and 1+3 in iw7,
then continue iw 8 or just reforge ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I would always reforge at those situations.

QUOTE(Zeroneos @ Jul 3 2020, 18:13) *

Well, here's the definite proof

I was planning to post it again everytime I got fluttershy anyways, but that means the next time I will lose 7 stamina and that would made me lose 28 stamina which are equivalent to 28 hours waiting time already...*sigh*

dude, you probably can't tell your fluttershies from your pinkiepies. Or are you running more scripts than just monsterbation? Other scripts could be interfering. Could you share a list of your running scripts?

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And what is suppose to be the problem here? The buff is there, this is twilight and the riddle was answered correct. Do i miss something? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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