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post Feb 6 2018, 19:39
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QUOTE(qwertypls @ Feb 6 2018, 17:27) *

How long does it take your mage to clear x20 SG Arena and The Trio and the Tree? Just curious


Normally 1-1.5hrs for this 4 Challenges. Still not as fast as Wind Elec Holy Dark, but enough for me now.

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post Feb 6 2018, 20:21
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QUOTE(as013 @ Feb 7 2018, 01:07) *

IA5 here, J5*5. Arenas are of course easy after you get enough proficiency. I'm talking about PFest. I can do IW 90+ comfortably (after shit tons of forging, build in sign) but PFest 900+ is still too brutal for me. Do you use any deprecating spells or scrolls or rare stuff like vase/gum during last PFest rounds?
I have 782, that's 0.71 prof factor with Penetrator 4 and I still feel the monsters can resist my spells too often. Did you sign some contract with the monsters so that they don't beat you up?

For mage scrolls are a must, almost. If you are crazy enough you can do it without but it will save you a lot of time either way.

When I changed my iw from pen 4 to pen 5 with a katalox staff, turn count is cut by 2% at least. Also no innate cr hurts a lot in pfu.
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post Feb 6 2018, 22:09
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QUOTE(as013 @ Feb 6 2018, 10:07) *

PFest or IWBTFest or Hellfest?

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post Feb 6 2018, 22:14
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Feb 6 2018, 14:09) *

pfudor


Do u just keep them stunned by spamming FRD?
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post Feb 6 2018, 22:34
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QUOTE(qwertypls @ Feb 6 2018, 17:14) *

Do u just keep them stunned by spamming FRD?

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post Feb 7 2018, 01:40
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QUOTE(sangerex @ Feb 5 2018, 19:20) *

I change my question, how many tickets to guarantee in top 5?


You can't achieve this by purchasing any amount of tickets. You can purchase 500,000,000,000 tickets, and still not place in the top 5.

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total pot minus 4.


False. It still would not be guaranteed. Only way to be guaranteed is for there to be only 4 other people with tickets, or less. As long as there are six or more people holding tickets, someone can be out of the top 5 no matter how many tickets they have.
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post Feb 7 2018, 02:03
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Feb 7 2018, 00:40) *

False. It still would not be guaranteed. Only way to be guaranteed is for there to be only 4 other people with tickets, or less. As long as there are six or more people holding tickets, someone can be out of the top 5 no matter how many tickets they have.

which is somehow implied in "total pot minus 4". unless you can purchase fractions of a ticket or share them between different users, that is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Feb 7 2018, 02:03
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Feb 7 2018, 00:40) *

False. It still would not be guaranteed. Only way to be guaranteed is for there to be only 4 other people with tickets, or less. As long as there are six or more people holding tickets, someone can be out of the top 5 no matter how many tickets they have.

And now calculate, if there would be only four other tickets in the pot he didnt own. How many other people might in that case participate in the lottery? With only four tickets even Count von Count could not count to six. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 7 2018, 03:38
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 6 2018, 16:03) *

which is somehow implied in "total pot minus 4". unless you can purchase fractions of a ticket or share them between different users, that is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


This is what happens when you only offer cryptic answers.

Case one:
500,000 tickets total. You hold 499,996. Result max four other participants at 1 ticket each.

Case two:
500,000 tickets total. You hold 1 ticket. There are only four other participants, each holding the other 499,999 tickets in any proportion between them.

Your answer is not the only one that would be a guaranteed top 5 placing, and the actual reason for both cases being a guarantee is not due to how many tickets you purchase, but how many participants. Therefore your answer is false, because it attempts to imply the answer rather than give the true answer. It would be the same as giving the solution to an equation without fully reducing it, such as answering 2/4 instead of 1/2.
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post Feb 7 2018, 08:05
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Feb 6 2018, 18:21) *

For mage scrolls are a must, almost. If you are crazy enough you can do it without but it will save you a lot of time either way.

When I changed my iw from pen 4 to pen 5 with a katalox staff, turn count is cut by 2% at least. Also no innate cr hurts a lot in pfu.


Oh yes I just forgot to mention scrolls also, I think it is essential for mage to use scrolls in PFfest. I will definitely fail if I go PFfest 600+ without scrolls, especially the scroll of life. Thats why I don't always go through PFfest 1000 rounds but instead taking sth like 2* PFfest 500~600 rounds, as it cost so much items in last PFfest 3-400 rounds for my mage.

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post Feb 7 2018, 08:29
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Feb 6 2018, 23:34) *

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Yes, almost 1 frd per round

wow, I forgot it stunned everything, and that it existed at all. This works really well, thanks.
Have to be careful not to recast it before previous stun runs out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Feb 7 2018, 09:04
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Feb 7 2018, 02:38) *
This is what happens when you only offer cryptic answers.


