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aye. basically poofer, you come from an era in which rolls determined quality, and you could see some bizarre results. now, quality determines rolls, and in particular min and max.

as a result, a gear of a certain quality *won't* go below a certain roll - you may want to replace your stuff.
and yep, probably sticking with melee for a while. iirc a major milestone for mages is 0-turns cooldown imperil, which is unlocked at lv310.

So i'm playing some HV after a few years off. I forgot most of how to play and i'm struggling with credits and repair costs.

if your repair cost is over your income, moreover just the scrap cost drain your fund, there's something really wrong with how you play the game.
Repair cost is tied to how many round you play, and I believe it's designed that the average income from each round won't be lower than the repair cost, so there should be another factor that your income can't catch up with your repair cost.

it's either you die a lot (which further increase the pace of your equipment degradation) or you don't salvage at all.
but even if you don't salvage at all, the amount of credits you obtain should be way over what needed to buy the scraps to repair your equip.

btw, for those scrap, if salvaging doesn't cover your consumption rate, it's cheaper to buy from player, I believe ssss2 sell them for below coupon clipper price.

Character is a frost mage so i need a lot of cloth scraps, what's the most cost effective way to get it? Buy from IS? salvaging? What do you recommend for money grinding, i can clear arenas at high difficulties but it takes way longer and costs a lot more elixirs and potions and every now and then i get one shot out of nowhere, normal takes less time but the drops are... less than desirable.

I'll browse the forum again, but if anyone can point to a good guide for my build it would be awesome.

if you play mage, and it's slow, you need to reflect about your chosen playstyle.
mage should be fast, it should be the fastest playstyle possible at the expense of survivability. if you're feeling slow when playing mage and you didn't do anything wrong, then the other playstyle will be slower than that.

spending elixir for mage is relatively normal, but that's for late round IW and grindfest.
on the other hand, spending elixirs on arena, moreover a lot of them, also a sign that you need reevaluate your playstyle.

--- and it seems you're questioning your playstyle right now, so let's start with some light assessment

Disregarding the quality of your equipment, you have no proficiency pieces, so I believe one of the factor to your slowness comes from monsters resisting your spell, moreover you don't have penetrator on your weapon and it's redwood which have no counter-resist.
if you're going to rebuild your equip and stay mage you need to consider those when doing that, proficiency factor (which contribute to counter resist) and counter resist from weapon (on highest difficulty monsters have extra resist chance which could shaft your damage by half or even 3/4)

if we're talking with the quality of your equipment in consideration... well, to be blunt, nowadays sometimes magnificent are considered insufficient for playing mage, and you're still using exquisite.
good thing is non charged/radiant prefix legendary cloth/phase are cheap now compared to 2015, so proviced you have the fund, you might be able to replace them for... idk a million or two?

the generic advice here usually grab some dirt cheap 1h-heavy equipment (~50k each) and play those to around mid 300 or 400 before switching back to mage. For 1h magnificent still acceptable, I found exquisite too to some degree.
but if you still wants to stay as mage, then you need to find why your income can't cover your repair cost first.
my main suspect is because you die, even once or two per days could be counted as a lot if you only play RE and arena, that's 20%(?) loss on equipment durability.
after that start building your warchest by playing mid-low difficulty in the mean time while changing your equipment one by one. you could try scrapping some freebies from wts thread too.

tldr;
either change to melee (preferably 1h-shield) to bridge your adventure for now before playing as mage again, or play on mid-low difficulty while patching your mage equipment here and there.
melee is relatively cheaper and slower but more reliable for your level, keep playing maging is riskier more expensive but offer possibility for faster clear time sooner. (all with their own terms and condition)
I believe you need to make a choice first before thinking about any further advice.
either way, goodluck.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Nov 7 2019, 06:32

Is there a reason I've never seen Legendary Cloth Armor for sale? I've seen around 15 light and heavy Legendary armor pieces for sale, but not once Cloth. Is it rarer, does it get bought faster, is it too precious to sell at high levels? Or am I just overthinking everything and just check equipment shop at bad times? I don't even want Legendary Cloth, I'm at too low of a level and I think buying Superior ranked Light Armor is enough since I don't have tons of Coin, but I'm curious if there's a reason or not.

This post has been edited by darkenedluigi: Nov 7 2019, 07:46

Is there a reason I've never seen Legendary Cloth Armor for sale?

It is for sale in shops in WTS, but rarely in the bazaar.
Legendary and magnificent cloth armor usually gets salvaged instead of sold to the bazaar because high-grade cloth is usually worth more than the selling price of the armor. If the armor is valuable, people can get more credits by selling it in a shop than by selling it to the bazaar.

Yeah, i was dying way too much.

I figure i'll patch my mage build slowly, seems clearing the higher leveled arenas on low difficulty still yields some tokens, i was able to sell some stuff and someone was kind enough to send some creds, so now i'm no longer on the cliff of bankruptcy.

Grabbing stuff off of the giveaways just to scrap seems like taking away the chance for someone to actually use the stuff, idk.

It's only been a couple of days since i started playing again so i figure i'll get better at not dying again soon enough.

Yeah, i was dying way too much.

that's how mage is on the level range where survivability is tested the most.

I figure i'll patch my mage build slowly, seems clearing the higher leveled arenas on low difficulty still yields some tokens, i was able to sell some stuff and someone was kind enough to send some creds, so now i'm no longer on the cliff of bankruptcy.

Grabbing stuff off of the giveaways just to scrap seems like taking away the chance for someone to actually use the stuff, idk.

