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Jun 23 2020, 07:35
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Noni
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QUOTE(neogdoma @ Jun 23 2020, 06:22)  What is the best way to use 80m C to buy equips that can use for a long time: 1. mega set and pls tell which spell 2. rapier set Just spend on the equips. upgrades excludes.
1. mage - for 80m you could get a decent elemental set, 25m for a staff, and then buy charged gear (not top-notch of course, meciocre EDB). That's 80m well spent. You would play with imperil, of course. I would go for elec or wind, but you cold and fire are only a small bit behind those. Find a staff first, that will determine the element. However. "just spend on equips, not upgrades" - well okay then 80m will be enough for a good set. But mage is going to suck if you don't fully forge yous staff and at least partly forge all your other equipment. 2. 80m would get you a ridiculously good 1h rapier set. But that would be way slower than a 80m mage set. Much easier to finish PFUDOR grindfest with that, though. It just takes more time.
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Jun 23 2020, 07:52
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 23 2020, 07:35)  2. 80m would get you a ridiculously good 1h rapier set. But that would be way slower than a 80m mage set. Much easier to finish PFUDOR grindfest with that, though. It just takes more time.
When he wants to do PFEST with 1H, he should go sure as sure for spread out elemental power armor, and not using a fully protection set. At least one better would be two pieces of warding.
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Jun 23 2020, 12:29
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neogdoma
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 23 2020, 05:35)  1. mage - for 80m you could get a decent elemental set, 25m for a staff, and then buy charged gear (not top-notch of course, meciocre EDB). That's 80m well spent. You would play with imperil, of course. I would go for elec or wind, but you cold and fire are only a small bit behind those. Find a staff first, that will determine the element. However. "just spend on equips, not upgrades" - well okay then 80m will be enough for a good set. But mage is going to suck if you don't fully forge yous staff and at least partly forge all your other equipment.
2. 80m would get you a ridiculously good 1h rapier set. But that would be way slower than a 80m mage set. Much easier to finish PFUDOR grindfest with that, though. It just takes more time.
So 80M buy 1h rapier and 30M upgrade them is enough to finish PFUDOR GF?
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Jun 23 2020, 13:25
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(neogdoma @ Jun 23 2020, 12:29)  So 80M buy 1h rapier and 30M upgrade them is enough to finish PFUDOR GF?
So 80+30M for the whole set and fully forging? With todays prices i am quite sure there will be some leftovers. And with a fully forged power armor set, yes it is possible to clear a PFest.
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Jun 23 2020, 16:26
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(neogdoma @ Jun 23 2020, 19:29)  So 80M buy 1h rapier and 30M upgrade them is enough to finish PFUDOR GF?
If I could clear pfgf with shitty ~1.5M budget, 80M for 1h is way over-budget if you merely wish to finish PFGF even on lvl 400... There are dozens of power armor unsold on super's auction everweek, high %tile ADB rapier sold for mere hundreds k credits, unless you're so adamant on peerless SDE force shield you don't have to rob a bank for one high block SDE - if you're fine with SDA you could even get one for 50k. also, the only expensive stuff for upgrading melee is the binding of slaughter and the repurposed actuators, others are not so much. And lastly, I think the only thing you actually need to forge are the shield block and weapons parry, the rest is only to make it a bit faster and comfortable. but if your target is finishing PFGF, 80m on mage would only put you slightly in front of the starting line. for your level, I believe it would be better to aim for elemental mage instead, true you might won't be able to clear PFfest right away, but it could be used for clearing arena, faster farming on PFIW or IWBTHfest than 1h on PFfest. spend something like 20-30M for the equip and the rest for upgrade (take note that a decent upgrade to lvl 25 for mage equip could cost you about 12-15M per equip), elemental resist prefix phase are dirt cheap - even the high %tile, you could snatch a couple of mid %tile charged for less than 5M, the staff would be the hardest to bargain. I don't know your money flow, but if you still consider your 80M as a treasure you collect after years, don't bother too much with those tens of millions equip yet - moreover when you still don't have one set of equip you are confident and comfortable with. the worst could happen to you is splurging on one pricey high performance equip but couldn't fit it into a working set because you run out of money to buy and upgrade the rest of the slot. This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jun 23 2020, 16:45
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Jun 23 2020, 17:05
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Pilip25
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Hi im currently lv 237 and I came here because I have plenty questions and hope that I could get some answers. 1.First of all I am playing on Hell difficulty all time but I would like to know if there is a big difference in Nintendo or Hell because I could clear Nintendo but takes much longer. 2.Should I worry yet about Upgrading or Reforging my gear or is that endgame stuff. 3.This might got answered probly a lot alrdy but I didnt found anything useful or up to date;and in the last pages I havent seen it either. Its About Monster Lab, Should I use all my chaos token for unlocking new monsters and should I bother getting them to a certain power level? I know they gain effects at certain power levels but was wondering if its worth the price. 4. Which is the best Ring of Blood Challenge to repeat? Thanks (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jun 23 2020, 17:48
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Pilip25 @ Jun 23 2020, 17:05)  Hi
Hi (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(Pilip25 @ Jun 23 2020, 17:05)  1.First of all I am playing on Hell difficulty all time but I would like to know if there is a big difference in Nintendo or Hell because I could clear Nintendo but takes much longer.
