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post May 26 2020, 06:06
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 26 2020, 04:57) *

Not when you have such high burden. High burden does negate evade.
True, but but he would benefit from other stats more as from his high AGI.

Agi also gives mitigations. Even if he were to reduce it by 10 right now, he's at best be able to add 2 points in one of the other main stats. Even if he put it in wisdom, it's such a small amount, and since attack speed it based on points above his level, he'll likely be adding more points into it in later levels anyway. I am interested as to what weapon he's using that doesn't give him any agility though. I'm guessing a weapon without all it's pabs, and in light of that, when he upgrades his weapon to a full pab'd one, he may have too much (for his level) then.

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post May 26 2020, 06:16
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QUOTE(overvelming @ May 26 2020, 06:06) *

Thx for your reply, yea, as you mentioned, with more than 80 of equipment burden, Agility seems have not much effort. Guess I need to set the attribution priority of Agility equal to Intelligence and get a better shield.
You are welcome. And personally i would suggest to set your Agi as high that a single more point into it would give you attack speed bonus. But because that number actually does depend on your level, just let it where it is right now and ignore it while leveling up until it is at zero. After that you should sheck from level to level if you can spend another point into it. No need to set it as low as Int, the benefit from Int for 1H is much, much smaller. Like shank says Agi gives you a bonus to PM, while Int only gives you some SP. Good luck with getting a better shield. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post May 26 2020, 06:31
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 25 2020, 20:16) *

You are welcome. And personally i would suggest to set your Agi as high that a single more point into it would give you attack speed bonus. But because that number actually does depend on your level, just let it where it is right now and ignore it while leveling up until it is at zero. After that you should sheck from level to level if you can spend another point into it. No need to set it as low as Int, the benefit from Int for 1H is much, much smaller. Like shank says Agi gives you a bonus to PM, while Int only gives you some SP. Good luck with getting a better shield. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Thanks, really appreciate it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post May 26 2020, 19:18
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How to configure mouse/keyboard/monsterbation for a mage?
So, today I put some mismatched cloth, took a staff and made through a few short arenas on hard.
It was interesting, fast and even SoL was not triggered.
It was also very frustrating as I don't get a neat way to play as a mage, as is at lost how to configure keyboard and mouse.
Basic tactic seems to be: imperil all (Ctrl-Z to C as targeted Imperils, same as melee, MMouse for failed), cast Tier3, then T2-T1 as needed. For now, I have T3 on B shortcut and Ctrl-hover as T2-T1 rotation. But don't feel easy or natural with this.
How do you play mage?
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post May 26 2020, 19:27
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QUOTE(dibdib @ May 26 2020, 19:18) *

How to configure mouse/keyboard/monsterbation for a mage?
So, today I put some mismatched cloth, took a staff and made through a few short arenas on hard.
It was interesting, fast and even SoL was not triggered.
It was also very frustrating as I don't get a neat way to play as a mage, as is at lost how to configure keyboard and mouse.
Basic tactic seems to be: imperil all (Ctrl-Z to C as targeted Imperils, same as melee, MMouse for failed), cast Tier3, then T2-T1 as needed. For now, I have T3 on B shortcut and Ctrl-hover as T2-T1 rotation. But don't feel easy or natural with this.
How do you play mage?

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startRoundWithHover: false,


   mouseEngage: false,
    clickLeft: Strongest([ToggleHover, Use(5)]),
     clickRight: Strongest([Use('n1'), Use(7)]),
    hoverAction: Strongest([Cast('Ragnarok'), Cast('Disintegrate'), Cast('Corruption')]), // Dark spell rotation
    hoverShiftAction: Strongest([ToggleHover, Cast('Imperil')]), // single cast of Imperil


bind: "\
          Bind(KEY_Z, Shift, ToggleHover);\
          Bind(KEY_X, Shift, ToggleHover);\
          Bind(KEY_X, Ctrl, ToggleHover);\
          Bind(KEY_Z, Alt, ToggleHover);\
           Bind(KEY_Z, ToggleHover);\        
          Bind(KEY_SPACE, Strongest([Use(3), Cast('Full-Cure'), Cast('Cure'), Use(2)]));\
          Bind(KEY_SPACE, Shift, Strongest([Use(3), Cast('Full-Cure'), Use(2), Cast('Cure')]));\
          Bind(KEY_F, Strongest([Use('s6'), Use('s5'), Use('s4'), Use(12), Use('s3')]));\
          Bind(KEY_P, Use(8));\
          Bind(KEY_Q, HoverAction(Cast('MagNet')));\
          Bind(KEY_DOWN, Settings);\
          ",



