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post Mar 22 2020, 13:00
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QUOTE(Bolide @ Mar 22 2020, 10:24) *

Hi experts,

I noticed that there were legendary charged cotton * of the Curse-weaver in auctions, but I was told that curse-weaver suffix armors should be salvaged by some experienced players before.

So I'm confused about what the "curse-weaver" equipments used for?
Should the charged/frugal/plain curse-weaver equipments be auctioned or salvaged or used(for what fight style)?

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The short version: unless you are very, very, very sure, do not use them.

Long version: depending on an absolute ton of variables (mage element, the quality of your curse-weaver piece, your deprecating base prof, your DD level, quality of alternative pieces... etc) some small turn savings can be made in grindfests by optimising your imperil count.

My current setup involves using curse-weaver shoes along with elementalist gloves. At my base prof, I am able to reach a bit over >0.79 prof factor this way, and I just about hit deprecating 1.0.

For me, this means I save about 50-100 turns per fest compared to using my charged mjolnir shoes. However, I have tested this extensively.

For reference: the rest of my gear is a PSWD, radiant cap, charged robe, radiant pants, and these are my prof gloves.

When I was DD2, it was roughly comparable either way. No strong result either way. At DD6, it favours the setup with a curse-weaver piece. I project that at higher DD levels it will continue to do so, but there is another important factor to note:

Currentely, my base depr prof is just enough for me to hit 1.0 with this setup. But going over 1.0 is wasteful - you get nothing extra from it. So if my base prof were higher, I'd be getting a comparatively smaller benefit from the shoes, compared to just using a regular setup. Very high prof players (590+) will probably find that it swings back in favour of regular shoes again.

Also worth noting that this is with extremely excellent shoes all-round - near lmax proficiency, high evade, high agility, solid int/wis. A weaker piece would not bring the same benefit.

Finally to note - it might be worth considering shoes or gloves in some very specific circumstances, but all other curse-weaver slots are too wasteful and not recommended.

In short: it might apply that there are some cases where curse-weaver is a very small optimisation in grindfest (and IW) if you are elec/wind, with high enough damage that imperil is the dominant part of your turn-counts. It is not viable for 3+2 holy/dark (holy imperil is miserable anyway). It might be viable for a 3+1+1 dark setup using robe at very very high base prof. Fire/cold I cannot guarantee its worth (you'll have lower EDB than elec/wind and would likely lose too much damage except maybe at DD9).

This is a messy post, sorry if it's a bit confusing.
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post Mar 22 2020, 13:11
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Hello, I wanna ask if exist a market for people with lv 100 or near, most market have too powerful items which I can't even use
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post Mar 22 2020, 13:15
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Hello, I wanna ask if exist a market for people with lv 100 or near, most market have too powerful items which I can't even use


The closest you will get to this is decondelite's auctions, his shop, and the FreeSHop, all of which are targetted towards lower-level items. However most of these are in the 200-400 range.

At level 100 you are still able to level up very, very quickly, and the game is not very hard yet. You can survive entirely on self-drops without issue (drop the difficulty a little if it's too hard). You will be in the mid-late 200s in no time at all, and then you will have access to items you can soulfuse (if they're worth it, and you're desperate for an upgrade).
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post Mar 22 2020, 13:35
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Hi all,

I'm going to try the The Trio and the Tree arena for the very first time.

I use 1H shortsword (of slaughter, void, cold), shield, and shade armor. I don't intend to swap out my current equipment just for this arena. My battle slots include Health Draught, Mana Draught, Health Potion, Mana Potion, Spirit Potion, and Scroll of the Gods.

I play random encounters on PFUDOR, but intend to go Normal level for this arena.

Do any of you have tips or suggestions that I can use with my setup before I set forth? Going 100 rounds will take a significant amount of time, and I don't want to screw things up on the very last round.

Thanks in advance for your advice!
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post Mar 22 2020, 13:48
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QUOTE(meow_pao @ Mar 22 2020, 11:35) *

Hi all,

I'm going to try the The Trio and the Tree arena for the very first time.

I use 1H shortsword (of slaughter, void, cold), shield, and shade armor. I don't intend to swap out my current equipment just for this arena. My battle slots include Health Draught, Mana Draught, Health Potion, Mana Potion, Spirit Potion, and Scroll of the Gods.

I play random encounters on PFUDOR, but intend to go Normal level for this arena.

Do any of you have tips or suggestions that I can use with my setup before I set forth? Going 100 rounds will take a significant amount of time, and I don't want to screw things up on the very last round.

Thanks in advance for your advice!


On normal mode you should find it trivial, if you're capable of doing PF REs.
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post Mar 22 2020, 13:58
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QUOTE(meow_pao @ Mar 22 2020, 12:35) *

Hi all,

I'm going to try the The Trio and the Tree arena for the very first time.

I use 1H shortsword (of slaughter, void, cold), shield, and shade armor. I don't intend to swap out my current equipment just for this arena. My battle slots include Health Draught, Mana Draught, Health Potion, Mana Potion, Spirit Potion, and Scroll of the Gods.

