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post Sep 24 2019, 12:28
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Sep 24 2019, 12:13) *

Sure, I could have a long list of things to talk about. I mentioned this before, but I guess wall of text.

Why is Hallowed considered to be on par of Demonic (at least, regarding prices it looks like it), when both are the same against SGs, but then Hallowed isn't as good vs normal monsters?

I've checked that monster table decondelite posted in the 1H research thread and at least, from the highest leveled monsters, only one had lower Holy resistance vs quite a bunch that were "weak" to Dark.

The lower PL you go with monsters (gave the list a glance, but my eyes were already sleepy from hours in front of a computer), the more equal spread the resistances, but my feeling was that Demonic is better than Hallowed by far , and then, found out that Cold is also a pretty serviceable element.

I saw this Average list from 700 to 2000 or so PL on that thread, but well, I think that the distribution gets different depending on the PL.
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Breached Defense, dude. it is not as strong as imperil, but the effect is a bit similar. Monsters die faster! Doesn't matter what type they are. But dont get me wrong dark mage is also very nice. Just not as awesome as holy mage.

For melee, yeah perhaps demonuc could be equal or better than hallowed on a shortsword ( don't wanna mention the r. )
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post Sep 24 2019, 12:40
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I was talking about weapons, sorry if I wasn't clear.

Mages are a completely different thing also because a Holy and a Dark mage won't use the same type of staff (Oak Staff vs Willow), so their damage makeup is different too.

And yes, I mean all melee weapons in general, not only Shortswords. Or are Rapiers different in that regard?

Still, my point is that you see people killing each other with glee as soon as a Hallowed or Demonic Rapier of Slaughter appears in an auction, in the same measure.

Maybe it's the "holy bias" that makes it "the best element" in most RPG games as Demons and Undead tend to be the high level monsters?


And Arkoniusx, no. There isn't any Peerless piece of gear that lacks Prefix or Suffix. Same for Legendary grade.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Prefixes

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Loot_Drop_Rolls

Regarding suffixes, all equipments of Superior Quality or higher have a suffix.

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post Sep 24 2019, 13:04
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Sep 24 2019, 12:13) *

Why is Hallowed considered to be on par of Demonic (at least, regarding prices it looks like it), when both are the same against SGs, but then Hallowed isn't as good vs normal monsters?

speaking of melee weapons, my personal impression is because of FSM being "weak" to holy. not that it matters much, since when you'll be able to do it reliably you'll still have access to a ethereal/void strike weapon which is comparable, but well... rumors, probably.
either way, yep - holy and dark strike (however earned) are on tier when doing SG marathons

QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 24 2019, 12:26) *

I also leave a question, a little silly but... there is something like a Peerless shortsword, I mean; Some of Peerless degree but without suffix and prefix?

no. as ahlroun quoted, past a certain quality all equipments are granted a prefix and suffix
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post Sep 24 2019, 13:06
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I would say holy and demonic are seen as best for weapons is because they mage the SG arenas faster/easier and they are the longest. Save time on the long road. But maybe it is just the same reason as why people pay so much etheral weapons and only because they think it is good.
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post Sep 24 2019, 13:10
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Sep 24 2019, 12:40) *

I was talking about weapons, sorry if I wasn't clear.

Mages are a completely different thing also because a Holy and a Dark mage won't use the same type of staff (Oak Staff vs Willow), so their damage makeup is different too.

And yes, I mean all melee weapons in general, not only Shortswords. Or are Rapiers different in that regard?

Still, my point is that you see people killing each other with glee as soon as a Hallowed or Demonic Rapier of Slaughter appears in an auction, in the same measure.

Maybe it's the "holy bias" that makes it "the best element" in most RPG games as Demons and Undead tend to be the high level monsters?
And Arkoniusx, no. There isn't any Peerless piece of gear that lacks Prefix or Suffix. Same for Legendary grade.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Prefixes

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Loot_Drop_Rolls

Regarding suffixes, all equipments of Superior Quality or higher have a suffix.
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Yeah it's the same for all 1h weapons. Demonic should perform equally well as hallowed for SG. Only konata seems to be stronger against demonic, but she's not that tanky anyway. Thing about expensive items, they work well for showing off. A big e-penis if you will. Perhaps that's why the general population likes holy more than demonic, because they are generally more expensive?
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post Sep 25 2019, 00:17
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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Will there be something like a Legendary agile zircon shade boots of arcanist?