Like this. Start round: point at monster, press shift Z, point at next, press Z, etc until all imperiled. then press Z to get the hover going. Kill em all. Next round.
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post May 26 2020, 21:34
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Thank you!
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startRoundWithHover: false,

This was the key!

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post May 27 2020, 03:40
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Repair Bear hath perk is worth or not for 2 GF run daily?
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post May 27 2020, 05:24
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QUOTE(neogdoma @ May 27 2020, 03:40) *

Repair Bear hath perk is worth or not for 2 GF run daily?
Repair Bear need a shit-tone or two of Fest's to pay off. With two GF per day, that could take a while. I would say that it shouldnt be anywhere near of your high priority list.

Just to make sure you understand what i am talking about, it would take years to pay off with what you play right now.

And according to math and current hath prices you would need 4000 Fest until repair bear does pay off. These number comes to you thanks to lestion. If you have any problem with the number 4k, blame him not me.

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post May 27 2020, 21:19
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Is there a good way to cast full imperil at the start of rounds without using the keyboard? What is script allowed to do for this?
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post May 27 2020, 21:25
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ May 27 2020, 21:19) *

Is there a good way to cast full imperil at the start of rounds without using the keyboard? What is script allowed to do for this?

Well, you can just bind imperil to a mouse key, don't start round with hover, and then toggle hover with another mouse key. But automated, that would not be allowed.
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post May 27 2020, 21:47
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i repeat my scheme:
disable "have hoverplay active at the beginning of each round"
left click & hover - T3 & T2 & T1
wheel up - imperil
wheel down - toggle hover
right click - cure

try, it's fast and simble
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post May 27 2020, 22:22
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I'm guessing either of those won't be a big improvement over what I'm doing already. I just leave hover on at all times, and I manually leave the monster area between rounds, wheel up for imperil, then touch the mouse cursor to a monster and leave the area again, and wheel up while I'm moving 3 monsters down.

I don't think I made any changes to the default behavior of the script. I guess this seems to be about the fastest someone can go without the keyboard. Just wanted to make sure since I'm finishing up gathering my month-long imperil comparison data for rapier play.

Wait, would it be allowed to bind imperil plus a particular monster target to a mouse key, like you can for a keyboard key? Then just like using the keyboard, I could set 3 mouse buttons to be Imperil Monster 2, Imperil Monster 5, Imperil Monster 8.

Even better, is it allowed/possible to bind wheel up to imperil plus a click, and on a particular monster target? Then someone could just roll the wheel around with the mouse cursor in a neutral area.
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post May 28 2020, 00:34
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Monsterbar? lines 153-158, not available from settings in menu.
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post May 28 2020, 01:05
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Regarding old soulfused equipment like Mags and lower, should I sell them at the bazaar for the credits? Or is salvaging them better?
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post May 28 2020, 01:08
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Depends on what equipment it is.

Honestly, one of the safest ways to make that choice is with HV Utils https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=211883 , it'll tell you both the sell and salvage value (you can change the sales price of materials to match current forum prices).
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post May 28 2020, 03:10
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What is the stun chance on counter attack with 1H style? Has anyone studied it?
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post May 29 2020, 15:18
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So how do you go about getting good gear in the mid levels? Do we just have to put up with shoddy Exquisite/ Magnificent we find ourselves until 500? It seems incredibly difficult to find affordable upgrades before max level. I want to sell stuff and save some credits but it seems buying gear before 500 is really counterproductive with the price difference. I often see level 500 upgrades to my gear in the bazaar they're so common. Feels like I either have to hang on to crappy gear forever or gamble on the shrine.

