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Or is Uncle wrong (and must be ...... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) ?

You never even once thought of just trusting me? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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You never even once thought of just trusting me? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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that's an old tv show! What was that called, I can't remember. Wasn't Police Squad, was it?

that's an old tv show! What was that called, I can't remember. Wasn't Police Squad, was it?

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What's a suitable holy mage build for beating schoolgirl arena at PFUDOR difficulty? At least I'd like to know what MDB% and EDB% are enough for a LHOH staff, now I've saved some credits to at least fetch a decent staff to get started. My elec build is good, but I want to save more time.

What's a suitable holy mage build for beating schoolgirl arena at PFUDOR difficulty?

Tbh SG arenas are for school girl the easiest arenas you can do as mage. Just get a decend staff with decend IW a 3+2 armor set and you are ready to go.

At least I'd like to know what MDB% and EDB% are enough for a LHOH staff, now I've saved some credits to at least fetch a decent staff to get started. My elec build is good, but I want to save more time.

Not that much, i made my first SG arena just a few days ago. Actually only by mistake because i did still feel very weak, because i wasnt able to clear the 30 rounds arena without triggering SoL at least once. And that was with let me check, 3756 MDB and 341.5% EDB. And thinking how easy that in the end was, i would say it should be possible to do it with even less. And for been faster is easy, get prof factor 1.0, get more EDB get more MDB.

Monsters get stronger as you level up. So does your equipment, if it's soulfused. Everyone is affected by this.

I mean, weren't mages damage factor comes from mdb and edb, both also scales? Weren't they supposed to fare much better as they level compared to melee?

I mean, weren't mages damage factor comes from mdb and edb, both also scales? Weren't they supposed to fare much better as they level compared to melee?

No. It's more like melee suffers more from mitigation and HP scaling than mages, and it's mostly very high level players who can afford to forge their gear seriously.

I mean, weren't mages damage factor comes from mdb and edb, both also scales? Weren't they supposed to fare much better as they level compared to melee?

All melee stats also scale - but yes, melee suffers more at high levels due to damage not scaling as well as monster health. Mage damage matches monster health scaling much closer.

Though, for low level mages, the problem is not so much damage as much as it is surviving... with less experience to spend on PABs (lower endurance in particular), and less access to abilities, in particular.

Plus, lower level mages tend not to have access to the resources required to make mage particularly good: extensive forging and quite a few hath perks. Disregarding the quality of the equipment pieces altogether.

edit: ultimately, at the very high end of damage, it is not really the fault of the stats but the damage delivery mechanisms. One hand imperil players can kill monsters in very few hits (2-4, I believe, with shortsword)... but this is still only up to 4 monsters hit at a time, with maximum counter attacks every turn. Mages can hit a minimum of 5, up to 10, depending on the spell. This is where the speed is gained.

This post has been edited by lestion: Mar 16 2020, 11:39

One hand imperil players can kill monsters in very few hits (2-4, I believe, with shortsword)

I can do the same without imperil with my rapier. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

What's a suitable holy mage build for beating schoolgirl arena at PFUDOR difficulty? At least I'd like to know what MDB% and EDB% are enough for a LHOH staff, now I've saved some credits to at least fetch a decent staff to get started. My elec build is good, but I want to save more time.

You can create a equip set only for SG. For schoolgirls, you don't need high proficiency for holy or dark! I use 0.55 prof factor, which means no proficiency cotton at all! Full radiant is the fastest against schoolgirls. Every bit of MDB or EDB that you can get will make your SG play faster. Nice, huh? Expensive, but nice. Expensive, because you can't use that 5+0 build for arena's or IW or PFFEST! So yeah, you'll need more than one set.

Expensive, because you can't use that 5+0 build for arena's or IW or PFFEST!

This is the second time i heard of 5+0. But i am still not conviced this is actually a thing.

You never even once thought of just trusting me? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Sorry Uncle, but ...

Doubting everything and everyone is the essential tool of science (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

This is the second time i heard of 5+0. But i am still not conviced this is actually a thing.

If you check the stats of the Schoolgirls, you will find that they don't have high defense against holy or dark. That means, that if you play with imperil, you don't need 0.8 prof factor. And because they are so tanky, every bit of Magic Score will significantly reduce turn count. That's why specifically for SG, it helps to have low prof factor (yes the early rounds without SG are a bit tedious, although most of them die in one shot after imperil). This is not a thing outside of SG arena's.

For instance, I can kill off DWD in <1600 turns this way.

This is the second time i heard of 5+0. But i am still not conviced this is actually a thing.

Doesn't even need to be dark/holy. Wind works too. Probably any element does if you have good enough equipment.

Here is the 5+0 set I still use for schoolgirls. I also finish DwD in around 1600 turns using this set.

Sorry Uncle, but ...

Doubting everything and everyone is the essential tool of science (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

You did see my flamethrower? How much more Scientistic can one possible be?


And yeah i have read both your post, but am still not convinced. I mean i was told once that even 1H would need SoL or at least scrolls to survive the last rounds of PFest and that turned out to be wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Doesn't even need to be dark/holy. Wind works too. Probably any element does if you have good enough equipment.

Here is the 5+0 set I still use for schoolgirls. I also finish DwD in around 1600 turns using this set.

mystic might work as well by the way. It may work for elemental, but dark and holy would be much faster. <1500 turns.

Speaking of schoolgirls, does Scavenger increase trophy drop rate or not?

Nevermind, misread, its static 10%.

This post has been edited by RibbonsCan: Mar 17 2020, 07:48

Thanks, never thought of 5+0 set, although I've never cast any holy spell so my prof might be too low. Really hoping to see a LHOH on this week's auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Is Capacitor that big of a deal for Cloth IW potencies? I've got a few pieces that I'll be able to start equipping soon at LV500 (I could equip them now, but I don't want to Soulbind them), and I was curious. Does that +10% MP per Cloth with LV5 Capacitor make a big difference compared to 20% more mitigation against an element of magic?

Is Capacitor that big of a deal for Cloth IW potencies? I've got a few pieces that I'll be able to start equipping soon at LV500 (I could equip them now, but I don't want to Soulbind them), and I was curious. Does that +10% MP per Cloth with LV5 Capacitor make a big difference compared to 20% more mitigation against an element of magic?

I recently reforged my Jug5Cap5 robe, just to get rid of the cap5. I had used it for a long time, and it does nothing for me. On the other hand, the elemental mitigation is actually a bit useful in PFFEST.

Capacitor can be used to maximize the effect of elixirs. But that effect is limited, and using elixirs is more expensive than using draughts + potions. I didn't like it a bit. Okay it may save a couple of turns, but the mitigation is more valuable as it helps to survive.