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aye. especially when at a point they become *so* complex one has to write them. what's the point in a 30-ish char password that you cannot remember?

aye. especially when at a point they become *so* complex one has to write them. what's the point in a 30-ish char password that you cannot remember?

The only secure password is the password you cannot remember.

[www.troyhunt.com] Extra reading on the subject

The short version is that if you can remember it, it's probably not unique, which means it's entirely possible & likely that it will exist in a password dictionary somewhere. These can be used for regenerating hashes at an extremely fast speed, which can be compared against a table of hashes should the site you're using be compromised. Even salted hashes are subject to this problem, since the salt is also generally compromised at the same time, although it changes the number of operations from 1 x the entire dictionary to the number of salts x the entire dictionary, making it marginally slower, but still a fairly efficient attack.

And the takeaway from this is that you should be using a password manager if you care about security (as bizarre as that sounds to the many people who think this is less secure because having all their passwords written down somewhere seems counter-intuitive). The article even makes a case for writing your passwords down in a notebook, because you're then limiting the attack vector to people who have access to that, and the chances of someone breaking into your house to steal a notebook of passwords is fairly low... perhaps unless you're a target for national security reasons, lol.

Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled programming...

The only reason I can think of is that you are directly discounting the damage you receive in those fights directly to your stamina, but that is practically impossible.

The more you lower stamina, the faster you lose it, you have to go back to stamina number 81, if you don't have 3 energy drinks, you will have to stop playing for at least 2 whole days.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) I accept the criticisms of what I am saying, since the truth I am only assuming, because when it happened to me, it was because I was losing continuously in the randoms encounters.

I see you learned nothing...

The reason nobody is entertaining the idea that it's a bug is that experienced players have never witnessed it and we all know why stamina could easily be lost in large amounts even while playing very little - with the primary offender, obviously, being Riddlemaster. In some cases people with slow connections can fail to load it, and depending on your behaviour loading an RE in a background tab without checking it could also be a cause.

The bolded sentence is also patently untrue. When you are below 80 stamina, you lose it slower - at a rate of 1 per 50 rounds, as opposed to 1 per 25 rounds when you're at 80 or above.

if you saw that it also included the potions and the health elixir right?

Also, I don't know if you know that those scrolls have doubled the effect of the scrolls you mention, all spells leave them at 200, making accounts come out better than spending on those scrolls separately.

The effects of the scrolls are exactly the same, besides the duration (100 turns for normal scrolls, 200 for gods/avatar), but often players will put up a WTB for a pack of protection/swiftness/shadows at 600c, while the standard price for a gods/avatar pack tends to be around 1200, working out the same. And if you're playing 1H, you may not want to use swiftness or shadows anyway, in which case using protection alone would be more cost efficient (and you can always cast your own haste or shadow veil, if you don't desperately need the increased effects from a scroll, which are primarily useful to mages).

This post has been edited by lestion: Sep 22 2019, 17:44

The reason nobody is entertaining the idea that it's a bug is that experienced players have never witnessed it and we all know why stamina could easily be lost in large amounts even while playing very little - with the primary offender, obviously, being Riddlemaster. In some cases people with slow connections can fail to load it, and depending on your behaviour loading an RE in a background tab without checking it could also be a cause.

^ this.
this is not the first time somebody claim that there's problem with their stamina,
there was somebody who ragequit because he think that people here accusing him for lying due to the same problem. never log-in again till this day.
even if people here wants to help, the only probable answer is due to riddlemaster, there's literally no other normal reason of losing dozen of stamina from just playing random encounter other than failing riddlemaster.
if it's bug, it's a localized bug to some lucky people. As anybody could see, nobody brandish their pitchfork yet.

For anybody who still insist that they lose many stamina from doing only RE due to bug or something, then the next step is replicate the accident, make a detailed log with screenshoot of your stamina before entering RE, the beginning of RE to prove you are not failing riddlemaster, and your stamina after RE that supposedly decreased by a lot. add timestamp or something. Point is, make a detailed account when the accident happen, even better if you could describe how to intentionally make the accident happen.
after that send those to 10b, as if it's really a bug then this is not something mere player -expert or not- can help anymore.

The only secure password is the password you cannot remember.

The effects of the scrolls are exactly the same, besides the duration (100 turns for normal scrolls, 200 for gods/avatar), but often players will put up a WTB for a pack of protection/swiftness/shadows at 600c, while the standard price for a gods/avatar pack tends to be around 1200, working out the same. And if you're playing 1H, you may not want to use swiftness or shadows anyway, in which case using protection alone would be more cost efficient (and you can always cast your own haste or shadow veil, if you don't desperately need the increased effects from a scroll, which are primarily useful to mages).

Exact Lestion, I do not remember any one of my passwords, but nevertheless I have them backed up in several sources, just in case.