Because I want to get that boots.
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post Sep 25 2019, 00:32
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 25 2019, 00:17) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Will there be something like a Legendary agile zircon shade boots of arcanist?

Because I want to get that boots.

no. pick a prefix. either agile or zircon.
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post Sep 25 2019, 00:47
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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) aaaah how dissapointed...

Well I preffer Zircon. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Sep 25 2019, 01:11
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I want a Legendary rainbow rapier of 1hit-kill. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Sep 25 2019, 01:25
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 25 2019, 00:11) *

I want a Legendary rainbow rapier of 1hit-kill. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


+1 Vorpal sword for me. Wait, wrong game.
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post Sep 25 2019, 01:42
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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I have nothing to do until 7 at night, so ...

How do you win trophies that some users have under their avatar? What do I have to do to earn one?
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post Sep 25 2019, 01:45
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 25 2019, 00:42) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I have nothing to do until 7 at night, so ...

How do you win trophies that some users have under their avatar? What do I have to do to earn one?


You literally only need to click the award to take you to the wiki article.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Toplists#Awards
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post Sep 25 2019, 01:48
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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) but I have seen several that can no longer be won because they are discontinued.

In your opinion, which is the easiest to win right now?
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post Sep 25 2019, 01:52
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When you mean something like my feather and cupcake. You dont win them. You work hard for them. And deserve them.
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post Sep 25 2019, 01:54
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 25 2019, 01:48) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) but I have seen several that can no longer be won because they are discontinued.

past aknowledgements of one's efforts, you mean?

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In your opinion, which is the easiest to win right now?

confectionaries.
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post Sep 25 2019, 01:59
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 25 2019, 01:54) *

confectionaries.
Dont talk like that about my cupcake, i did work really hard for it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Sep 25 2019, 04:04
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 25 2019, 00:48) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) but I have seen several that can no longer be won because they are discontinued.

In your opinion, which is the easiest to win right now?


Most of these are strictly meant as compensation for those who greatly contribute to the site for the duration of a year; they are NOT incentives for those purely seeking HentaiVerse or other rewards.

Don't bother chasing them for HV reward. Take part in the site as a whole for its betterment if you honestly want to put the work into helping the place run smoothly (tagging, for example), but expect it to be a very long and unrewarding grind.
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post Sep 25 2019, 04:31
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QUOTE(lestion @ Sep 25 2019, 04:04) *

(tagging, for example)
But dont do a bad job at it. Do it right, or dont do it at all. And yes, if you do a bad job, that will be noticed.
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post Sep 25 2019, 11:08
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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Quick question ... Are the Legendary equipment that are at the same level I am, scarce or rare?

I say this because I have not seen in stores Legendary shade equipment of my level. And I do not need anything magnificent, I have a whole set of magnificent shade equipment with 4 tiers each, and everything is soulfuse to me. So I need something of better grade.
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post Sep 25 2019, 11:22
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 25 2019, 01:48) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) but I have seen several that can no longer be won because they are discontinued.

In your opinion, which is the easiest to win right now?


Easiest way is to donate enough to get a GoldStar. It automatically gives you a bunch of confectionaries (and other useful advantages too, like reduced drains in monster lab, GP & Credits each Dawn, Haths).

Wiki rules here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 25 2019, 11:08) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Quick question ... Are the Legendary equipment that are at the same level I am, scarce or rare?

I say this because I have not seen in stores Legendary shade equipment of my level. And I do not need anything magnificent, I have a whole set of magnificent shade equipment with 4 tiers each, and everything is soulfuse to me. So I need something of better grade.


GOOD Leg at your (or mine) level are fairly rare; besides they cost more then comparable items at higher levels (say above 450).

By "good", you must mean not just the stats but also them being those most useful and therefore more sought out.

Plain normal Leg are relatively available above l.300, for instance Plain Leather or Plain Heavy, or Clubs/Axes etc.

You should try to open a WTB with your requests, you'll see. Waiting to see if exactly what you want will come up in shops/auctions or Bazaar would probably require too much time.




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