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Feb 10 2018, 12:47
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Feb 10 2018, 11:42) └( ̄▽ ̄; )┐=3=3=3=3=3=3 to slow ヽ( ̄д ̄; )ノ=3
cannot help but seeing sort of a rear propulsion (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Feb 10 2018, 13:02
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 10 2018, 18:47) cannot help but seeing sort of a rear propulsion (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) └( ̄▽ ̄; )┐=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3=3ヽ( ̄д ̄; )ノ Is this some kind of weird fetish?
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Feb 10 2018, 13:05
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reality_marble
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fun fact, science __φ(◎◎ヘ) proves that it helps gain speed when running science proves it ٩(◕‿◕。)۶ ! QUOTE(quitetanky @ Feb 10 2018, 00:55) Imperil on first move doesn't seem feasible for me: i'l have to stop hoverplay, and also it will only affect max of 3 targets. And you get attacked before you follow that up
but you will get attacked anyway after the first attack ╮(︶▽︶)╭ and after the second, and after the third... instead of being attacked 12 times now you might get attacked 9-11 by putting 3 monster in-peril using imperil is faster action-speed wise than a physical attack too ヽ( ̄~ ̄ )ノ so you take less attacks by using imperil 3 times than attacking 3 times This post has been edited by reality_marble: Feb 10 2018, 13:05
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Feb 10 2018, 13:12
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Rilshel
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Hello everyone !
I have 21 tokens of blood, and still haven't done any RoB above ryouko asura, any advice on how to spend them and if I can pfudor the last RoB, and some advice on how to have better chances ? ( I'm 1h pretty half exq half mag, not that good of a shield => total block 44%)
thannnnnnnnnks ! =)
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Feb 10 2018, 13:17
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quitetanky
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QUOTE slow was very useful Exactly. Was. Unlike sleep, that still keeps being useful later, slow is basically waste of AP, and should be refunded not later than at lvl 215 imo. Why would you use skill that costs the same as sleep and does less for shorter duration? I still prefer silenced over it too. QUOTE Free 50 PERCENT damage reduction AND no crits, useless? As for weaken, ok it does get 0cd and fast cast, but it gets good only at level 250, so is it really necessary to invest quite a lot of AP at that point? Is it worth spending a turn on it? I rarely find myself casting both sleep and silenced now so its hard to imagine situation when i'll have to go for weaken after that, not to mention there is always bonus confuse as an option. So can somebody explain to me why is it better, why its worth using, not just name what it does? Maybe i'm missing something here.
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Feb 10 2018, 13:53
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qwertypls
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QUOTE(Rilshel @ Feb 10 2018, 05:12) I have 21 tokens of blood, and still haven't done any RoB above ryouko asura, any advice on how to spend them and if I can pfudor the last RoB, and some advice on how to have better chances ? Beat each of them to get clear bonus, the one time credits. Then if you can do TT&TT on PFUDOR, you just keep doing that, otherwise keep playing Flying Spaghetti Monster. Make sure ur spirit shield, spark of life, and protection is on all time, or u may take something like higher than 30k void damage. This post has been edited by qwertypls: Feb 10 2018, 13:57
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Feb 10 2018, 14:02
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(Rilshel @ Feb 10 2018, 09:12) any advice on how to spend them
doing RoB (〜 ̄▽ ̄)〜 I did the last RoB some 10 level higher than you (but I had better block actually and all mags) doable but was a pain and got unlucky with some spirit attacks hitting me so needed to expend a many elixir don't try if you still don't have item slots that fit all your elixirs and I would recommend clearing it at a lower difficulty just to take that clear (๑˃ᴗ˂)ﻭbonus. PFUnDOR a best though for maximum entertainment. Do it my mans ٩(◕‿◕。)۶ most fun thing I did so far no need to say, but spark of life at ALL TIMES is mandatory against a dozen bosses with spirit attacks at once don't forget that you also have a scroll slot for free already open. USE IT and have something scrolled during all battle, maybe Shadow Veil or Haste, because you will need both at your level/equipment and with scroll you get a bonus and use buff-debuffs (b ᵔ▽ᵔ)b then debuff them again and again and again QUOTE(quitetanky @ Feb 10 2018, 09:17) Exactly. Was. Unlike sleep, that still keeps being useful later, slow is basically waste of AP, and should be refunded not later than at lvl 215 imo
if you are the ppl using builds that do splash damage ☆ ~('▽^人) then slow or blind is okay because enemy don't keep sleeping at all (。-ω-)zzzfor 1H what would you want if you want to survive? to keep taking hits so you counter but to reduce damage, that is! luckly there is a spell that reduces damage... ╰(*´︶`*)╯ -> weaken! -> ╰(*´︶`*)╯ no loss of counter due to slow/blind/sleep/confuse but still get more survival! worth it? if you need it, it is worth it weaken is the lowest mana cost too of those... This post has been edited by reality_marble: Feb 10 2018, 14:04
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Feb 10 2018, 14:08
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quitetanky
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QUOTE instead of being attacked 12 times now you might get attacked 9-11 by putting 3 monster in-peril Monsters certainly sound much more difficult at your level, i'm not sure i'd bother fighting those. Rn i just fine tune difficulty so that after Frenzied blows monsters take two hits max, seems to be good balance between loot and time. Also i don't have all imperil upgrades unlocked at my lvl, but i guess i should consider getting it then (i did plan to use it on tank and mage but not on dw fast clear build). QUOTE Then if you can do TT&TT on PFUDOR, you just keep doing that Why tho? Afaik 2x noodley is better than noodly+some junk.
