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Feb 1 2020, 17:38
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 1 2020, 16:31)  yes, i tried my best to organize it decently...
Well, maybe it would help if you would write instead of QUOTE My script contributions (Excel spreadsheets, actually): just QUOTE Spreadsheets
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Feb 1 2020, 18:15
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 1 2020, 16:38)  Well, maybe it would help if you would write instead of just
technically those contributed to develop the scripts people are using nowadays, so, uh... not that incorrect to call them "script contributions". though i wonder whether i should open a thread of mine or not (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) i've always wanted to open a thread. i could open a thread and call it "hey, i opened a thread!" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 1 2020, 18:16
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Feb 1 2020, 18:16
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 29-January 12

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 1 2020, 16:15)  technically those contributed to develop the scripts people are using nowadays, so, uh... not that incorrect to call them "script contributions". though i wonder whether i should open a thread of mine or not (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I think when there's repeated blocks of text & links it just kinda blends in together and it gets super easy to gloss over without really seeing anything... Maybe colour code some of it? Or bold the headers?
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Feb 1 2020, 18:18
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 1 2020, 17:15)  technically those contributed to develop the scripts people are using nowadays, so, uh... not that incorrect to call them "script contributions". though i wonder whether i should open a thread of mine or not (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) You know that the full truth and easy to understand isnt the same, right? People are lazy. So when they "read" script contributions, they read is script and when they search for spreadsheets, they wont find any in your signature. Also, does it really matter for people who just want the spreadsheets, that they where contribuded to develop scripts? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Feb 1 2020, 20:30
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AhumanRS
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Is "Absorb" even useful? Isn't silence like 700% better?
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Feb 1 2020, 21:10
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(AhumanRS @ Feb 1 2020, 19:30)  Is "Absorb" even useful? Isn't silence like 700% better?
yeah... Absorb is useless. It has no defensive value and the amount that gets absorbed into your stats is so small, lke a dick even an ant would be ashamed off
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Feb 1 2020, 23:53
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KitsuneAbby
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On the other hand, Scroll of Absorption can be useful. It basically does the same, except it triggers 100% of the time, doesn't need mana to activate, and doesn't take action time either. Very handy to avoid being blasted by magical attacks.
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Feb 2 2020, 00:31
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 1 2020, 21:53)  On the other hand, Scroll of Absorption can be useful. It basically does the same, except it triggers 100% of the time, doesn't need mana to activate, and doesn't take action time either. Very handy to avoid being blasted by magical attacks.
On the other hand, it costs a turn to absorb one spell, and if you have spirit shield on (limiting the maximum damage you'll take to 20% of your hp) you're probably losing more turns than you would just eating the attacks and curing after... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) If it absorbed more than one spell it'd be fine, or if you're REALLY struggling to keep your spirit up, but overall I think it is a turn loss.
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Feb 2 2020, 01:08
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(lestion @ Feb 1 2020, 17:16)  I think when there's repeated blocks of text & links it just kinda blends in together and it gets super easy to gloss over without really seeing anything...
Maybe colour code some of it? Or bold the headers?
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 1 2020, 17:18)  You know that the full truth and easy to understand isnt the same, right? People are lazy. So when they "read" script contributions, they read is script and when they search for spreadsheets, they wont find any in your signature. Also, does it really matter for people who just want the spreadsheets, that they where contribuded to develop scripts? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) i hate you. both of you. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) re: scroll of absorption: it has a cool icon, btw. i let it in my quickbar for this reason.
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Feb 2 2020, 01:28
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(lestion @ Feb 1 2020, 22:31)  On the other hand, it costs a turn to absorb one spell, and if you have spirit shield on (limiting the maximum damage you'll take to 20% of your hp) you're probably losing more turns than you would just eating the attacks and curing after... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) If it absorbed more than one spell it'd be fine, or if you're REALLY struggling to keep your spirit up, but overall I think it is a turn loss. You mean eating an attack, using a spîrit potion, casting Cure, and then healing again with Full-Cure? And then with very bad luck, Health/Spirit Elixir? If I can use a cheap consumable to have a decent chance at avoiding that pattern, then it's worth it. I ain't saying it'll do the trick all the time, but if I can save an elixir here and there (on top of a bit of struggling) with this small thing, then it's cool.
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Feb 2 2020, 02:26
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 1 2020, 23:28)  You mean eating an attack, using a spîrit potion, casting Cure, and then healing again with Full-Cure? And then with very bad luck, Health/Spirit Elixir? If I can use a cheap consumable to have a decent chance at avoiding that pattern, then it's worth it. I ain't saying it'll do the trick all the time, but if I can save an elixir here and there (on top of a bit of struggling) with this small thing, then it's cool.
eating 1 attack != 1 cure, unless your cure is only healing 20% of your hp... and again, 1 spirit potion for 1 attack? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Feb 2 2020, 07:23
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BL.Kunkka
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What is your recommended Monsterbation setup for time optimization?
