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Dec 10 2019, 06:37
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舍命玩文
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Hi, I just get this stuff from the shrine. Magnificent Katalox Staff of Fenrir, MDB 90% https://hentaiverse.org/equip/216065121/8cd4ea2b65I am just a new player and I guess this stuff is good because of its higher MDB. Can anyone tell me whether I am right? Thanks a lot!
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Dec 10 2019, 06:45
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(chzx000 @ Dec 10 2019, 13:37)  Hi, I just get this stuff from the shrine. Magnificent Katalox Staff of Fenrir, MDB 90% https://hentaiverse.org/equip/216065121/8cd4ea2b65I am just a new player and I guess this stuff is good because of its higher MDB. Can anyone tell me whether I am right? Thanks a lot! that MDB is for magnificent, for legendary it's just 20%ish also, for staff you'll wants matching prefix and suffix, yours have no prefix, oak also more preferred for dark mage. I'm sorry, but I won't say that it's good, not even for starting mage.
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Dec 10 2019, 08:30
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 10 2019, 05:45)  that MDB is for magnificent, for legendary it's just 20%ish also, for staff you'll wants matching prefix and suffix, yours have no prefix, oak also more preferred for dark mage. I'm sorry, but I won't say that it's good, not even for starting mage.
(correction: willow more preferred for dark mage, oak more preferred for holy mage) Yes, sorry, Fudo is right, this is just worth the high-grade wood it's made of.
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Dec 10 2019, 09:15
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 10 2019, 15:30)  (correction: willow more preferred for dark mage, oak more preferred for holy mage)
oh yeah, I'm drunk earlier this week.
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Dec 10 2019, 18:51
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ljh235689
Group: Gold Star Club
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Spark of Life can be launched when my HP is dark green
But when I use a mage, I found that sometimes even though my Spark of Life is effective (HP is dark green), I am still defeated
I think as long as Spark of Life is valid, I will never be defeated in the current round (at least 1HP will be left?)
I don't know where I understand it wrong
I wonder if it's possible that I suffered enough damage to be defeated twice in the round.
The first Spark of Life launch, the second SP is not enough to launch and is defeated?
Can an expert explain to me how Spark of Life works?
THX
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Dec 10 2019, 19:00
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Fudo Masamune
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SoL also need your SP to stay more than certain level (50% base SP or something - SP tank gives you +100% SP at lvl 450, so it should be around 25-30% of your max SP) you could have monsters attack shaft your SP below 50% base due to spirit shield and got defeated because your SoL couldn't trigger due to low SP.
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Dec 10 2019, 19:07
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舍命玩文
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 10 2019, 12:45)  that MDB is for magnificent, for legendary it's just 20%ish also, for staff you'll wants matching prefix and suffix, yours have no prefix, oak also more preferred for dark mage. I'm sorry, but I won't say that it's good, not even for starting mage.
Thanks for your answer! So that means MDB(ADB and others) what shops said are standard are usually by legendary equipment? If I buy a good stuff or other equipment and soulbound it, during my level increase, the value of magic(atk and others) will also increase but the MDB(ADB and others) will not change? And that means I could buy some good equipment and soulbound them without replacing even after my level is higher?
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Dec 10 2019, 19:27
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(chzx000 @ Dec 11 2019, 02:07)  Thanks for your answer! So that means MDB(ADB and others) what shops said are standard are usually by legendary equipment?
it's depending to the shop, some convert them, some doesn't. I think it's more of a honest gesture to convert it to legendary as most would wants legendaries as comparison anyway. QUOTE If I buy a good stuff or other equipment and soulbound it, during my level increase, the value of magic(atk and others) will also increase but the MDB(ADB and others) will not change? And that means I could buy some good equipment and soulbound them without replacing even after my level is higher?
they will increase. MDB and ADB will still increase, it's just that the percentile will not unless you upgrade them. Only some specific stats won't change when the equipment level changed (only stats with infinity level factor won't change it's value following equipment level). The xx% shown on shop or what shown on live percentile is what it's base value compared to min-max value of it's tier range. for example if the range for a stats for legendary is somewhere between 10 and 20 point base, and your equipment have 15, then it will have 50% on it's stats based on live percentile script. in reality the system doesn't care about the 50%, it only cares about the 15, which is then scaled to the equipment level (or your level when soulbound) to obtain the actual equipment stats. to put it simply, the base won't change, but the actual stats will change depend on it's level scaling. you could change the base by upgrading the equipment (or from some IW potency) and yes soulbound was once meant for "keeper equips", equip that you would use for a long time (or even your final equipment. This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Dec 10 2019, 19:30
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Dec 10 2019, 19:30
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ljh235689
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 11 2019, 01:00)  SoL also need your SP to stay more than certain level (50% base SP or something - SP tank gives you +100% SP at lvl 450, so it should be around 25-30% of your max SP) you could have monsters attack shaft your SP below 50% base due to spirit shield and got defeated because your SoL couldn't trigger due to low SP.