Hm, the difference between Nintendo and Hell isnt really that big, so when you really need much longer i would say stay at hell for a bit longer. QUOTE(Pilip25 @ Jun 23 2020, 17:05)  2.Should I worry yet about Upgrading or Reforging my gear or is that endgame stuff.
Hm, should is a strong word, but i would say, upgrading the first five levels wont hurt at all if you are able to. Or depending on your playstyle forging parry, block and evade. Just keep in mind to salvage them when you change the equipment. Forge Level has to come from somewhere right? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Pilip25 @ Jun 23 2020, 17:05)  3.This might got answered probly a lot alrdy
Yeah, dont worry about that too much. A lot of questions have allready be asked here, by other people. QUOTE(Pilip25 @ Jun 23 2020, 17:05)  Its About Monster Lab, Should I use all my chaos token for unlocking new monsters and should I bother getting them to a certain power level? I know they gain effects at certain power levels but was wondering if its worth the price.
Go all in for the slots. Monsterlab is a numbers game. The more monster you have, the higher the chance to get something good from them like a phazon. And tbh, if you dont really have a shit-tone of credits, it doesnt really matter, i mean everything below PL 500 does imo absolutly no difference, and even above that for a single monster -something that can allready be quite costly for a player of your level- it doesnt mean much. So imo use those tokens to open slots and use crystals only to save some happy pills. QUOTE(Pilip25 @ Jun 23 2020, 17:05)  4. Which is the best Ring of Blood Challenge to repeat?
Imo that depends, Konata if you want to "trade" blood token for chaos token and Flying Spaghetti Monster for the credits. QUOTE(Pilip25 @ Jun 23 2020, 17:05)  Hope that helps. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Jun 23 2020, 18:54
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Pilip25
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Thanks a lot for the reply! That definetly cleared out all of my questions and helps me out to plan my future progressing without worrying too much that I do stuff wrong. (Though I wasted a lot of Chaos Tokens to up my pet alrdy so thats a yikes x_x)
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Jun 23 2020, 19:02
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Pilip25 @ Jun 23 2020, 18:54)  Thanks a lot for the reply!
Glad i could help. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(Pilip25 @ Jun 23 2020, 18:54)  Though I wasted a lot of Chaos Tokens to up my pet alrdy so thats a yikes x_x)
Oh, dont you worry, that happend to a lot of people, like me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jun 24 2020, 00:29
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b61616x
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when should i stop keeping all of my skills ( except int) at the same level? wiki only mentions early to keep them similar.
im not sure how to quantify it, but how important is the slaughter prefix on a rapier? ty
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Jun 24 2020, 01:39
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(b61616x @ Jun 24 2020, 00:29)  when should i stop keeping all of my skills ( except int) at the same level? wiki only mentions early to keep them similar.
Oh, you mean your PAB, well imo you can now stop to keep them even and set them depending on what you play. QUOTE(b61616x @ Jun 24 2020, 00:29)  im not sure how to quantify it, but how important is the slaughter prefix on a rapier? ty
Imo unless you use it as a DW offhand weapon is it the only real usefull suffix for all 1h weapons.
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Jun 25 2020, 15:14
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dibdib
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About HV Utils mage statistics: i'm trying to understand data in block about mitigation% and damage. For what tier are this data and are it accurate? When i read logs i see much higher numbers, even after taking Focus and crit into account. But less than this number*spell damage coef from wiki table. Confused.