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Feb 10 2018, 14:18
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(quitetanky @ Feb 10 2018, 13:08) Why tho? Afaik 2x noodley is better than noodly+some junk.
word is you'll have a slightly better clear drop roll. given the difference, personally i'd stick with 2x FSM too.
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Feb 10 2018, 14:24
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(quitetanky @ Feb 10 2018, 10:08) Monsters certainly sound much more difficult at your level
at this level it takes somewhat more time for melee unless you have good forged equipment, but harder? ヾ(  ̄O ̄)ツ no ways! from some point you stop getting defeated at all QUOTE(quitetanky @ Feb 10 2018, 10:08) i did plan to use it on tank and mage but not on dw fast clear build
can't say anything, ┐(︶▽︶)┌ I only played DW for very few times, my light was 2H Estoc... would DW even benefit from imperil except against the school girls? eventually you will have plenty extra AP and probably will not be using any other debuff anyway... imperil is kinda the only debuff you guaranteed use until the endgame
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Feb 10 2018, 14:37
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quitetanky
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QUOTE or 1H what would you want if you want to survive? to keep taking hits so you counter but to reduce damage, that is! Oh... another one of those... "you need to take more hits to take less hits" Monsters that dont attack at all are better for survivability than ones that attack weakly, then have to be blocked or parried for... guess what, for them to not attack for 3 turns. (Same thing with 1h and evade/attack speed: these DO increase survivability, its just you get to do less damage and take more turns to clear.) But i do get it now - if clear speed is needed for 1h weaken is good. Except only if you can be bothered to cast it. Except there is silence. Thanks! edit: by "being bothered to cast it" i mean if you're going for speed, imo survivability shoudn't be an issue to start with (unless you're mage). Either lower difficulty or change equip: casting weaken costs turns and tps. This post has been edited by quitetanky: Feb 10 2018, 14:52
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Feb 10 2018, 15:32
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(quitetanky @ Feb 10 2018, 10:37) Oh... another one of those... "you need to take more hits to take less hits". Monsters that dont attack at all are better for survivability than ones that attack weakly, then have to be blocked or parried for... guess what, for them to not attack for 3 turns
the only use of any debuff apart from imperil is increase survival capacity it does not matter if you are using slow, blind, sleep, confuse, silence or weaken, if you can clear the arena its purpose was done ╮(︶▽︶)╭ in the meta weaken is the only one of those who is objectively working together with 1H so if you are needing just one, why not use it after you can max fast weaken to cast against 3? if you use slow and clear the arena, you are losing clear speed. if you use weaken and clear the arena anyway, then you are profiting ヽ(*・ω・)ノ and mission accomplish, arena cleared the two deprecs that, maxed, have the lowest cast time of all, no cooldown at all, and the lowest base mana cost of all are the weaken (*・∀・)爻(・∀・*) imperil brothers sleep and silence cripple an enemy for a few turns, but if you miss you will have to either wait or take the damage. mindcontrol ability do not reduce cooldown at all meanwhile, missed weaken = another weaken next turn and with a cast time of 0,6 at max, and base mana cost of less than half what sleep costs, you will be taking less hits between that any other possible deprec can give you
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Feb 10 2018, 16:11
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qw3rty67
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I bet ten million credits that both of these dudes will be in here posting about why they're getting their poopers scooped in the near future.
And for the record, with dw and 1h I use nothing, 2h drain if I'm not playing safe, imperil with mace.
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Feb 10 2018, 16:27
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reality_marble
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thing is that eventually no debuff will be needed at all, except imperil
that is why monsters need to be buffed ヽ(*・ω・)ノ
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Feb 10 2018, 16:32
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UnknowDestroyer
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Feb 10 2018, 21:27) that is why monsters need to be buffed ヽ(*・ω・)ノ
Even more chaos upgrade cap. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Feb 10 2018, 16:55
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Feb 10 2018, 15:27) that is why monsters need to be buffed ヽ(*・ω・)ノ
we aren't all masos, you know...
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Feb 10 2018, 21:37
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Feb 10 2018, 15:11) I bet ten million credits that both of these dudes will be in here posting about why they're getting their poopers scooped in the near future.
And for the record, with dw and 1h I use nothing, 2h drain if I'm not playing safe, imperil with mace.
I thought you had a magical method to play 2H? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Feb 10 2018, 22:58
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qw3rty67
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Feb 10 2018, 09:27) monsters need to be buffed ヽ(*・ω・)ノ Add the pfudor speed bonus to iwbth, and bring back enrage for pfudor (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 10 2018, 14:37) I thought you had a magical method to play 2H? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I have an even magical-er method now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I now think mace beats estoc, with heavy gear and caveats. Top end should still be estoc vs longsword.
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Feb 10 2018, 23:06
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KitsuneAbby
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When I got B5F4 on my longsword, I then realized that it's OP5B4 I should get on it... Stupid reflex with 1H weapons. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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