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post Mar 27 2020, 00:50
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QUOTE(Phantom_D @ Mar 26 2020, 22:47) *

is shielding plate obsolete now?why is it so hard to come by?barely see it in store or auctions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Because it's common and nobody actually uses it for anything besides collecting right now. ADB from power armor completely obliterates the defensive value of plate, and you can still get absurdly high defenses as 1H without needing to rely on plate.
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post Mar 27 2020, 00:55
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QUOTE(Phantom_D @ Mar 26 2020, 19:47) *

is shielding plate obsolete now?why is it so hard to come by?barely see it in store or auctions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


It is not obsolete. The point is that this type of equipment is of little use.

Usually you see few because, as there are 8 types of prefixes, the chances are 1/8.

In addition, most players quickly dispose of the equipment, which in turn does not stay in the bazaar for long.

The few you find in stores or auctions are those with a high block. In general, this is a type of equipment for collectors.
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post Mar 27 2020, 05:35
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There is somewhere a table that point out how much Monster Power Level rise with the crystal you give them?

Example:
Fire Mitigation +1 to +10 = Power Level +1
Fire Mitigation +11 to 20 = Power Level +2
Fire Mitigation +12 to 30 = Power Level +2
and so on.

I'm quite sure someone have already done this or at least know the values but i'm unable to find it.

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I have never lloked at it, maybe the value i but are even the right ones.
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post Mar 27 2020, 05:50
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Nope, but here is the formula. Have fun. Or ask again in two months or so when i finally got my ass up and did calculate all those things like i planned a while ago.
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab#Monster....26_Power_Level
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post Mar 27 2020, 06:31
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Wait wait wait... morale drain is affected only by power levels as a whole so 250, 500 and so on.

A monster with PL 755 and another one with PL 800 lose morale at the same rate if they have the same upgrades, right?

If this is right... i'm an idiot.
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post Mar 27 2020, 06:42
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QUOTE(Maharid @ Mar 27 2020, 00:31) *

Wait wait wait... morale drain is affected only by power levels as a whole so 250, 500 and so on.

A monster with PL 755 and another one with PL 800 lose morale at the same rate if they have the same upgrades, right?

If this is right... i'm an idiot.

Morale drain is linear, starting at 250, so PL 800 loses morale at about 37.5% the normal rate, and PL755 loses morale at about 39.5% the normal rate, so PL 800 is a little slower. The upgrades don't make a difference.
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post Mar 27 2020, 06:43
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QUOTE(Maharid @ Mar 27 2020, 04:31) *

Wait wait wait... morale drain is affected only by power levels as a whole so 250, 500 and so on.

A monster with PL 755 and another one with PL 800 lose morale at the same rate if they have the same upgrades, right?

If this is right... i'm an idiot.


jantch is the expert on this but from my understanding: morale drain rate slows down linearly with monster PL, and chaos tokens have not affected morale drain rate for many years.

We recently updated the wiki page to reflect this.
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post Mar 27 2020, 07:26
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Ah ok, i'll work a bit on my main monsters now, thanks.
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post Mar 27 2020, 08:55
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 27 2020, 06:50) *

Because it's common and nobody actually uses it for anything besides collecting right now. ADB from power armor completely obliterates the defensive value of plate, and you can still get absurdly high defenses as 1H without needing to rely on plate.



QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Mar 27 2020, 06:55) *

It is not obsolete. The point is that this type of equipment is of little use.

Usually you see few because, as there are 8 types of prefixes, the chances are 1/8.

In addition, most players quickly dispose of the equipment, which in turn does not stay in the bazaar for long.