It's only been a couple of days since i started playing again so i figure i'll get better at not dying again soon enough.

those on giveaways are usually meant for use, not for salvaging or reselling.
I believe sometimes there is even a clause which prohibit you to sell or salvage it.
Also, since the main problem of sharing equipment is it's level, afaik generally it's expected that when you outgrow those equipment level, you could pass them to another lower level player who need it to kickstart their adventure.
so, yeah, certainly not for just scrap. there might be people giving away scrap and other material for free though, I certainly see some people giving away mid grade materials sometimes.

also, monsterbation have a cutoff where it'll stop when you're expected to die, you need to figure out the setting which will suit your own character though, that might help you from dying due to mistake on your part.

So, being a cold mage and counter resist being important on a staff, should i switch to a willow staff instead of redwood even if elemental damage is gone and prof is lower? would the gains outweigh the losses?

If you also switch two of your phase armor for prof giving cloth pieces it sure as sure will.

So, being a cold mage and counter resist being important on a staff, should i switch to a willow staff instead of redwood even if elemental damage is gone and prof is lower? would the gains outweigh the losses?

for cold mage Arctic Redwood of Destruction is the first option
Arctic Willow of Destruction is second
PARD > PAWD > LARD > LAWD

Staff's potency - Penetrator5 is musthave no matter what
for IW and Grindfests - Pen5 + Spellweaver4
for Arenas - Pen5 + Archmage4 also works

Arctic Redwood Staff of the Elementalist can work with 5 phases, i wanna try it, but need good staff with good prof and i still can't get any.

So, being a cold mage and counter resist being important on a staff, should i switch to a willow staff instead of redwood even if elemental damage is gone and prof is lower? would the gains outweigh the losses?

sssss2‘s plays
Willow always being better. But you need the least amount of prof factor to maximize that, 0.68 I say. Otherwise, redwood might be better for you at the moment.
If you play Arenas only, Staff choice doesn't make noticeable difference.

sssss2‘s plays
Willow always being better. But you need the least amount of prof factor to maximize that, 0.68 I say. Otherwise, redwood might be better for you at the moment.
If you play Arenas only, Staff choice doesn't make noticeable difference.

Prof factor is actually 0.79 to get the 40% mitigation reduction required to combine with imperil to reduce any enemy to 0. Otherwise this post is accurate. (Redwood is marginally better for schoolgirl arenas because the schoolgirl's stats haven't scaled up to match normal monsters, and they don't have chaos upgrades. Regular monsters have much more resist.)

This post has been edited by lestion: Nov 8 2019, 14:04

Prof factor is actually 0.79 to get the 40% mitigation reduction required to combine with imperil to reduce any enemy to 0. Otherwise this post is accurate. (Redwood is marginally better for schoolgirl arenas because the schoolgirl's stats haven't scaled up to match normal monsters, and they don't have chaos upgrades. Regular monsters have much more resist.)

It's not necessary, and it's almost impossible to get to 0.78 for most low-level players. With 0.7, one can already erase 70% elemental mitigation, in which most monsters don't have such high ones yet. From 0.7 to 0.78, that requires a lot excessive profs, with only a little more damage on monsters that have 70+ mitigation. That's never worth mentioning.

Even without this precondition, Willow is much better than Redwoods in usual plays.
Of course I know redwood is better for SGs, but it's also not important as it doesn't affect the validity of my conclusion. That's why I claimed not too much difference between them in Arenas, because the speed advantage of willows on normal plays almost offsets redwood's benefits in SGs. Not worth investigating for his case.

I know everything you say. I am answering a question, not conducting a study. Neither quantitatively investigating a certain study. Not every detail and information is worth mentioning. It only makes things more complex, and harder to absorb.

This post has been edited by -vincento-: Nov 8 2019, 15:31

is anything the matter?

this discussion does not help new players visiting this thread.

I will update the wiki advice-advcanced as 0.68 is surely outdated and based on a monster population from long ago.


Edit: updated the wiki: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_...Getting_Started

This post has been edited by DJNoni: Nov 8 2019, 20:09

Well, my prof. factor was a sad .114 but i managed to get it to .431 after shrinning all i had an finding a not-as-crappy mag redwood staff. I'm still in the process of replacing my armor and will look for a willow staff as well.

Overall i think i picked up the pace quite nicely on arena now that i tweaked my abilities, got some pots and managed Eternal Darkness in 1 hr on normal. It's still slow, but it's getting there.

Thx again for all the tips.

I finally tried hover action again after getting ptsd from all the times i died and managed to blaze through 90 rounds on normal, small steps...

This post has been edited by pooofer: Nov 8 2019, 23:02

Willow always being better.

not always.
it's better when you ssss2 whit 500 level, 600 profs and peerless equip
when you 300-350 level newbie mage you need redwood's prof and damage

this looks like an interesting hint.

which could be the proper conditions to use:
1. CR staffs?
2. MDB staffs?
3. EDB staffs?
4. prof staffs?

this looks like an interesting hint.

which could be the proper conditions to use:
1. CR staffs?
2. MDB staffs?
3. EDB staffs?
4. prof staffs?

my 2 cts:
1. As soon as you can afford them
2. Destruction suffix for all elements that have it, if you can afford them.
3. For holy or for all other elements if you can't afford an excellent destruction.
4. Just for experimenting, fooling around, and for doing it wrong

my 2 cts:
1. As soon as you can afford them
2. Destruction suffix for all elements that have it, if you can afford them.
3. For holy or for all other elements if you can't afford an excellent destruction.
4. Just for experimenting, fooling around, and for doing it wrong

looks like you're saying: CR ~ MDB > EDB >> prof

looks like you're saying: CR ~ MDB > EDB >> prof

CR is the wood type. MDB is the suffix. So you'd want both. But a good CR staff with EDB suffix works as well. For holy it's the only way.