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post Feb 2 2020, 12:12
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QUOTE(BL.Kunkka @ Feb 2 2020, 11:05) *

No "beat him to dead with a stick" means I just normal attack them, not casting any spell.
You do normals attacks but ask for advice about time optimization? Well my advice is, stop that. A mage shouldnt even think of doing physical attacks.
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post Feb 2 2020, 12:36
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 2 2020, 17:12) *

You do normals attacks but ask for advice about time optimization? Well my advice is, stop that. A mage shouldnt even think of doing physical attacks.


I only[i][u] use this tactic in PFUDOR IW, which often takes 20 minutes to clear 90 rounds.
The hardest difficulty I find comfortable to play with in Legendary IW is Nightmare, which takes 8 minutes.
For a soulfused equipment, first method generates 2*pxp/minute, while the other is 1*pxp/minute.

Point is, those are niche situations. I asked for Monsterbation setup advice to optimize time for general play, which I do daily. IW is only once in a while.
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post Feb 2 2020, 13:16
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QUOTE(BL.Kunkka @ Feb 2 2020, 10:36) *

I only[i][u] use this tactic in PFUDOR IW, which often takes 20 minutes to clear 90 rounds.
The hardest difficulty I find comfortable to play with in Legendary IW is Nightmare, which takes 8 minutes.
For a soulfused equipment, first method generates 2*pxp/minute, while the other is 1*pxp/minute.

Point is, those are niche situations. I asked for Monsterbation setup advice to optimize time for general play, which I do daily. IW is only once in a while.

If you have got to resort bonking heads with your staff, casting Weaken, Silence or other weird oddity that cripples your clear times... Then sorry but...

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/4OnL5zR.jpg)

The general goal of maging is to go fast, not to be just as slow as 1H for a way higher cost.
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post Feb 2 2020, 13:35
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Things got derailed pretty fast. But thanks for the suggestions.
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post Feb 2 2020, 16:36
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Hello,

with nearly 3500 hath should I go for Crystarium III + Tokenizer II, wait until I get 4000 hath and get Dæmon Duality II or are there better things I can get?
I mostly do arenas, sometimes item world and grindfest rarely.
I am a holy mage with decent equipment.

Thanks for the answers/suggestions.
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post Feb 2 2020, 16:52
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In your case i would say Crys II and Token II sounds like a solid longterm investion. DD II on the other hand, when you mostly just play arena, do you care enough about your clearing speed to spend that many hath while you still have other things you could go for?
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post Feb 2 2020, 18:20
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Hi there! I'm grinding my daily areas up to trio and the tree on normal/hard. As a result I'm constantly straddling the 80 stamina threshold. Does the double exp bonus affect random encounters? If it does, is it worth going under 80 stamina to get all my daily clears?
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post Feb 2 2020, 18:48
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QUOTE(Darksword696 @ Feb 2 2020, 16:20) *

Hi there! I'm grinding my daily areas up to trio and the tree on normal/hard. As a result I'm constantly straddling the 80 stamina threshold. Does the double exp bonus affect random encounters? If it does, is it worth going under 80 stamina to get all my daily clears?

afaik your stamina level affects all exp gained, from all battle modes, inc. RE's
As for whether going lower or not is worth it, there's different thoughts on that. Some people purposely avoid exp bonuses to stay as low level as possible to hopefully drop items that sell well at low level, but don't at high level (high level items usually have to have better rolls, and much more specific on prefixes/suffixes to sell well). Not saying this is a good or bad idea, I never did it so can't really say, just wanted to let you know in case your goal for grinding is for credits. If it's for both credits & to level, some of the lower level arena's probably aren't worth doing.
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post Feb 2 2020, 19:01
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QUOTE(Darksword696 @ Feb 2 2020, 17:20) *

Hi there! I'm grinding my daily areas up to trio and the tree on normal/hard. As a result I'm constantly straddling the 80 stamina threshold. Does the double exp bonus affect random encounters? If it does, is it worth going under 80 stamina to get all my daily clears?


If you don't play a lot, it does not matter much. Depends on what you hope to achieve with playing HV, what goals you set for yourself.