I have previously calculated that launch requires about 27% SP So my situation may be that 40 ~ 50% of the current SP is left Then when attacked, the system first calculates the SP deducted by the Spirit Shield Then because of my SP below 27%, I was defeated That ’s why I encountered that SoL is effective, but I still failed. It's like I was killed by the spirit shield ... So it means that I have to keep my SP at 60 ~ 70% to ensure that I will never be defeated? By the way, if I do n’t use the Spirit Shield, if SoL is effective, even if I am attacked by 10 monsters and take a lot of damage, it will ensure that I will definitely have 1 HP left?
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Dec 10 2019, 19:37
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(ljh235689 @ Dec 11 2019, 02:30)  So it means that I have to keep my SP at 60 ~ 70% to ensure that I will never be defeated?
it is depends on each person, I use spirit draught when my SP under 1/2 and potion when under 1/3. your defense and damage avoidance rate dictate how high you need to keep for insurance. QUOTE By the way, if I do n’t use the Spirit Shield, if SoL is effective, even if I am attacked by 10 monsters and take a lot of damage, it will ensure that I will definitely have 1 HP left?
technically, yes, but I believe it will be less sustainable as each trigger will drain 1/4 of your SP (and you have to cure too as you'll be on very low HP) compared to trickle from spirit shield.
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Dec 10 2019, 19:50
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ljh235689
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 11 2019, 01:37)  it is depends on each person, I use spirit draught when my SP under 1/2 and potion when under 1/3. your defense and damage avoidance rate dictate how high you need to keep for insurance. technically, yes, but I believe it will be less sustainable as each trigger will drain 1/4 of your SP (and you have to cure too as you'll be on very low HP) compared to trickle from spirit shield.
Ok Thank you very much for your answer This is very useful for me
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Dec 13 2019, 03:46
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swimswim100
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Is it worthwhile to do upgrades/Item World on superior/exquisite equipment or is it better to only do those for legendaries? Also, is mage better than warrior at high levels or is it just viable? I couldn't tell from the advice section. Thanks in advance. Edit: Thanks @Uncle Stu (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by swimswim100: Dec 13 2019, 08:43
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Dec 13 2019, 03:59
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(swimswim100 @ Dec 13 2019, 02:46)  Is it worthwhile to do upgrades/Item World on superior/exquisite equipment or is it better to only do those for legendaries?
Well, i wouldnt really suggest to IW any superior equipment, but when it is a good weapon, imo it could be worth it to IW that. But even then i would say just for the additional strike, because a real IW with specific Potencies would could cost so much more credits in amnesia shards, that the thought alone wouldn be just ridiculous. So, yeah, a real IW i mostly something for Leg equipment you will really use for a long time, or at least plan to. Because the cost can be quite high. 200 to 300 used amnesia shards for a single item i nothing unseen. And none superior or exquisite equipment will ever be worth that much effort and or credits. QUOTE(swimswim100 @ Dec 13 2019, 02:46)  Also, is mage better than warrior at high levels or is it just viable? I couldn't tell from the advice section.
With the right equipment i is much faster as any melee style ever could hope to be. But only with the right equipment and the right level. With sup and exc equipment at your level, a mage wouldnt be a glass cannon, but just glass. QUOTE(swimswim100 @ Dec 13 2019, 02:46)  Thanks in advance.
You are welcome, i hope my post answers your questions. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Dec 15 2019, 02:40
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Maharid
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,405
Joined: 27-April 10

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Those are my current Perks:
- Postage Paid - All Gold Star Perks - Resplendent Regeneration - Vigorous Vitality - Effluent Ether - Suffusive Spirit - Thinking Cap, Mentats (No need for more) - Enigma Energizer - Evil Enchantress - Dæmon Duality V - Extra Strength Formula - Tokenizer I - Innate Arcana V - Force of Nature - Divine Warmage - Long Gone Before Daylight - Crystarium III
What is the best Park to get now?
