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Nov 12 2019, 23:16
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Liexxio @ Nov 12 2019, 21:42)  Did HentaiVerse version change since then? If not then the info should still be accurate.
it's not about version change. it's more that past a certain point, it's not searchable anymore because too big
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Nov 13 2019, 01:39
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 29-January 12

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QUOTE(Liexxio @ Nov 12 2019, 19:13)  What do monster's primary attributes exactly do? Wiki mentions DEX boosting physical attack, INT magical attack, but it doesn't say anything specific. Could someone describe what each attribute does?
Also, is there a way to search this huge thread? Forum search function only gives me the topic, but... I really don't want to go through 600 pages to find one specific info. Wouldn't separate threads work better?
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_StatsThis (not very easily discovered) page on the wiki details what the stats are used for, and also how to scale them from their base stats to actual monster levels in game. QUOTE(Paruri @ Nov 10 2019, 21:27)  Good! Actaully as long as those factors are included in the calculation, I don't care much about the specific gear level, because as you said, it's relative.
About the base prof, it's also your choice but considering non-500Lv users usually can't get over 1.1 base prof, I think 2 prof category: 1.1 prof, 1.2 prof will be nice for many people.
Part 2 is now complete! See it here for the non-imperil results. This post has been edited by lestion: Nov 13 2019, 03:36
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Nov 13 2019, 14:27
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nʞɐɾouɐɯ∀
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(lestion @ Nov 13 2019, 00:39)  https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_StatsThis (not very easily discovered) page on the wiki details what the stats are used for, and also how to scale them from their base stats to actual monster levels in game. This is exactly what I was searching for. Thanks. The question is if it's up to date, since Uncle said that in practice only level matters.
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Nov 13 2019, 14:55
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Uncle Stu
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Well, i dont see why it shouldnt be acurate. It is just, that the stats of a monster dont really matter that much. I mean it is just a fact, that you allready need high PL for them to actually get encountered without them been actually encountered by a lot of people, they cant get that many wins or kills and even when they are above PL 1500 aka those level who they get encountered by the most people, every win or kill is more luck as stat based. Because i assume most wins and kills do just happen because people are careless or dont care. Lets say someone does a GF and flees because he only needs so many crystals, so when your monster is part of that round that person flees, it gets a win. But that didnt had anything to do with the stats it had. Or lets say they play an RE and are just too stuborn to cast regen for that and get killed. If your monster was part of that RE it gets a win, if it actually got the last hit, it got a win. But both times it was just because that person didnt cast regen, not because that monster had such a high damage from stats. And just saying, in the end at PL 2250 they have all the same attributes. And just to tell you about how many crystals we are talking there according to the wiki for PL 2379 you need 8714 crystal packs with an average price of 21k per pack that is only 18,2994,000 credits for a single monster. And i just tell you that, because i am quite sure i understand where you are coming from, because i had once the same thoughts about my monster and did only upgrade Str. Damned was that in the end a stupid idea. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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Nov 13 2019, 18:59
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pooofer
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So basically, just upgrade the cheapest stat always as to keep the cost the same across the board and forget about stats?
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Nov 13 2019, 19:13
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Maharid
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 27-April 10

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Someone have an idea of how to see my stamina during battle?
It's just a nuicance not being able to directly see it.
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Nov 13 2019, 19:15
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(pooofer @ Nov 13 2019, 23:59)  So basically, just upgrade the cheapest stat always as to keep the cost the same across the board and forget about stats?
More or less yeah. Anyway, no matter how you tailor your monsters' stats, it won't pose much trouble to any decent mid-upper level player unless you heavily chaos them. Moreover, the limit isn't about how high the stats but how many times you boost the stats (25 times for primary stats and 50 times for resistance), so choosing what to upgrade is moot in the end.
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Nov 13 2019, 19:43
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Maharid @ Nov 13 2019, 18:13)  Someone have an idea of how to see my stamina during battle?
It's just a nuicance not being able to directly see it.
Well, not sure if something like that excist, but i just calculate that in my head. It is not that hard, just remember with what stamina you did start, so lets say 82 and you start a GF. So right from the beginning you allready loose one so 81. After 25 rounds you are down to 80. After 50 rounds you are down to 79. After 100 rounds down to 78 and so on until you finish the whole thing and should be at the end at 61 stamina. But of course for a GF when you play slow you have to add around every hour another stamina so when you did need three hours you wouldnt be at 61 but at 64. And now that i made all this i am not sure if that actually did help you. Did it? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) QUOTE(pooofer @ Nov 13 2019, 17:59)  So basically, just upgrade the cheapest stat always as to keep the cost the same across the board and forget about stats?
Well, personally i did until PL 792 just upgrade them one after the other so that most of them are allways equal. But now because it was so nice to save so many happy pills and upgrades get really expansive for me when you have to do that for 200 monster, i mean i need a whole crystal pack to bring the attributes from 12 to 13 for a single monster, i did upgrade of some 792 monster only one attribute, one get Str the next Dex and so on. It is not a really big difference only from 792 to 802, but so far i like the idea. It will still take me at least another year before finally someone decided, oh luck, this monster is funny, only that this time it was one of mine. Did you read that noni? This time it was one of mine! *sigh* I look forward to it as i would otherwhise only too boobs. Awww, boobs. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Nearly forgot. Sorry, i was distrated by the thoughts of boobs. So here is it. Muahahahahahahaha. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Nov 13 2019, 20:10
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Nov 13 2019, 20:33
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Nov 13 2019, 18:43)  ... Did you read that noni? ...
Muahahahahahahaha.
I must admit, Muahahahahahah is an EXCELLENT monster name (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Nov 13 2019, 20:39
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Well, it wasnt actually ment as a monstername, just as the typical evil maniacal laugh. But okay, now it is and it will still take me another year. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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Nov 13 2019, 20:48
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 29-January 12