* Decondelite whacks Scremaz's head

How many times do I have to tell you that the average user's ability to understand crypted information is extremely limited? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


* Decondelite whacks Cryosite's head

All that theory is useless. Doing math should be done for something that serves a purpose. Keeping it at "it doesn't depend on how much you spend, but on how many other players participate" is enough.

Just calculating the odds to win something is way enough. And it's a lottery damn, one shouldn't even start planning things on it.
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post Feb 7 2018, 10:19
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 7 2018, 08:04) *

* Decondelite whacks Scremaz's head
* Decondelite whacks Cryosite's head

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Uh, I mean: please try to limit the whacking of heads to the absolute minimum, thank you.
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post Feb 7 2018, 11:53
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I was wondering how the spike shield mechanic works & what would be the best in a 1h-shield build with elec strike weapon.
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post Feb 7 2018, 12:13
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QUOTE(wintercastle @ Feb 7 2018, 10:53) *

I was wondering how the spike shield mechanic works & what would be the best in a 1h-shield build with elec strike weapon.

spike shield is a little plus which stacks with your protection spell - which means it will be on as long as said spell is active.

a bit more infos here: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Spike_Shields

and here the list of the possible procs: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Status_Effects (only the first four)


the bonus damage is laughable, so the biggest advantage is to boost the damage of your elemental strike. since you're using an elec weapon, you may want to go with the spikes which lower elec mitigation, ie: Wind
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post Feb 7 2018, 13:27
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 7 2018, 21:13) *

spike shield is a little plus which stacks with your protection spell - which means it will be on as long as said spell is active.

a bit more infos here: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Spike_Shields

and here the list of the possible procs: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Status_Effects (only the first four)
the bonus damage is laughable, so the biggest advantage is to boost the damage of your elemental strike. since you're using an elec weapon, you may want to go with the spikes which lower elec mitigation, ie: Wind


Would you say the 10% damage reduction of the fire spike shield is better than the damage wind spike shield provides?
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post Feb 7 2018, 13:40
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QUOTE(wintercastle @ Feb 7 2018, 12:27) *

Would you say the 10% damage reduction of the fire spike shield is better than the damage wind spike shield provides?

that's a secondary effect. personally i'd aim to lower wind mitigation on mobs' side to boost your own firepower.
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post Feb 7 2018, 13:48
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 7 2018, 22:40) *

that's a secondary effect. personally i'd aim to lower wind mitigation on mobs' side to boost your own firepower.


So the primary effect is a specific element resistance being lowered by 25? Is this 100% guaranteed on monster hit?

So therefore, the secondary effect you say (17.5% from wiki) is the 10% damage mitigation I mentioned before?

Thanks for answering in advance.
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post Feb 7 2018, 20:16
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QUOTE(wintercastle @ Feb 7 2018, 03:48) *

So the primary effect is a specific element resistance being lowered by 25? Is this 100% guaranteed on monster hit?

So therefore, the secondary effect you say (17.5% from wiki) is the 10% damage mitigation I mentioned before?

Thanks for answering in advance.


Spike shields will 100% of the time do a tiny bit of damage to enemies that hit you while protection buff is up.

Those enemies gaining the "proc" from the spike shield is not 100%, but it isn't rare. When it does happen, it gives all the effects of the proc. In the case of the fire shield, the damage reduction as well as the cold resistance reduction.

The resistance reduction is considered by most to be the primary reason to use any spike shield. Since you have a weapon you like which is electric, then wind would be the primary choice.

Some people don't have a specific weapon chosen, and will consider that all four spike shields give similar resistance reduction. So they consider the other effect as a tiebreaker. Most people feel that the fire shield is the very slight best one of the four when using the 1h+heavy style. So, if they consider that the tiebreaker, they would prefer arctic weapons to make use of the cold resistance reduction of the slightly best spike shield.

So, no spike shield at all: tiny savings in AP. Spike shield is so cheap may as well get it.
Mismatched spike shield and weapon: very tiny benefit, such as damage reduction. Only 10%, some times, for a 2-3 turn duration.
Matched spike shield and weapon: slightly more benefit. -25% resistance to your elemental strike which is itself only a quarter of your main strike damage ideally (no resistance on enemy).
Matched spike shield and weapon and "best" (fire) spike shield: very tiny benefit + slight benefit. All for a very cheap price.

In other words, not a big deal. It makes a small difference, but not enough to fret over.
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post Feb 8 2018, 01:14
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Is arena "A Rolling Stone" worth stam? It appears that it and earlier arenas don't have token drop bonus, which, i suspect, could be tied to fact that first ring of blood starts from lvl 50.
Also why would T&T be better than any of lvl 50-180 arenas? Is it just because sapling? or are endround drops somehow better?

Does overpower count on offhand weapon? Additive?
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