- Tokenizer II - Repair Bear Mk.1 - Crystarium IV - That's Good Eatin' - Coupon Clipper - Dæmon Duality VI (It simply cost too much)
I don't need "Hoarder" cause i don't collect or keep any equip apart few- Also i don't really need any other forum related perk.
Give you're grain of knowledge and make my life easy.
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Dec 15 2019, 03:36
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Imo easy TokenizerII and after that i would say Crystarium IV.
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Dec 15 2019, 06:58
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BlueWaterSplash
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Hey there is another swimmer here. Well I am not really a swimmer its just my character girl here.
Mage is generally well known by everyone to be the superior successor to all melee styles, and is better and faster at high level when you have more survivability. I also noticed that the Advice section doesn't clearly describe things that way but I think it's not a bad idea. This way players can come to the forums or lurk and they will find out soon enough.
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Dec 15 2019, 07:06
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BlueWaterSplash
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QUOTE(ljh235689)  It's like I was killed by the spirit shield... Yes, low level 1H players in PFUDOR Item World without good gear were previously worn down and killed by the combination of Spirit Shield and Spark of Life. Also, although most people didn't realize or talk about this, Spirit Shield is much worse on a low level player due to the SP drain formula and level scaling. For very low level 1H, it can sometimes be the case that you might be more likely to survive by luck using just Spark of Life and not using Spirit Shield, however if you need to do this often it's too risky so I would recommend playing an easier difficulty instead. You have a nice picture...
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Dec 15 2019, 20:09
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swimswim100
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 14 2019, 21:58)  Hey there is another swimmer here. Well I am not really a swimmer its just my character girl here.
Mage is generally well known by everyone to be the superior successor to all melee styles, and is better and faster at high level when you have more survivability. I also noticed that the Advice section doesn't clearly describe things that way but I think it's not a bad idea. This way players can come to the forums or lurk and they will find out soon enough.
I see. Thanks for the clarification @BlueWaterSplash. Regarding survivability, I do find that I die often at IWBTH and PFUDOR (mostly because of multiple high damage attacks that break my spark of life, run my spirit out, and then kill me) and am usually stuck at Nintendo maximum. I heard it gets easier past lvl 300. Does that mean by the time I am higher level I'll be able to do higher difficulties more easily or some other reason? (eg: Do people start getting better quality, higher potential, or more upgraded equipment?) Edit: Thank you for the explanation @lestion and the clarification @Uncle Stu This post has been edited by swimswim100: Dec 16 2019, 00:42
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Dec 15 2019, 20:31
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(swimswim100 @ Dec 15 2019, 18:09)  I see. Thanks for the clarification @BlueWaterSplash.
Regarding survivability, I do find that I die often at IWBTH and PFUDOR (mostly because of multiple high damage attacks that break my spark of life, run my spirit out, and then kill me) and am usually stuck at Nintendo maximum. I heard it gets easier past lvl 300. Does that mean by the time I am higher level I'll be able to do higher difficulties more easily or some other reason? (eg: Do people start getting better quality, higher potential, or more upgraded equipment?)
It's a combination of a bunch of factors: more natural PABs, abilities and survivability stat scaling on equipment outpacing monster damage, but there's also the byproduct of levelling - wealth. The longer you play, the more credits you'll earn, which you can invest in forging your equipment... Plus, once you hit 400, you'll have access to any equipment in the game for soulfusing. All of these together mean that arenas become entirely trivial sooner or later (although IWBTH/PF fests never do, but 1H can get it safe enough to play brainlessly if slowly). It's important to note that 'easily' tends to mean, with less attention required or with less danger, but it isn't the case that the game becomes easier overall - it becomes slower, as monster health scaling outpaces player damage scaling. A few players choose to deliberately slow their levelling as much as possible because of this, but most agree that it's not really worth putting much thought into (you'll tend to keep your speed roughly the same through investing in upgrades and DD perks, on the most part).
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Dec 15 2019, 23:02
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(lestion @ Dec 15 2019, 19:31)  (although IWBTH/PF fests never do, but 1H can get it safe enough to play brainlessly if slowly).
Just to clarify this, 1H does still need quite a bit of forging for this and at least for my experience a defensive build made of three protection and two wardning. And no, you dont necessarily need a peerl set for this. I cleared my first PFest with just a single peerl as part of a mediocre forged set. IWBTH is of course much easier to clear. And at least in theory i think i could be possible to clear PFest even with a full slaughter set, when you play imperil and have heavy if not full forging. And i guess at least a few DD wouldnt harm. But that is atm just theory and i am not able to comfirm this.
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