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QUOTE(Liexxio @ Nov 13 2019, 12:27)  This is exactly what I was searching for. Thanks. The question is if it's up to date, since Uncle said that in practice only level matters.
I have no reason to believe it is not accurate. What Uncle is saying is essentially that it's foolish to try to upgrade specific stats and ignore the others. This is true - there are two factors involved. The exponential crystal cost increase gets really silly at higher levels, and also the primary thing governing how many battles they win is simply... how many battles do they appear in? Power level is the only determining factor in their appearance rate (and since they only really start to appear at level 1500+ for high level players, it would be very very expensive to try to get even two or three levels ahead in say, strength).
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Nov 13 2019, 21:09
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(lestion @ Nov 13 2019, 19:48)  and since they only really start to appear at level 1500+ for high level players
Well, sort of. I mean from time to time i still encounter my two 1311 monster. 1500 is just when you want to see them on a regular basis and not once per week. Well, i guess i encounter them more often, but usually i notice them one per week. But hey, i am old and easily distrated by boobs. Hmmmm boobs. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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Nov 13 2019, 21:27
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 29-January 12

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Nov 13 2019, 19:09)  Well, sort of. I mean from time to time i still encounter my two 1311 monster. 1500 is just when you want to see them on a regular basis and not once per week. Well, i guess i encounter them more often, but usually i notice them one per week. But hey, i am old and easily distrated by boobs. Hmmmm boobs. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) 1300s make up about 2% of total appearances, according to sssss2's recent data!
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Nov 13 2019, 22:00
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Well, for me it was important to see one of my own monster from time to time. For that 1311 is good enough. Spooner or later i will have much more of them, but for the moment i am at least happy with that. And 720~792 is also allready enough for your monster getting scanned, well when you have enough of them and been paitient a lot of them at least get scanned. So just for those that are curious about that line.
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Nov 13 2019, 23:23
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Anerkis
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Should I be doing all of the arena challenges every day? Or a better question: with around an hour of playtime, what should I be doing?
This post has been edited by Anerkis: Nov 13 2019, 23:27
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Nov 13 2019, 23:47
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BlueWaterSplash
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As long as you use the Search Topic box or Search in general, I think the number of results returned for a specific topic isn't too extreme. The original Asked the Experts went 8 years, so I feel this one could last a few more. Doesn't matter to me either way.
What would be done with the old Ask the Experts? Would we have multiple Asked the Experts, or fuse all the Asked the Experts into one?
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Nov 13 2019, 23:48
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Anerkis @ Nov 13 2019, 22:23)  Should I be doing all of the arena challenges every day? Or a better question: with around an hour of playtime, what should I be doing?
Arena's + 3 Random Encounters Not all three Schoolgirl Arena's if you have limited time. The second SG arena is the least profitable.
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Nov 14 2019, 00:45
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Anerkis @ Nov 13 2019, 21:23)  Should I be doing all of the arena challenges every day? Or a better question: with around an hour of playtime, what should I be doing?
Dance with Dragons > To Kill a God > Trio and the Tree, for EXP gains. All arenas in descending order for average income per round (with the exception of Exile, which is slightly better than Eve of Death, weirdly enough). Do as many as you have time for.
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