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as i said, "at mods' discretion". the usual comparison between this and that have been discussed a ton of times, have not brought to a conclusion and more times than not it led to some attriction here and there.
furthermore, people is still relying on years-old data like if they were gospel.
For starters, how very nice of you (not) identifying yourself as a mod if you're one. I had to fish out this from somewhere to figure it out (or rather, to confirm it):
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/E-Hentai_VIPYou don't identify yourselves with a tag or what? The only one I was sure was DJNoni and because you mentioned him, as you made it look as if you aren't a mod in your answer (yes, I know that you're marked as one of the 2 board managers, but sometimes people forget to update information about ex-mods and old posts can remain forever at forums).
Now, regarding the issue: discussed a ton of times? Yes for you. Not for me.
That's what happens when you have a system where information gets literally buried because you're putting everything into a few threads instead of having dedicated threads or even subforums.
Not changing that will prevent it, mind you, but at least it will give you an excuse to complain, and it will also allow people who are curious enough to wade through some data instead of having to read a 600 pages long thread.
And let's not talk about Wiki, that nobody bothers to update with recent advice or opinions. And even then, I've read it quite thoroughly, but I discover new things from time to time like the Spawning Pattern thing that I wouldn't have discovered if it wasn't for the long discussion about monsters.
If it has been discussed a lot of times, maybe it's because it interests us (and I use "us" because it's a question that is asked frequently, I guess)? I want to know what to get, and if my choice is right or not. And if it isn't but is my preference, I want to know why.
If you are going to complain, don't complain to the ones doing the actual discussion. For starters, make it easier to find information in this forum.
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if discussing about a stable platform to run your software is OT, theorycraft about what *may* or *may not* with obsolete data and pretending to generalize the concept to all levels is even more. first step to discuss about that proficiently is to earn some more up-to-date data, and understand what's their range of validity.
For starters, OT isn't discussing about a stable platform, but I felt that things were derailing a bit when people started to talk about horror stories (my battery died, my keyboard deactivates), that wasn't about HV anymore, btw.
My comment, anyway, was done half in jest. If I really wanted people to stop, I would either have asked more formally (the same way as Uncle Stu has done) or filed a report.
Nonetheless, I'll tell you this: your answer was a dickish move, including goading a player to put "things on topic". Unbefitting from a moderator, tbh. Of course, you can do as you wish, as you have the banhammer and I don't, but it made you lose my respect for you, as a player before I knew, and as a moderator now that I know.
Of course, you have the bans, so the authority is yours.
And regarding that "theorycrafting" for starters, at least it's within the scope of HV. Horror stories about your computer blowing because Windows 10 has nothing to do with HV anymore.
Also, that theorycrafting is very close to a question that is asked continuously, as I've already said above: what do I get? What is better? Should I go Power of Slaughter or Protection? Are defensive builds a thing? (I remember asking a few of those myself after just starting).
Also, that theorycrafting helps the game more than just saying "get a rapier, stabstabstab" that was the general answer according to some people. And to keep stabstabstabstabing for your whole life.
And it ends up building data for people who know to have something to build their answers with, that can be reproduced by other players, instead of personal experience, that is pretty subjective.
Btw, we were switching to updated data. In fact, we were using Basara's most recent data (the one I fished out) that is from a few months ago, not from 2017 or 2018 and we had moved out of sssss2's data that is from 2015.
The spreadsheet I made is pretty fresh and actual, only a few days old. It still hasn't grown teeth.
That btw, I learned about them (all of them) thanks to discussions like this where someone posts a spreadsheet, page or link, not thanks to them being easily available for people to read.
And regarding the "concept to all levels", you couldn't even be more mistaken. At least my intention is to decide on my future build for further levels and the data level 500 gather it's interesting for me now. I've never talked about Imperil style for lower levels, because a level 200 players can't use it properly (only 1 target). At best they can hope to Imperil a SG.
OT you say? Man, it's in these discussions where, at least I, learn about what the game is really about because opinions are changed and people end up sharing what they have.
I said it before: people put more effort answering in these discussions than answering a newbie, so this is where the gold is.
But well, a moderator has spoken. Time to do something else with my time.
PS: btw, you complain about attrition. Answers like yours sure bring up the attrition in a forum, and you haven't even been part of the conversation between BWS and me.
Maybe, before asking people not to discuss about certain things, you should be asking people about education and being polite and considerate towards others. Something that I'm failing to see in this community in general, and yours is just a minor example.
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