I play random encounters on PFUDOR, but intend to go Normal level for this arena.

Do any of you have tips or suggestions that I can use with my setup before I set forth? Going 100 rounds will take a significant amount of time, and I don't want to screw things up on the very last round.

Thanks in advance for your advice!


at your level, it may be wise to find some power armors instead of shade armors. Shade will slow you down when you play 1h. But yes, I am sure you can manage T&T at normal, because that's very easy. Get a mix of power of protection and power of warding, and you'll be able to go to higher difficulties. If you then get a good shield and good shortsword of slaughter, and use imperil on the monsters, then you may even breeze through PFUDOR.
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post Mar 22 2020, 16:55
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Thanks for the advice, lestion and DJNoni!

It went much easier than I expected (even for the Normal setting), but that's most likely because I used Bubble-Gum for the final round. With it, I went straight for Silence and Imperil, followed by Flames of Loki to get the Searing Skin effect in order to get the most out of the Arctic Shortsword I was using.

Again, thanks a lot for your help!
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post Mar 22 2020, 18:20
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My Orbital Friendship Cannon skill is gone, I had the skill just an hour ago, and nothing has changed. On wiki it says These must be kept in the player's inventory - not offered at the shrine. (It may take up to one day to become available.) - do i need to have them at all times to be able to use the skill? I had less than 21 for a while now and have been using the skill.
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post Mar 22 2020, 18:27
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QUOTE(tedd c @ Mar 22 2020, 13:20) *

My Orbital Friendship Cannon skill is gone, I had the skill just an hour ago, and nothing has changed. On wiki it says These must be kept in the player's inventory - not offered at the shrine. (It may take up to one day to become available.) - do i need to have them at all times to be able to use the skill? I had less than 21 for a while now and have been using the skill.


Yes, you must keep all 21 in your inventory (forever) if you want to use OFC.

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post Mar 22 2020, 19:42
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Mar 20 2020, 22:31) *

503 error hit again. The fuck.

May as well IW during this time.

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What extension is that? I'd also like to see all the results from an IW/Arena.
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post Mar 22 2020, 19:58
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I have a couple questions; any suggestions are appreciated!

1) At what point should I start upgrading power armor/shield/rapier with materials, and what are the best attributes to upgrade? I'm relatively poor, so I'm looking for the best value/credit.

2) Should I be aiming to buy a Force Shield of Dampening with SDE? Crushing seems to hit awfully hard, but I don't know if it's better to just go with Force Shield of Protection.

3) If I'm just doing IW or Arena, is it worth getting a different rapier element? Fire doesn't seem to do a lot in comparison to other elements.

4) Should I be going for Power Armor of Slaughter even if super expensive for the damage increase? I still have to cure sometimes and be safe when doing IWBTH IW or PFUDOR Arena at higher rounds with 3 power armor of protection/2 power armor of warding. I'm aiming to do most IW/Arena without any buffs other than an infusion and featherweight charms for a bit more evade.



My level 400 planned gear is below:

Fiery Rapier of Slaughter
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/161027797/120f9fe4c0

Force Shield of Protection/Warding
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/223346886/4f9063187e or https://hentaiverse.org/equip/225858534/cffec0cee0

Power Helmet of Protection
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/204428803/dc95678e54

Power Armor of Balance
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/216983300/df5ed74f76

Power Gauntlets of Warding
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/209097991/0937a2448f

Power Leggings of Protection
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/161519735/98cc7b54ef

Power Boots of Warding
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/162778975/086c9a89df

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post Mar 22 2020, 20:24
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QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Mar 22 2020, 18:42) *

What extension is that? I'd also like to see all the results from an IW/Arena.

Monsterbation.

QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Mar 22 2020, 18:58) *

1) At what point should I start upgrading power armor/shield/rapier with materials, and what are the best attributes to upgrade? I'm relatively poor, so I'm looking for the best value/credit.
I would say start right away. If you are only able to do one upgrade per week, well that is still one upgrade more as you have now. That depends, when you have problems with your survivability, i would suggest to upgrade parry and dex of your weapon, block on your shield, and on your armor concentrade on End, PM and MM, but upgrade elemental mitigation or Slash/Pierc/Crush Mitigation isnt the worst idea. If you have no problems with that but you want to have a faster clear speed, damage, crit chance, Str and Dex are your friends.

QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Mar 22 2020, 18:42) *

2) Should I be aiming to buy a Force Shield of Dampening with SDE? Crushing seems to hit awfully hard, but I don't know if it's better to just go with Force Shield of Protection.
Imo the prefix of a shield is not that important. Any SDE force shield with decent block would do the job just fine. If you really think you lack crush mitigation, upgrade it on your armor.
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3) If I'm just doing IW or Arena, is it worth getting a different rapier element? Fire doesn't seem to do a lot in comparison to other elements.
The difference between the different elements is not as big as one would think. Of course another element would be better, but when you are really poor, i wouldnt suggest to get another weapon just for the element. Only when you actually get one with better stats.