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post May 29 2020, 15:24
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QUOTE(FruitSmoothie @ May 29 2020, 14:18) *

So how do you go about getting good gear in the mid levels? Do we just have to put up with shoddy Exquisite/ Magnificent we find ourselves until 500? It seems incredibly difficult to find affordable upgrades before max level. I want to sell stuff and save some credits but it seems buying gear before 500 is really counterproductive with the price difference. I often see level 500 upgrades to my gear in the bazaar they're so common. Feels like I either have to hang on to crappy gear forever or gamble on the shrine.

Gambling on the shrine will rarely, if ever, go in your favour. Check out Decondelites low level auction (this weeks: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=238603 ), the prices for low level gear in that are pretty good, and most should be in soulfuse range. Just don't worry too much about getting very high end legendaries, best worry about those once you are more set up, with a steady income, and know what style you want to play for sure.

Back to the trophies, they are a good source of income to help fund buying better gear if you sell them, especially now that their prices have gone up. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=236519 lestions hvmarket is a good place to sell stuff like that . People with Follower of Snowflake have a use for them, but for everyone else the chance of getting legendaries is piss poor, and then the chance of getting a legendary that's actually useful is really bad. Then if the stars align and you do get one, you have to hope they are good rolls. Most people will make a loss shrining them.

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post May 29 2020, 17:28
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QUOTE(FruitSmoothie @ May 29 2020, 13:18) *

So how do you go about getting good gear in the mid levels? Do we just have to put up with shoddy Exquisite/ Magnificent we find ourselves until 500? It seems incredibly difficult to find affordable upgrades before max level. I want to sell stuff and save some credits but it seems buying gear before 500 is really counterproductive with the price difference. I often see level 500 upgrades to my gear in the bazaar they're so common. Feels like I either have to hang on to crappy gear forever or gamble on the shrine.

"Good gear" is the mean, not the goal. They're what it takes to survive and deal damage at higher levels.
You'll eventually have access to more stuff as you level up, but also notice that the monsters will also be more and more mean. And it's where the spiral starts: better gear, more forging, more credits and grinding needed to defeat the ever stronger monsters.

At Lvl500, the monsters stop being stronger, but they're all damn tanks. And by tank, I mean both in sturdiness and damage output. One does not simply survive without decently forged "good gear", as you call it.
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post May 30 2020, 00:06
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 29 2020, 17:28) *

"Good gear" is the mean, not the goal. They're what it takes to survive and deal damage at higher levels.
You'll eventually have access to more stuff as you level up, but also notice that the monsters will also be more and more mean. And it's where the spiral starts: better gear, more forging, more credits and grinding needed to defeat the ever stronger monsters.

At Lvl500, the monsters stop being stronger, but they're all damn tanks. And by tank, I mean both in sturdiness and damage output. One does not simply survive without decently forged "good gear", as you call it.

It is my goal. People have different reasons to play. I'm well aware of everything you mentioned with leveling up.

QUOTE(Ubershank @ May 29 2020, 15:24) *

Gambling on the shrine will rarely, if ever, go in your favour.

Back to the trophies, they are a good source of income to help fund buying better gear if you sell them, especially now that their prices have gone up. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=236519 lestions hvmarket is a good place to sell stuff like that . People with Follower of Snowflake have a use for them, but for everyone else the chance of getting legendaries is piss poor, and then the chance of getting a legendary that's actually useful is really bad. Then if the stars align and you do get one, you have to hope they are good rolls. Most people will make a loss shrining them.

Thanks, yeah, I remember the shrine being unreliable. That market does seem cool if it functions properly, I'm still a bit iffy about trusting programs like that though. Too bad the game still doesn't have a built in player shop. Maybe I'll just open a shop on the forum soon for that stuff. I was originally just going to try and keep to myself since returning and see how I can do without using the forum and stuff like that but I forgot how dependent on others you are for everything here.

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