The few you find in stores or auctions are those with a high block. In general, this is a type of equipment for collectors.


and what about shield plate+2H play style?how's its survivability and damage output comparing to traditional 1H?trying out something new here,but i suppose it's not good enough as long as i cannot counter with 2H
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post Mar 27 2020, 09:01
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QUOTE(Phantom_D @ Mar 27 2020, 07:55) *

and what about shield plate+2H play style?how's its survivability and damage output comparing to traditional 1H?trying out something new here,but i suppose it's not good enough as long as i cannot counter with 2H

The damage output is just so low - you would expect a 2h weapon without shield to do more damage per turn than a simple rapier or shortsword. But no. 1h can get the extra damage from power armor. I think decondelite tried 2h power, with an incredible strong set of equipment, and... then switched to mage as fast as he could (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It's feasable, it just feels so unfair to be so slow.
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post Mar 27 2020, 09:23
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Correction. Finishing my mage set, which is sure to be rock-solid, has higher priority than sinking credits in something that may or may not be good.
I haven't given up with it. I just need more time and credits.

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post Mar 27 2020, 10:11
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 27 2020, 15:01) *

The damage output is just so low - you would expect a 2h weapon without shield to do more damage per turn than a simple rapier or shortsword. But no. 1h can get the extra damage from power armor. I think decondelite tried 2h power, with an incredible strong set of equipment, and... then switched to mage as fast as he could (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It's feasable, it just feels so unfair to be so slow.

who is running the HV sector exactly? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) nerf mage
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post Mar 28 2020, 09:08
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i'm hitting lv 250 soon and i have 10 tokens of blood, should i play it safe and do triple trio and the tree on easy for the credits?
i am using wakizashi+shield+light armors
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post Mar 28 2020, 09:44
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QUOTE(Renkanalla @ Mar 28 2020, 07:08) *

i'm hitting lv 250 soon and i have 10 tokens of blood, should i play it safe and do triple trio and the tree on easy for the credits?
i am using wakizashi+shield+light armors

Yes. You'll have plenty of time to fiish it at a higher difficulty later.
Not to mention that you won't likely do it again anyway, unless you become a hardcore grinder.
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post Mar 28 2020, 20:29
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I have some extra btc on my e verse wallet, is there a way to transfer them out or onto another players account. How do selling stars work, is there a way to do some kind of CoD on stars or would one of us have to send it first.
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post Mar 28 2020, 20:42
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QUOTE(tedd c @ Mar 28 2020, 19:29) *

I have some extra btc on my e verse wallet, is there a way to transfer them out or onto another players account. How do selling stars work, is there a way to do some kind of CoD on stars or would one of us have to send it first.

No. There is no actual BTC on that wallet, it's just 'the amount still available for donating or adopting a server' . The real BTC are already in the possession of Tenb. Those 'BTC leftovers' will never leave your e-hentai account.

Star selling works, by first getting the credits, and then after that sending the BTC. And, only, ONLY, send to the automatically generated PM that was sent by the e-h system. That way, it's all within the e-h site, and any dispute can be corrected by admin.
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post Mar 28 2020, 20:49
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Got, it thanks!
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post Mar 29 2020, 12:17
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 19 2020, 17:57) *

Ubershank linked the wiki section; it is important to note that these are the rules as written in a concise manner, but players should not struggle to interpret them. If it is not immediately clear whether something is okay or not, please ask first!

Though, you're really not likely to be able to do anything meaningful editing Monsterbation unless you have a decent understanding of javascript.

i wonder how many remember there are some hints on script thread as well, btw
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post Mar 29 2020, 14:39
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You're saying that as if we weren't already accustomed to the numerous players who don't understand the words "no, don't do that", "Monsterbation is already doing the very maximum you're allowed to do" and just won't listen to us.

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post Mar 30 2020, 13:50
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Some math work here. I'm at Assimilator 12. To go from Assimilator 12 to 13 would be about 1.7m credits and would be about a 4.5% improvement (220% to 230%). I have Thinking Cap and full training, which I think is supposed to give me 425% exp gain. If I get Mentats Hath Perk, which would be about 1.8m credits at current hath rates, that would be about 5.8% increase in prof gain since its based off experience gain (425% to 450%). Just checking, is my math rate or am I overlooking something in how these systems work? Otherwise, it would seem Mentats is currently much better for value now.

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