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4) Should I be going for Power Armor of Slaughter even if super expensive for the damage increase? I still have to cure sometimes and be safe when doing IWBTH IW or PFUDOR Arena at higher rounds with 3 power armor of protection/2 power armor of warding. I'm aiming to do most IW/Arena without any buffs other than an infusion and featherweight charms for a bit more evade.
Well the first question is, did you allready reach the point that arenas no longer can harm you? If not, why would you want for a lot of credits weaken your defenses even more? And even if you are allready able to easy clear all arenas, would you really want to pay a shit tone of credits for a little damage boost when you did allready ask the question about upgrading your equipment at all? I would say, dont do it. In your case it is just not worth it. Upgrade your equipment, there is allready so much to improve. Without your needing to pay multiple M for a single near piece of equipment. And imo your planned equipment is fine. Tbh it is even better as what i did use at level 400. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 22 2020, 20:35
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QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Mar 22 2020, 18:42) *

What extension is that? I'd also like to see all the results from an IW/Arena.
Monsterbation script, works with add-on Tampermonkey


QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Mar 22 2020, 18:58) *

I have a couple questions; any suggestions are appreciated!

1) At what point should I start upgrading power armor/shield/rapier with materials, and what are the best attributes to upgrade? I'm relatively poor, so I'm looking for the best value/credit.

2) Should I be aiming to buy a Force Shield of Dampening with SDE? Crushing seems to hit awfully hard, but I don't know if it's better to just go with Force Shield of Protection.

3) If I'm just doing IW or Arena, is it worth getting a different rapier element? Fire doesn't seem to do a lot in comparison to other elements.

4) Should I be going for Power Armor of Slaughter even if super expensive for the damage increase? I still have to cure sometimes and be safe when doing IWBTH IW or PFUDOR Arena at higher rounds with 3 power armor of protection/2 power armor of warding. I'm aiming to do most IW/Arena without any buffs other than an infusion and featherweight charms for a bit more evade.


1. at your level, it is worth-while to forge your good equips. And it's almost always a good idea to forge equipment to 5. You should definitely forge the shit out of that rapier!

2. No dude, dampening is not worth it. Only stat you should worry about is block. So use that Warding shield, please. Next thing to look at, but far less important, is 'SDE'. Both your shields are SDE. And good strength as well! Hard choice between those 2 shields... Maybe the protection is better, because of the high DEX. So. Choose one and sell the other. But don't buy yet another shield.

3. Only for Schoolgirl arena's (the last 3), hallowed or demonic would be better. But, same effect can be achieved by using infusion of darkness and infusion of hallowedness (what's it called again) on your current rapier. So no, don't replace it.

4. You can invest in Slaughter gear, but for now the best improvement will come from forging your gear.

Oh, I see that those gears are your planned gears... yeah you are going to need a lot of soul shards.
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post Mar 22 2020, 20:45
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Any working script that shows a potion sign can you can just hover over to heal you, and is it possible to program Monsterbation script or another script that can cast OFC/imperil when able on a enemy and then attack, or would i have to program button/keys to do it?

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post Mar 22 2020, 20:51
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QUOTE(tedd c @ Mar 22 2020, 19:45) *

Any working script that shows a potion sign can you can just hover over to heal you, and is it possible to program Monsterbation script or another script that can cast OFC/imperil when able on a enemy and then attack, or would i have to program button/keys to do it?
Yeah no, i am quite such things are forbidden, monsterbation is the max of what 10bo is willing to tolerate.
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post Mar 22 2020, 21:01
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QUOTE(tedd c @ Mar 22 2020, 18:45) *

Any working script that shows a potion sign can you can just hover over to heal you, and is it possible to program Monsterbation script or another script that can cast OFC/imperil when able on a enemy and then attack, or would i have to program button/keys to do it?


The latter would be forbidden ('when able' - ie, making the decision on what to do on your behalf).

The former should be feasible as long as the button is consistently in the same place all the time and always clickable, but no, Monsterbation (nor any other script) currently do hover-pressing any buttons.
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post Mar 22 2020, 21:11
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Ok, i recall there was such a potion script years ago, maybe i was mistaken.
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post Mar 22 2020, 21:13
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QUOTE(tedd c @ Mar 22 2020, 20:11) *

Ok, i recall there was such a potion script years ago, maybe i was mistaken.

there was. It's not here anymore, for a reason. You risk getting banned for using such a script now.
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post Mar 22 2020, 21:27
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Gotcha, thanks!
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post Mar 23 2020, 02:56
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QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Mar 22 2020, 10:58) *

I have a couple questions; any suggestions are appreciated!

If you want more survivability, I suggest looking into IW Jug 5 only on the gauntlets, because those rolls are pretty damn good on a non-Armor of Slaughter piece and you won't need to replace those anytime soon.
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