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Feb 6 2018, 14:42
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igs88
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QUOTE(qwertypls @ Feb 6 2018, 19:13) For me, DW is fastest on SGs; whereas 1H is fastest on IW
QUOTE(as013 @ Feb 6 2018, 19:30) Even if you can afford some good mage stuff, you can't clear a PFest as safely compared to a 1H build. Maging a PFest requires extreme forging and using a lot of scrolls. On the other hand, 1H Protection (rapier shield fully forged) with around 10 forges each on armors can somewhat allow you to leisurely clear a PFest, albeit a lot longer compared to maging (20k vs. 5k turns). Also 1H forging is a lot cheaper than mage forging. For the same amount of credits, you can buy 400 HGC, or 10k HGM, which is more than enough to fully forged your armors. I don't know about other styles, but I doubt any can make you survive as long as 1H Protection. So throw in some money for a 1H build if you want to clear a PFest.
My build is 1H+power.. Actually right now I'm collecting the legendary power warding and protection, not all have same suffix. I'm building a better P/M mitigation, only rapier and body armor that have suffix slaughter and dampening shield... If I go for IW on all armors, should I go for Jugg (for sure I guess) and Capacitor or Jugg+(any)proofs?
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Feb 6 2018, 14:48
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Noni
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Feb 6 2018, 13:42) My build is 1H+power..
Actually right now I'm collecting the legendary power warding and protection, not all have same suffix. I'm building a better P/M mitigation, only rapier and body armor that have suffix slaughter and dampening shield...
If I go for IW on all armors, should I go for Jugg (for sure I guess) and Capacitor or Jugg+(any)proofs?
Don't bother with capacitor, you won't be needing that. Any proofs is better for 1h.
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Feb 6 2018, 15:02
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qwertypls
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Feb 6 2018, 06:42) My build is 1H+power..
Actually right now I'm collecting the legendary power warding and protection, not all have same suffix. I'm building a better P/M mitigation, only rapier and body armor that have suffix slaughter and dampening shield...
If I go for IW on all armors, should I go for Jugg (for sure I guess) and Capacitor or Jugg+(any)proofs?
Depends on ur play style. I like to cast confusions when there would be too much damage taken otherwise, which would cost much more mana on healing, and it took me about 30 mins to clear 100 rounds of IW on PF when I was lv300ish. I guess my shield wasn't good enough. It also costed me same time when I used Dovahriin instead of God Slayer, without casting too much deprecaitng. This post has been edited by qwertypls: Feb 6 2018, 15:10
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Feb 6 2018, 15:07
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Feb 6 2018, 20:42) My build is 1H+power..
Actually right now I'm collecting the legendary power warding and protection, not all have same suffix. I'm building a better P/M mitigation, only rapier and body armor that have suffix slaughter and dampening shield...
If I go for IW on all armors, should I go for Jugg (for sure I guess) and Capacitor or Jugg+(any)proofs?
Jug is essential for any armors. A lot of people hate Cap. Personally I prefer Cap but if you want highest defense, then Cap is not good. Holyproof is prefered. QUOTE(lololo16 @ Feb 6 2018, 20:39) Try frd. I cleared grindfest for the first time when I was level 350 with niten
PFest or IWBTFest or Hellfest? This post has been edited by as013: Feb 6 2018, 15:08
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Feb 6 2018, 15:38
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igs88
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QUOTE(as013 @ Feb 6 2018, 20:07) Jug is essential for any armors. A lot of people hate Cap. Personally I prefer Cap but if you want highest defense, then Cap is not good. Holyproof is prefered. PFest or IWBTFest or Hellfest?
Yes, I always got crit by holy attack, that's crazy damage... And what is frd? Sorry, I don't understand... On PFUfest my longest is 30/1000 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) but no draught/potion used, only SS, protect, and regen...
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Feb 6 2018, 16:04
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Feb 6 2018, 14:38) And what is frd? Sorry, I don't understand...
Should be Fus Ro Da.
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Feb 6 2018, 16:17
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igs88
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Fus ro dah...