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Jun 25 2020, 16:11
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(dibdib @ Jun 25 2020, 15:14)  About HV Utils mage statistics: i'm trying to understand data in block about mitigation% and damage. For what tier are this data and are it accurate? When i read logs i see much higher numbers, even after taking Focus and crit into account. But less than this number*spell damage coef from wiki table. Confused.
HV utils shows the expected average for monsters with that particular mitigation%, based on actual monster data. It's quite accurate for high-level players, who encounter the same monsters as ssssss2. It's not helpful to use that to predict the actual damage that you'll see in the log, but it is helpful for seeing the impact of a new piece of equipment etc. You can use it to evaluate the difference between 2 equips sets
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Jun 25 2020, 17:19
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dibdib
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 25 2020, 17:11)  HV utils shows the expected average for monsters with that particular mitigation%, based on actual monster data. It's quite accurate for high-level players, who encounter the same monsters as ssssss2.
It's not helpful to use that to predict the actual damage that you'll see in the log, but it is helpful for seeing the impact of a new piece of equipment etc. You can use it to evaluate the difference between 2 equips sets
Thank you! Well, this means high-level monsters will be much harder to kill resist-wise, not only much stronger...
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Jun 25 2020, 21:12
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Nezu
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QUOTE(dibdib @ Jun 25 2020, 14:14)  About HV Utils mage statistics: i'm trying to understand data in block about mitigation% and damage. For what tier are this data and are it accurate? When i read logs i see much higher numbers, even after taking Focus and crit into account. But less than this number*spell damage coef from wiki table. Confused.
This is a complicated subject to explain - I wrote about it before in this thread, which might help. TL;DR: the mitigation% and resist values show your arcane score modified by various monster resistance & mitigation values. This is your average base damage, before spell modifiers. It also includes crit as part of the average - your crit numbers will be much higher, and your non-crits will be much lower. HVUtils is intended to show you a realistic average.
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Jun 25 2020, 21:33
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Pilip25
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Hello, I have a question about gear: what makes a gear good? I see all those ADB percentiles etc. but to generalize the question, what are the most important stats u want to have a high % on a weapon, and armor. Also regarding armor, isnt power armor just better then any other armor for plates at least? Also do armors even get better migitation wise? Am I missing something or are only the stats increasing?(like Str Def Dex etc) As for element it seems that dark dmg rapiers are quite pricy. I am currently using Shield and 1H Rapier, I already know that a Slaughter Rapier is a must for that. Also, if u get low level gear, with high %es/stats, could u soulfuse it and make it decent, since it should scale up to your level right? If there is already a guide covering this, a link to it would be nice:D Thanks!
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Jun 25 2020, 22:03
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dibdib
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QUOTE(lestion @ Jun 25 2020, 22:12)  This is your average base damage, before spell modifiers. It also includes crit as part of the average.
Thank you! It's the piece i couldn't get.
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Jun 25 2020, 22:37
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(Pilip25 @ Jun 26 2020, 04:33)  Hello, I have a question about gear: what makes a gear good? I see all those ADB percentiles etc. but to generalize the question, what are the most important stats u want to have a high % on a weapon, and armor. https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_...anced#Equipmenttake note for point no.2 that you could obtain void attack from IW. QUOTE Also regarding armor, isnt power armor just better then any other armor for plates at least? not really. a rough generalization, plate is more defense oriented while power offer offense boost in exchange of lower defensive stats than plate. Light more into damage avoidance (have evasion and agi but low mitigation) while heavy lean more into damage mitigation (no agi + evasion but more mitigation). power armor also give more attack than shade. Clothes are only for mage. QUOTE Also do armors even get better migitation wise? Am I missing something or are only the stats increasing?(like Str Def Dex etc) Physical and magical mitigation scaled with level, specific (crushing/slashing/piercing/elemental) are not.QUOTE Also, if u get low level gear, with high %es/stats, could u soulfuse it and make it decent, since it should scale up to your level right?
Yes.
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Jun 25 2020, 23:06
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Pilip25
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Thanks for the reply. I didnt found that wiki link, it definetly helped me out!
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Jun 26 2020, 01:27
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neogdoma
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What armor is better for raiper to run GF? power or plate?
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