To the second, lesion, he is not playing 1H style, if not DW, so he does not apply the counter-effect that is obtained with the combination of scrolls of gods and the scrolls of avatar, it is still better because he will be saving mana for 200 shifts, which he would use to be performing the spell heal constantly.

he's the boss of the fan-wiki. King of the Cunts.

ahh, so the kingdom of Cunts is finally upon us. now to await the rise of the wonderful kingdom of Cocks

^ this.
this is not the first time somebody claim that there's problem with their stamina,
there was somebody who ragequit because he think that people here accusing him for lying due to the same problem. never log-in again till this day.
even if people here wants to help, the only probable answer is due to riddlemaster, there's literally no other normal reason of losing dozen of stamina from just playing random encounter other than failing riddlemaster.
if it's bug, it's a localized bug to some lucky people. As anybody could see, nobody brandish their pitchfork yet.

For anybody who still insist that they lose many stamina from doing only RE due to bug or something, then the next step is replicate the accident, make a detailed log with screenshoot of your stamina before entering RE, the beginning of RE to prove you are not failing riddlemaster, and your stamina after RE that supposedly decreased by a lot. add timestamp or something. Point is, make a detailed account when the accident happen, even better if you could describe how to intentionally make the accident happen.
after that send those to 10b, as if it's really a bug then this is not something mere player -expert or not- can help anymore.

Regarding this, I am sure that it only happens between levels 200 and 300, because after and before that, I have not passed the bug again, it is more; Now I feel that I lose less Stamina.

I would suggest that the only viable way to find the bug would be to create a new account especially to be testing when the bug appears, and keep that account active until the condemned bug appears. The problem is ... who's going to waste time constantly fighting on that account to find the bug?

ahh, so the kingdom of Cunts is finally upon us. now to await the rise of the wonderful kingdom of Cocks

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Wow, the ads that are always appearing on pages to see anime, is your leader here?

It is an honor...

Now I feel that I lose less Stamina.

Yeah, but did also feel like been faster with an axe that had less damage. So sorry when i say, that your feeling isnt the most reliable source. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Yeah, but did also feel like been faster with an axe that had less damage. So sorry when i say, that your feeling isnt the most reliable source. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Sure whatever, It does not matter, the fact is that I am not the only one who had the problem, so there are already reasons to start investigating about this.

ahh, so the kingdom of Cunts is finally upon us. now to await the rise of the wonderful kingdom of Cocks

the rise of cock that is awaiting for cunts?

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Sure whatever, It does not matter, the fact is that I am not the only one who had the problem, so there are already reasons to start investigating about this.

still, there's a limit to what we can do - which is quite a small thing, and limited to excluding some possible causes on user's end.
try to collect more data, reproduce the bug or the conditions that trigger that presumed loss of stamina and eventually you'll have a report to submit to admin if needed

the rise of cock that is awaiting for cunts?
still, there's a limit to what we can do - which is quite a small thing, and limited to excluding some possible causes on user's end.
try to collect more data, reproduce the bug or the conditions that trigger that presumed loss of stamina and eventually you'll have a report to submit to admin if needed

The problem scremaz, is that I can not, because I am sure that it already exceeds the level where the bug appears.

I would suggest that the only viable way to find the bug would be to create a new account especially to be testing when the bug appears, and keep that account active until the condemned bug appears. The problem is ... who's going to waste time constantly fighting on that account to find the bug?

Would like to clarify that this is against the rules (and in fact is the first example listed of a major violation - see this table on the wiki).

Would like to clarify that this is against the rules (and in fact is the first example listed of a major violation - see this table on the wiki).

ah, right. i didn't even see that, thanks. yes, that's the kind of things that will award you a dossier straight where it counts.

Would like to clarify that this is against the rules (and in fact is the first example listed of a major violation - see this table on the wiki).

Well that's a problem, more than anything because I was thinking rather than the one who had to create the account had to be someone from the staf who was involved in the creation and maintenance of the game, not necessarily me if it seems that some understood. That of creating an account to test certain errors of a game is usually done in those ways, the problem I see here is that the error is very specific.

For example, to some it happens to fuck in a great way, to others simply annoys them for a while, but as mentioned, it is serious when it happens to someone who is starting on this and does not have enough credits to buy the energy drink necessary to recover 100% stamina. They should try to be more considerate and remember that this only affects those who are at low levels, and we do not know how well they are on credits at that precise moment when the bug appears.

*In fact, the reason the bug did fuck me up, is that I stopped playing 1 full day when the bug appeared, because I had to go out to do something. I can't imagine what would have happened if I had continued playing constantly when the bug appeared.