If you have the time and motivation, clearing all daily arena's is a nice way to get credits. You can save up for the LBGTI perk (long gone before daylight it's called iirc). Then one ED per day does it, and you'll gain more per day if you train some levels of archeologist
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post Feb 7 2020, 09:27
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at what level do you need to be to sell good equipment and how to tell which is good and which is bad is it by quality?, or is it by stats?
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post Feb 7 2020, 09:48
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at what level do you need to be to sell good equipment and how to tell which is good and which is bad is it by quality?, or is it by stats?

Easiest way: you can check the WTB rules and auction rules of decondelite, and the auction rules of Superlatanium. If it is not on those lists, it is probably not valuable.

If you want to do it yourself, you need to understand which equipment is useful and which isn't. And then install a script, live percental ranges, to evaluate the stats.

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post Feb 7 2020, 10:03
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QUOTE(_Ash_ @ Feb 7 2020, 07:27) *

at what level do you need to be to sell good equipment and how to tell which is good and which is bad is it by quality?, or is it by stats?


This is a big question and the answer is complex.

There is no level requirement to be able to sell equipment - in fact, lower level equipment is sometimes preferred (by other low level players). This can add a small amount to the value (though it won't add too much, because low level players still need to be able to afford it...)

How to tell what's good and what's bad - there's not really a quick and easy way to learn. It depends on prefix, equipment type, and suffix. In modern Hentaiverse, all of these must 'match' on high-level equipment for it to be able to sell for more than a very small amount. Equipment lower than level 400 can be sellable with less optimal setups.

Super's auction (for high level equipment guidelines) or decondelite's (for low & mid level items) both have extensive guidelines for what they will accept as submissions, which may be a quick guide to what can be sold.

As a brief run down of some of the reasons why certain equipment is useful...

This page on the wiki has lots of information about prefixes and suffixes, which can be useful to look at when you are thinking about whether your legendary drop is good. In general, both the prefix and the suffix matter. I will not give a full list of which prefixes and suffixes are good, and which items they might be good on.

However, I will give a few guidelines:

- Not all mage staffs have every element on them naturally. A 'matching' staff is one that has a prefix (ie fiery, giving fire spell damage) that is also present naturally on that staff (for example, fiery matches with redwood and oak). Suffixes should generally be destruction, elementalist or one that adds to the same type of spell damage as the prefix & staff type. Exception: fire and cold are not present on willow staffs naturally, but for imperil, Fiery/Arctic Willow of Destruction is still preferable because it massively reduces the amount of imperil resists you will face.

- Mage armor falls into two categories: cotton, which is used for proficiency (Elementalist, Heaven-Sent, Demon-Fiend), and phase, which is used for spell damage (all suffixes useful). Their high value prefixes are Radiant or Charged, but any prefix can be marketable at lower levels, or if the important stats roll extremely highly. Mystic can occasionally attract a buyer (it's actually very good for entry-level mage, but some of the forum dinosaurs are dead against it because radiant scales up better with high upgrade levels).

- One handed weapon prefixes do not matter too much (the burden on them can be mostly offset by featherweight charms, if not completely) but the suffix and type are very important, and it is important to know what styles use them. One-hand players tend to use a rapier or shortsword of slaughter. Dual wield use club of slaughter, rapier of slaughter, rapier of balance, wakizashi of the nimble (depending on what type of content they are facing). Niten Ichiryu use wakizashis of balance or of the nimble.

- Two handed weapons above level ~300 are generally undesirable if they are not Ethereal, due to the high burden on them. They are almost never purchased unless they have the slaughter suffix. There are not many two handed players beyond this level and it may be difficult to sell them unless the rolls are spectacular.

- All leather armor and non-shielding-prefix plate is valueless above level 300. (It will be very difficult to sell at ANY level, although it is perfectly valid to use them when you are low level - they are just not highly desirable to spend credits on for most people.)

- Shade armor must generally have either shadowdancer suffix, or savage prefix, to be sellable beyond a certain level. At low level, all shade is sellable.

- All power armor is viable, but protection and warding do not command a high price (although they do sell, especially with savage prefix or high rolls). You will find beyond level 400, protection and warding are generally no longer attracting even minimum bid.

- All peerless equipment will sell - it just might not get very much, if it's not useful to anyone.

Some of these guidelines may be tainted by my opinions, and you should do your own research. It is not a comprehensive list of every valuable item. I really recommend checking auctions weekly and seeing the prices things sell for to get a better feel for that - but it'll take time to learn.