I play as an Imperial Fire Mage and find that imperial is the most time-consuming task.
My setup is Right click for imperial Left click to toggle hover action Mouse up for draughts Mouse down to heal Middle mouse to FUS RO DAH
I prefer only using mouse and not touching keyboard. My PFUDOR DwD stats is around 30 minutes, with or without infusion.
Thanks in advanced.
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Feb 2 2020, 09:20
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(BL.Kunkka @ Feb 2 2020, 06:23)  What is your recommended Monsterbation setup for time optimization?
I play as an Imperial Fire Mage and find that imperial is the most time-consuming task.
My setup is Right click for imperial Left click to toggle hover action Mouse up for draughts Mouse down to heal Middle mouse to FUS RO DAH
I prefer only using mouse and not touching keyboard. My PFUDOR DwD stats is around 30 minutes, with or without infusion.
Thanks in advanced.
Tip 1: FUS RO DAH is not very useful for mage. Get Dragonslayer title for the 10% more damage. You need that. Tip 2: You want everything in mouse? That may hurt your tendons, but if so you're doing it right. I would then mouse-down for mana potion. Tip 3: I play with 2 hands, one on keyboard, one on mouse. Quite fast. I do use a safe set-up that respects hover-alerts, so I can't imperil myself to death. (I use the dreaded hovershift = imperil, toglehover that was the cause of pain for some players)
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Feb 2 2020, 10:05
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BL.Kunkka
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 2 2020, 14:20)  Tip 1: FUS RO DAH is not very useful for mage. Get Dragonslayer title for the 10% more damage. You need that. Tip 2: You want everything in mouse? That may hurt your tendons, but if so you're doing it right. I would then mouse-down for mana potion. Tip 3: I play with 2 hands, one on keyboard, one on mouse. Quite fast. I do use a safe set-up that respects hover-alerts, so I can't imperil myself to death. (I use the dreaded hovershift = imperil, toglehover that was the cause of pain for some players)
- Although in settings Godslayer title shows +10% damage but wiki says it only affects physical damage so I think only +3% evade matters. Besides outside the last 3 arena I need to abuse FUS RO DAH to do IW on PFUDOR difficulty. - How do you use Imperial with hovershift though? Should I set normal hover = do nothing, shift hover = imperial and ctrl or alt hover = casting offensive spells? Might need to learn to take left hand out of pocket again (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Feb 2 2020, 11:01
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Fudo Masamune
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Joined: 2-February 10

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QUOTE(BL.Kunkka @ Feb 2 2020, 17:05)  - Although in settings Godslayer title shows +10% damage but wiki says it only affects physical damage so I think only +3% evade matters. Besides outside the last 3 arena I need to abuse FUS RO DAH to do IW on PFUDOR difficulty. - How do you use Imperial with hovershift though? Should I set normal hover = do nothing, shift hover = imperial and ctrl or alt hover = casting offensive spells? Might need to learn to take left hand out of pocket again (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) wait, go back a little, where did you get your overcharge to cast FRD as mage? or did I derp somewhere and missed something?
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Feb 2 2020, 11:30
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BL.Kunkka
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Feb 2 2020, 16:01)  wait, go back a little, where did you get your overcharge to cast FRD as mage? or did I derp somewhere and missed something?
I imperial all but one, light them up. Then apply weaken, silence to the little survivor. Beat him to dead with a stick. Next round FUS RO DAH first and repeat. I do this after round 20 in IW Legendary PFUDOR. Because if monster count is over 7 they will guarantee to trigger SoL at least once before I'm done casting imperial.
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Feb 2 2020, 11:56
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(BL.Kunkka @ Feb 2 2020, 10:30)  I imperial all but one, light them up. Then apply weaken, silence to the little survivor. Beat him to dead with a stick. Next round FUS RO DAH first and repeat. I do this after round 20 in IW Legendary PFUDOR. Because if monster count is over 7 they will guarantee to trigger SoL at least once before I'm done casting imperial.
That still doesnt explain where the overcharge for FRD is comming from. I mean a normal mage has overcharge gain of 0. Do you play as 1H mage? This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Feb 2 2020, 11:56
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Feb 2 2020, 12:05
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BL.Kunkka
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 2 2020, 16:56)  That still doesnt explain where the overcharge for FRD is comming from. I mean a normal mage has overcharge gain of 0. Do you play as 1H mage?
No "beat him to dead with a stick" means I just normal attack them, not casting any spell.
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