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Haste is not a good buff in 1H+heavy build. It is good for all other builds, and it can act like a crutch early on for 1H+heavy.

Just adding to this point. When your level is low and you don't have nice gear haste and/or shadowveil might be useful to help you survive ☆ ～('▽^人)

If you are following the traditional 1H Heavy advice but ends up getting killed you will ヽ(*・ω・)ﾉ benefit from casting either or both

The speed/evade vs counter-attack thing is not very straight forward in logic \(★ω★)/ before getting the metagame on head

If you are following the traditional 1H Heavy advice but ends up getting killed you will ヽ(*・ω・)ﾉ benefit from casting either or both

The speed/evade vs counter-attack thing is not very straight forward in logic \(★ω★)/ before getting the metagame on head

You mean one can counter-attack and evade at the same time? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by qwertypls: Feb 9 2018, 03:56

You mean one can counter-attack and evade at the same time? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

No, evasion triggers before block and parry so no counter-attack can happen.
But it help reducing incoming damage with the cost of lowering the offensive too because of reduced counter attack.
So yeah, it help you survive but you'll need more turn and time to clear the arena mmm...

No, evasion triggers before block and parry so no counter-attack can happen.
But it help reducing incoming damage with the cost of lowering the offensive too because of reduced counter attack.
So yeah, it help you survive but you'll need more turn and time to clear the arena mmm...

Got ya, prioritizing safety seems to be the way to go. U can't clear unless u stay alive, very true.

How does the Equipment Inventory slots work? I took a look at it and when I transfer one equipment, it says Slots: 1/0 at the bottom.

How does the Equipment Inventory slots work? I took a look at it and when I transfer one equipment, it says Slots: 1/0 at the bottom.

By default, you can store up to 1,000 pieces of equipment. It doesn't matter if they're "in storage" or not, but you can help prevent accidentally selling them if you do store them.

There is a hath perk you can buy which raises that +0. Stuff in storage while you have that hath perk doesn't count against your 1,000 limit.

Wow somebody just did a trophy run or something and dumped a ton of stuff into the bazaar. Are these things really that bad?

[alt.hentaiverse.org] Mag Sav Power Helm of Bal
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Leg Ruby Power Gaunt Balance

Wow somebody just did a trophy run or something and dumped a ton of stuff into the bazaar. Are these things really that bad?

[alt.hentaiverse.org] Mag Sav Power Helm of Bal
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Leg Ruby Power Gaunt Balance

They aren't worth 500+ fragments and the people who can use those without soulfusing them have better equips...

You mean one can counter-attack and evade at the same time? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

nope 〜(￣▽￣〜) meant it is hard to understand at first that you benefit from being slow as a slug in 1H when you are starting and haste+shadowveil let you survive better than the alternative

the usual advice for 1H is to be slow-ass ε=(っ≧ω≦)っ when logic says you benefit from attacking faster
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This post has been edited by reality_marble: Feb 9 2018, 16:10

you benefit from being slow as a slug in 1H when you are starting and haste+shadowveil let you survive better than the alternative

Well, in 1H you have the shield, so it makes sense.

But in 2H heavy ? Haste may/should be useless there too, but Shadowveil is good in this style, or am I wrong doing it so ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

But in 2H heavy ? Haste may/should be useless there too, but Shadowveil is good in this style, or am I wrong doing it so ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I dont think so, apart from 2H Heavy is a bad combination, it should benefit from haste. When you actually have to tank nearly every monster attack, imo it is important to kill monster as fast as you can. Therefore haste should be usefull.

I dont think so, apart from 2H Heavy is a bad combination, it should benefit from haste. When you actually have to tank nearly every monster attack, imo it is important to kill monster as fast as you can. Therefore haste should be usefull.

Well, I've seen doing it that 2H+H is not great, but it's not my main style and I play it only occasionally and not with good equip.

I have seen barely any improvement in it from casting Haste thou', while casting Shadow makes a differnce
May it be 'cause of my bad 102 interf and 88 burden ?

1H everywhere. Its only good build, besides mage or what?

1H everywhere. Its only good build, besides mage or what?

1H and mage are the two most stable builds that have been tested many times over. You can play however you want though. Also DW is faster than 1H.

This post has been edited by as013: Feb 9 2018, 20:14

May it be 'cause of my bad 102 interf and 88 burden ?

Not in a way i could think of, the speed bonus haste does give you is based only by the ability points you did put into it. Up until 50% iirc. And of course SV has a bigger impact, i mean like i said, as 2H heavy you can nearly only tank monster attacks, get actually a way to avoid those attacks with the evade bonus from SV, does of course reduce the numbers of attacks you have to tank. Therefore this should tell you, when 2H play it with shade. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

1H everywhere. Its only good build, besides mage or what?

Popular and easy to play are the right words. DW is a bit less easy, and 2H is a nightmare that requires serious dedication... or to have suicide tendencies.

1H everywhere. Its only good build, besides mage or what?

There are Ninten ppl that finish PFUFests just right... ┐(︶▽︶)┌
2H Club at least there are ppl who finished PFUFest and showed results...
DW ppl post DwD clearing results with nice clear times frequently...
2H Estoc is very able to clear arenas too, both SG and non-SG when using FRD, I guarantee it myself \(★ω★)/ and it is cheap to have a nice set going.

1H is just very strong in the meta. Just slap some Leg/Mag mix of armor, forge 5, get even a Leg Rapier of Balance and finish PFUDOR IW of Legendary with it... but it isn't the only possibility ヽ(￣～￣　)ノ

This is videogames. Choose what is more FUN to you and go along. 1H was boring as hell when I mained it. Although, I will admit, it is very easy to get it rolling. You just don't die at all and will clear everything with little effort, except maybe Grindfest...

1H everywhere. Its only good build, besides mage or what?

1H+heavy is super cheap to start. You can use free/nearly free plate armor, any shield, any 1-handed weapon. You could even wear leather armor with it, simply because of how good shields are at keeping you alive. It gets a lot better when you invest into it, such as power armor, top-notch rapier, and high-block force shield.

Other builds die until you invest a lot into your gear. All other melee builds rely on evade in tiny amounts from five pieces of gear, and you need to build up four PABS (STR, DEX, END, and AGI) instead of only three like 1h.

All builds will take some fairly serious investment in hunting for top-notch gear, upgrades, Item World, and so on before you can clear "fast and stable." But 1h+heavy gets to that stable part easier than other builds. And for most people, if they're going to invest in "faster," they might as well invest in the fastest build: mage.

So yes. Other builds exists. People play them. But this logic attracts a lot of people to it.

i remind you that shadow veil has a big effect because it stacks with its own roll - which is unaffected by BUR. this means lower gains at high evades but bigger gains at low evades.

not sure how haste stacks though...

2h light is a literal waste of time unless you want to each use frd and play pfudor and your damage isn't good enough. There's no real comparison until you're wearing a full set of forged savage shadowdancer, so until someone posts such gears you're better off using the comparatively cheaper heavy gear.