Also, as Noni said before me... install Live Percentile Ranges, it helps get an idea for how much money a valuable item is worth (but whether an item is valuable to begin with depends on the factors I've mentioned: prefix, type, suffix, and sometimes even which slot it goes in, for mage gear).

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post Feb 7 2020, 21:28
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I have 250 hats, which perk is more advisable to buy the experience one, or the one that duplicates the crystals?

Also, I can already buy 1000 hats, which of the perks is more advisable to buy from all those worth 1000?
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post Feb 7 2020, 21:37
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I have 250 hats, which perk is more advisable to buy the experience one, or the one that duplicates the crystals?

Also, I can already buy 1000 hats, which of the perks is more advisable to buy from all those worth 1000?

it depends on your goals and play style.

If you want to play mage, 1000 hath is needed for the proficiency perk.
If you want to play imperil, 1000 hath is best spent on the deprecating proficiency perk
If you have monster, tokenizer I is nice for 1000 hath

Never buy suff.spirit, and also inate arcana 5 is something to get only when you've nothing better to buy.

for 250, crystal perk is nice - if you play grindfest. Exp perk is very nice, only if you are grinding exp and want to level up fast. You should not get that before finishing exp training though.

DD1 is also a very nice perk to have.
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post Feb 7 2020, 22:45
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Feb 7 2020, 19:28) *

I have 250 hats, which perk is more advisable to buy the experience one, or the one that duplicates the crystals?

Also, I can already buy 1000 hats, which of the perks is more advisable to buy from all those worth 1000?


At the speed you play it I would imagine you're just doing arenas, possibly just schoolgirl ones - do not bother with crystarium unless you are doing lots of grindfests.

In your case, I think you should consider Tokenizer I, to help unlock monster slots, or - if you're not finishing all arenas - DD1, which will cut down the time it takes, and allow you to do more with the same time.
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post Feb 7 2020, 23:18
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QUOTE(lestion @ Feb 7 2020, 23:45) *

At the speed you play it I would imagine you're just doing arenas, possibly just schoolgirl ones - do not bother with crystarium unless you are doing lots of grindfests.

In your case, I think you should consider Tokenizer I, to help unlock monster slots, or - if you're not finishing all arenas - DD1, which will cut down the time it takes, and allow you to do more with the same time.


But DD1 cost 2000 hats, no 1000 hats.
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post Feb 7 2020, 23:20
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Feb 7 2020, 22:18) *

But DD1 cost 2000 hats, no 1000 hats.

yeah I know. But still worth it.
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post Feb 7 2020, 23:50
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Feb 7 2020, 23:18) *

But DD1 cost 2000 hats, no 1000 hats.


Save for DD1, it's worth it.

And you should invest in the first 3 levels of Innate Arcana if you don't have them. As a priority.

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post Feb 8 2020, 01:40
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I don't know where to ask this, so I ask here.

In the last 2 days I have obtained 2 more pairs of legendary-grade power boots, I wanted to see if someone exchanged a legendary-grade power helmet for any of those 2 boots. I put an ad on WTB or what I do? I say more than anything because the last thing I need to have a full set of legendary grade power is a Legendary-grade power helmet.

Here the boots in question:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/221493421/62e60d79ec
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/220485146/b2c0f03e3f

I ask for something of the same value, no more or less, and that they are below the level I am currently in, but if they are at my level even better.

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post Feb 8 2020, 09:00
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Feb 8 2020, 00:40) *

I don't know where to ask this, so I ask here.

In the last 2 days I have obtained 2 more pairs of legendary-grade power boots, I wanted to see if someone exchanged a legendary-grade power helmet for any of those 2 boots. I put an ad on WTB or what I do? I say more than anything because the last thing I need to have a full set of legendary grade power is a Legendary-grade power helmet.

Here the boots in question:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/221493421/62e60d79ec
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/220485146/b2c0f03e3f

I ask for something of the same value, no more or less, and that they are below the level I am currently in, but if they are at my level even better.


you do that in the WTB, by making a [WTT] thread. Something like: "[WTT] your Leg. Power helmet for my Leg. Power Boots"

But in my experience, this won't get much response. It's faster for everybody to just sell what you want to sell and buy what you want to buy. Why should it necessarily be the same person who wants your shoes and who wants to sell a nice helmet? Experts advice: don't do it the hard way when you can do it the easy way.
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