For now I remind you that the bug is no longer happening to me, but those who complain in a worse way than me, should consider their situation a little more, do not answer the same as always, even if it is not 100% proven, Indicate that there may be a possibility that they are running into a game bug, and that at the moment nothing can be done, to avoid what Fudomasamune put above.

This post has been edited by Arkoniusx: Sep 23 2019, 03:19

Well that's a problem, more than anything because I was thinking rather than the one who had to create the account had to be someone from the staf who was involved in the creation and maintenance of the game, not necessarily me if it seems that some understood. That of creating an account to test certain errors of a game is usually done in those ways, the problem I see here is that the error is very specific.

For example, to some it happens to fuck in a great way, to others simply annoys them for a while, but as mentioned, it is serious when it happens to someone who is starting on this and does not have enough credits to buy the energy drink necessary to recover 100% stamina. They should try to be more considerate and remember that this only affects those who are at low levels, and we do not know how well they are on credits at that precise moment when the bug appears.

*In fact, the reason the bug did fuck me up, is that I stopped playing 1 full day when the bug appeared, because I had to go out to do something. I can't imagine what would have happened if I had continued playing constantly when the bug appeared.

For now I remind you that the bug is no longer happening to me, but those who complain in a worse way than me, should consider their situation a little more, do not answer the same as always, even if it is not 100% proven, Indicate that there may be a possibility that they are running into a game bug, and that at the moment nothing can be done, to avoid what Fudomasamune put above.

Just report this to admin. He has limitless test accounts.

For now I remind you that the bug is no longer happening to me, but those who complain in a worse way than me, should consider their situation a little more, do not answer the same as always, even if it is not 100% proven, Indicate that there may be a possibility that they are running into a game bug, and that at the moment nothing can be done, to avoid what Fudomasamune put above.

What you call 'the suspected bug for lvl 200-300' is more of a myth than a "known but not 100% proven" possible bug.
the reason is simple, only very small number of people encounter it, they can't replicate it, and there's already probable answer to it other than "it's a bug".
Moreover, since the population that encounter the problem are low level-new player, it's easy to consider that the myth branched from a 'layer 8 problem', PICNIC, 'biological interface error' or whatever you call it. It's a myth coming from ignorance in some fringe portion of the game that makes new player think there's a bug somewhere that affect their stamina. The problem is on the user, not the system.
I'm not saying that new player don't know that riddlemaster could shaft 12 of your stamina in one go, I'm saying - like what lestion imply - that new player might not realize that there's various way and behavior that could makes you unknowingly missed a riddlemaster.

Your assumption that there's a connection between the bug and level is also questionable even on assumption level, as afaik there's no known mechanic to support linkage between level and stamina.
So once again that is just your usual - as uncle stu said - unreliable feeling.

And once again, there's no other answer to these question other than parroting what has been said before, it's a missing riddlemaster problem. At most people here could only help to guess what makes you miss the riddlemaster.
If you ask us to do more - like looking for the bug, then you're asking too much. You yourself who ever 'encounter' it couldn't replicate it, what could people who never encounter it do?

edit : talking about level, the only difference pre and post lvl 300 in stamina and riddlemaster I could think of is just the decrease in timer on riddlemaster (start 30, gradually decreased to 20 sec on lvl 300). Maybe there's somehow a bug when you answer after 20 second on pre-lvl 300 you'll lose stamina internally eventhough the game show a success. that's a pretty weak link, and pretty stupid bug if it's actually there, but any low level feel free to test it.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Sep 23 2019, 10:42

Complaining about this directly will be like complaing to sim card operators with their yadayada. Especially if it affects to few (insignificant) accounts which makes it not worth it.

I think the best thing they can do is to let people know. People believe it or not doesn't matter, as long as some people with the same experience somewhere can confirm it. Before expecting it to be fixed, think if it's worth it or not.
That's what i do, berserker anyway.

In some cases people with slow connections can fail to load it

That appears to have been the reason. On my computer, Chrome does this thing where it occasionally hangs for longer and longer whenever I open a new tab or go to a new page if I don't restart it every few days. I just intentionally failed a RiddleMaster to check this, and it took away 7 stamina even though I don't recall having failed one in a long time. Thanks for the explanation, and good to know that my account probably wasn't hacked.

failed a RiddleMaster to check this, and it took away 7 stamina even though I don't recall having failed one in a long time.

Afaik not the time since the last failed matter for how much stamina is lost, but how many of the last 10 Riddlemaster you failed.

-1 for the bug column then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Afaik not the time since the last failed matter for how much stamina is lost, but how many of the last 10 Riddlemaster you failed.

Yeah, I guess I didn't phrase that very well. I meant that I hadn't failed any of the past 10+ RiddleMasters I saw (the last one I remember failing, I only lost 1 stamina, so even if I'm somehow misremembering how many it's been, it definitely seems like there've been quite a few that haven't loaded properly for me).