I used dovahkiin some times ago and I defeated a lot so I switch back again to godslayer like the experts adviced me...
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Feb 6 2018, 16:30
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Feb 6 2018, 15:17) Fus ro dah...
Yeah, whatever. I never liked that dragon language bullshit in skyrim, so i of course i never memorized how that is written.
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Feb 6 2018, 16:41
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Void Domain
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If you are having problems with 1h level up is a good solution. You will have more block and parry than you know what to do. Casting confusions, sleep etc. is a waste of time.
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Feb 6 2018, 16:53
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qwertypls
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Feb 6 2018, 08:17) Fus ro dah...
I used dovahkiin some times ago and I defeated a lot so I switch back again to godslayer like the experts adviced me...
It's useless for 1h most of the time, but it may be useful for Niten.
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Feb 6 2018, 17:36
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sv24
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Feb 6 2018, 15:41) If you are having problems with 1h level up is a good solution. You will have more block and parry than you know what to do. Casting confusions, sleep etc. is a waste of time.
Confusion and sleep might be a waste of time, except for when you failed with silence on the tree, then sleep is your last resort. However casting weaken all over the page is rather quick and makes everything 50% less troublesome.
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Feb 6 2018, 18:52
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cornandbeans
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Feb 6 2018, 12:09) If I can't afford the cheapest legendary/peerless mage equipments, what style that can clear PFUfest?
Melee (1H + Shield) is safest style for PFUfest, but I think it can be very time consuming, especially your heavy armor are not good enough, and I would rather save money to have mage, rather than getting ethereal, savage, ADB>80% cuz they are costly too... Actually I am still noob (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) so if you find 1H + Shield is fast enough then you should go for it, as poor mage gear in PFUfest will consume restoratives brutally.My fire mage gear are still cheap enough to clear PFUfest usually in around 2 hrs(okay actually its not fast lol). Just in some extreme case(1 out of 20 attempts in PFUfest), I may failed in PFUfest 900+ rounds if I triggered too much spark of life before I imperil all monster and all my potion are still cd. And I don't think it will cost your >10m to have all of them if you are patient enough and have luck: Legendary Fiery Willow Staff of Destruction , LVSoulbound, IW 10, forged 49, MDB 69%, EDB 17%, EProf 73%, Int 70%, Wis 97% Legendary Jade Phase Cap of Surtr , LVSoulbound, IW 10, EDB 10%, Int 73%, Wis 73%, Agi 92%, Evd 19%, Pmit 22% Legendary Charged Phase Robe of Surtr , LVSoulbound, IW 10, EDB 5%, Int 87%, Wis 52%, Agi 22%, Evd 72%, Pmit 59%, CS 45% Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Surtr , LVSoulbound, IW 10, EDB 26%, Int 43%, Wis 4%, Agi 63%, Evd 40%, Pmit 53% Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Surtr , LVSoulbound, IW 10, EDB 13%, Int 16%, Wis 66%, Agi 1%, Evd 68%, Pmit 90%, CS 76% Legendary Charged Phase Shoes of Surtr , LVSoulbound, IW 10, EDB 22%, Int 22%, Wis 36%, Agi 94%, Evd 44%, Pmit 90%, CS 66% Just the cheapest elemental mage(Fire/Cold), very poor EDB, not perfectly matched staff(<1m, Destruction is a must I think, you can forge to 5 or forge more spell damage if you can afford), phase cloth unforged and try your best to find 2~3 charged phase/cotton cloth even if they have poor EDB, prof, CS (1-2m or even cheaper per each cloth), and you may need bunch of soul fragment, which you can get 60 max. per day. P.S. I almost give up my Melee (1H + Shield) gear after using the mage style, at least I think it is worth and cost effective. I have ethereal axe of slaughter(ADB 78%), Force Shield(BLK <20%) and 5 power armor with 1 Savage, 2 Slaughter(3 Power armor ADB>80%, 2 Power armor ADB>60%), I have enchanted my weapon to have 2 elemental strike(Wind + Fire/Cold), and it would still take me 2-3 hours(4 hours or more without OFC) to clear x20 SG Arena and The Trio and the Tree. This post has been edited by Lastwizard05: Feb 6 2018, 20:17
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Feb 6 2018, 18:58
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Feb 7 2018, 00:52) -snip-
Either I'm maging wrong or you have some hidden magical abilities. Isn't that build completely unplayable for PFest? Skip the fact that you clear a PFest slower than I do using 1H, I don't believe that my build has lower chance of survival than your fire mage build.
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Feb 6 2018, 19:01
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Scremaz
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no elementalist piece, lostwizard?
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Feb 6 2018, 19:02
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cornandbeans
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QUOTE(as013 @ Feb 6 2018, 16:58) Either I'm maging wrong or you have some hidden magical abilities. Isn't that build completely unplayable for PFest? Skip the fact that you clear a PFest slower than I do using 1H, I don't believe that my build has lower chance of survival than your fire mage build.
I have IA-5, all possible ability point used, J5*3 & J3*2. I can 100% safely clear all Arena and Ring of Blood. Just IW 70+ round and PFfest 900+ round(monster have too high attack damage) maybe risky and I have to flee in some miserable situation. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 6 2018, 17:01) no elementalist piece, lostwizard?
At least enough for me now... 592 Effective elemental proficiency (Eminent Elementalist enabled), I think taking 1~2(maybe too risky) cotton and a total of 3 charged cloth is still able to clear all arena(at least for me, I used to have 2 cotton with EProf 41% & >80% with 3 charged phase cloth, it just trigger more spark of life i.e. more mana potion & spirit potion consumed, and Spell Damage Bonus barely >200% fire) This post has been edited by Lastwizard05: Feb 6 2018, 19:59
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Feb 6 2018, 19:07
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Feb 7 2018, 01:02) I have IA-5, all possible ability point used, J5*3 & J3*2. I can 100% safely clear all Arena and Ring of Blood. Just IW 70+ round and PFfest 900+ round(monster have too high attack damage) maybe risky and I have to flee in some miserable situation.
IA5 here, J5*5. Arenas are of course easy after you get enough proficiency. I'm talking about PFest. I can do IW 90+ comfortably (after shit tons of forging, build in sign) but PFest 900+ is still too brutal for me. Do you use any deprecating spells or scrolls or rare stuff like vase/gum during last PFest rounds? QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Feb 7 2018, 01:02) At least enough for me now... 592 Effective elemental proficiency (Eminent Elementalist enabled)
I have 782, that's 0.71 prof factor with Penetrator 4 and I still feel the monsters can resist my spells too often. Did you sign some contract with the monsters so that they don't beat you up? This post has been edited by as013: Feb 6 2018, 19:09
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Feb 6 2018, 19:12
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(as013 @ Feb 6 2018, 18:07) Did you sign some contract with the monsters so that they don't beat you up?
Are we in SMT? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Feb 6 2018, 19:12
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Feb 6 2018, 18:02) At least enough for me now... 592 Effective elemental proficiency (Eminent Elementalist enabled)
with only base, perk and staff? wow...
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Feb 6 2018, 19:15
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cornandbeans
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QUOTE(as013 @ Feb 6 2018, 17:07) IA5 here, J5*5. Arenas are of course easy after you get enough proficiency. I'm talking about PFest. I can do IW 90+ comfortably (after shit tons of forging, build in sign) but PFest 900+ is still too brutal for me. Do you use any deprecating spells or scrolls or rare stuff like vase/gum during last PFest rounds? I have 782, that's 0.71 prof factor with Penetrator 4 and I still feel the monsters can resist my spells too often. Did you sign some contract with the monsters so that they don't beat you up?
It is a much for me to imperil all monster in PFfest before spell, without imperil my fire mage is totally fucked and bullshit. Thats why cast speed bonus ~30% is a must, in PFfest 900+ I just need to guarantee I can evade/resist or whatever trigger spark of life, but not consume all my spirit with 1 turn(I think it is nearly rare with 1755 spirit points) and kill me instantly. If I can control 1 restorative per round, I can wait cd and swap 3 restorative (spirit potion, elixir and last elixir which is seldom used) Spirit shield is also extremely effective in PFfest 900+, many killing blows are absorbed with 189 spirit each when I imperil monster, which also saved me. Usually T2&T3 spell can nearly kill all monster (>6 out of 9), I may either trigger 1-2 spark of life in imperil and T2&T3 or at most 3 per round. Such miserable situation that cause me to flee is 6-7 times spark of life triggered within 2 rounds, I may not have cd to recover my spirit. QUOTE(as013 @ Feb 6 2018, 16:58) Skip the fact that you clear a PFest slower than I do using 1H, I don't believe that my build has lower chance of survival than your fire mage build.
Maybe the reason I am slow in 1H PFfest is because I didn't try with OFC. I was a fucking noob that started to discover WTS forum after lv3xx, before that I never thought about collecting(trading) figurine to have OFC, I must admit though... Or maybe just because my hands and fingers are fucked that play any style slowly. Your cold gear is better than me, even a few monster resist spell, I think it may not kill you instantly, it just consumes restorative brutally. Did you imperil all monster(nearly all and ignore some strong monster) before elemental spell? I don't think cold T2&T3 spells with your EDB are not able to nearly kill most imperiled monster. This post has been edited by Lastwizard05: Feb 6 2018, 20:18
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Feb 6 2018, 19:27
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qwertypls
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Feb 6 2018, 10:52) Melee (1H + Shield) is safest style for PFUfest, but I think it can be very time consuming, especially your heavy armor are not good enough, and I would rather save money to have mage, rather than getting ethereal, savage, ADB>80% cuz they are costly too... My fire mage gear are still cheap enough to clear PFUfest usually in around 2 hrs. Just in some extreme case(1 out of 20 attempts in PFUfest), I may failed in PFUfest 900+ rounds if I triggered too much spark of life before I imperil all monster and all my potion are still cd. And I don't think it will cost your >10m to have all of them if you are patient enough and have luck: Legendary Fiery Willow Staff of Destruction , LVSoulbound, IW 10, forged 49, MDB 69%, EDB 17%, EProf 73%, Int 70%, Wis 97% Legendary Jade Phase Cap of Surtr , LVSoulbound, IW 10, EDB 10%, Int 73%, Wis 73%, Agi 92%, Evd 19%, Pmit 22% Legendary Charged Phase Robe of Surtr , LVSoulbound, IW 10, EDB 5%, Int 87%, Wis 52%, Agi 22%, Evd 72%, Pmit 59%, CS 45% Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Surtr , LVSoulbound, IW 10, EDB 26%, Int 43%, Wis 4%, Agi 63%, Evd 40%, Pmit 53% Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Surtr , LVSoulbound, IW 10, EDB 13%, Int 16%, Wis 66%, Agi 1%, Evd 68%, Pmit 90%, CS 76% Legendary Charged Phase Shoes of Surtr , LVSoulbound, IW 10, EDB 22%, Int 22%, Wis 36%, Agi 94%, Evd 44%, Pmit 90%, CS 66% Just the cheapest elemental mage(Fire/Cold), very poor EDB, not perfectly matched staff(<1m, Destruction is a must I think, you can forge to 5 or forge more spell damage if you can afford), phase cloth unforged and try your best to find 2~3 charged phase/cotton cloth even if they have poor EDB, prof, CS (1-2m or even cheaper per each cloth), and you may need bunch of soul fragment, which you can get 60 max. per day. P.S. I almost give up my Melee (1H + Shield) gear after using the mage style, at least I think it is worth and cost effective. I have ethereal axe of slaughter(ADB 78%), Force Shield(BLK <20%) and 5 power armor with 1 Savage, 2 Slaughter(3 Power armor ADB>80%, 2 Power armor ADB>60%), I have enchanted my weapon to have 2 elemental strike(Wind + Fire/Cold), and it would still take me 2-3 hours to clear x20 SG Arena and The Trio and the Tree, no to mention how long it may take for PFUfest. How long does it take your mage to clear x20 SG Arena and The Trio and the Tree? Just curious
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