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post Sep 21 2019, 23:38
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Well, at least thanks to what I am saying, once again the user can make his own decisions and improve as he likes.

Usually if someone does not come here and creates controversy, then they only give certain tips to someone and no longer delve into the subject.

Regarding the difficulty, I can already play in PFUDOR all the challenges of the arena, but I am not doing it due to lack of time, and because I still need a legendary weapon at level 10 of the IW.

In fact, stupidly speaking, I survive better in the arena with the DW fighting style, than with the shield, it is also a little faster, but I hate taking more than an hour, or spending potions when I don't have the time available to do so.


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post Sep 22 2019, 04:22
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If you have a Rapier of Balance and Shortsword/Wakizashi of Slaughter, it's better to use the Rapier in offhand even though this seems backwards. This is an unconventional DW pairing but should work well. There are many effective DW pairings besides the commonly seen ones.


How does Voidseeker Shard work exactly with off-hand accuracy?

Wiki says it doesn't add up, but it stills add the weapon accuracy, doesn't it?

I mean, slapping a Voidseeker would get your off-hand chances increased by 25%?

Shit, worded this wrong: I mean that it doesn't add overall accuracy, but the extra accuracy works for off-hand chances.

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Imperil won't yield as much improvement with holy/dark weapons or those who don't use weapon infusions regularly. Research for 1H assumed the use of weapon infusion, without it Fatality improves from a 2.2% boost to a 2.5% boost, and is a 3.8% boost for supers. Enemy elemental resistance can't drop below 0 so Schoolgirls don't get any holy/dark damage improvement from Imperil. 1H Shortsword obviously benefits from Imperil no matter what.


Well, everything is in that thread. How Holy and Dark Imperil are 25% vs 40%. You're right in that it won't get the most improvement, but you will get the best performance if used in those weapons especially in Demonic.

Still, the main advantage of Imperil is the fact that you can slap a 50% PMit reduction on 3 monsters at once with Better Imperil maxed. Using it to pin-point monsters is feasible, but won't use its full potential. It will still help you, though, until you proc the 3 PA stacks.

If the monster isn't dead by then, of course.

The elemental reduction is a very welcome effect, but not the main one.

Nonetheless, for normal arenas, a Cold/Dark combination will yield the best results. Here is the list that was posted on that thread:

[hvlist.niblseed.com] https://hvlist.niblseed.com/?selectby=class...&orderbyb=1

Now, someone confirm this but why, apart from SG arenas, are Hallowed weapons at the same level as Demonic ones? This table doesn't give me that sensation.

Sure, we are talking about the nastiest monsters out there, does it get better at lower PLs? Still, does it get better enough so that Hallowed can be put at the same level as Demonic?

And yes, you're right in that without infusion Fatality improves because the Critical part gets more significant vs the non-critical part. But well, it's also true that a set of Savage Power of Slaughter with a Rapier of Slaughter makes Butcher and Fatality less significant.

Using Haste, OTOH, makes Fatality more significant, as you will be dealing 2 chances of crit per tic.


Still, in the end, the whole point of this is to consider the potencies you're getting and your play style.

What is your damage source? That's what will define what potencies are better for you. B5F4 isn't always the best option for everyone.


My perception, though, is that Imperil gets better the more you're willing to use the full potential of your build and the game mechanics.

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post Sep 22 2019, 06:11
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Recently, my stamina's been going down even though I've done nothing but random encounters for the past few days (and I haven't failed or timed out on any RiddleMasters, either). I'm currently down to 53, even though just a few hours ago, I was at 90. Any idea what may be causing this?
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post Sep 22 2019, 06:33
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QUOTE(kdasny @ Sep 22 2019, 06:11) *

Recently, my stamina's been going down even though I've done nothing but random encounters for the past few days (and I haven't failed or timed out on any RiddleMasters, either). I'm currently down to 53, even though just a few hours ago, I was at 90. Any idea what may be causing this?
Yeah, no. This is not possible the way you descripe it.
So either you failed riddlemaster, or you do play more as just RE.
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post Sep 22 2019, 06:38
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Yeah, no. This is not possible the way you descripe it.
So either you failed riddlemaster, or you do play more as just RE.



I definitely haven't been failing RiddleMaster (I've notice the Blessing of the RiddleMaster thing showing up, so it's not like I would have just overlooked a failure message), and other than random encounters, the only things I've been doing are scrapping equipment, feeding monsters, claiming monster gifts, and training, but those are all non-battle things.
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post Sep 22 2019, 07:24
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Maybe it could happen to you, something that happened to me and nobody answered me here, they answered me exactly like you, but I think it is because it only happens to those who are below the 300 level.

First of all, they have defeated you in one of the battles you have been doing ?, according to your answer I explain what is happening to you
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post Sep 22 2019, 07:33
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 22 2019, 00:24) *

Maybe it could happen to you, something that happened to me and nobody answered me here, they answered me exactly like you, but I think it is because it only happens to those who are below the 300 level.

First of all, they have defeated you in one of the battles you have been doing ?, according to your answer I explain what is happening to you



No, I haven't been defeated recently.
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post Sep 22 2019, 07:58
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Thanks for Arkoniusx lololo16 decondelite lestion Drksrpnt. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I may use cure one or two times per round when facing 7+ monsters if my frenzied blows doesn't kill anyone of them in IWBTH arenas, but it only need some draughts and little potions, so I think it's accepable for me. I happened to play PFUDOR arenas(after playing PFUDOR "Flying Spaghetti Monster" and forgot to change the difficulty back), at that case I need to use scrolls of protection+shadowveil and cure+full cure+potions, at the last few rounds I even need to use elixirs and scrolls of life.

I really appreciate and understand experienced players are sharing their own experience here. They could finish same battles with totally different armors, weapons, forging levels at one certain level like 300, and they shared it to novice as me like "this(combination) works".

I believe most experienced players didn't slow down leveling up and started to test which equip/forging combinations is "faster/safer/cost fewer consumables etc." at low levels, so all I need is to choose one suggestions I prefer and follow it, and I don't mean to negative the others'. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Again thanks for all your suggestions and hope my questions didn't cause your unhappiness. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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How does Voidseeker Shard work exactly with off-hand accuracy?

Wiki says it doesn't add up, but it stills add the weapon accuracy, doesn't it?

I mean, slapping a Voidseeker would get your off-hand chances increased by 25%?

Shit, worded this wrong: I mean that it doesn't add overall accuracy, but the extra accuracy works for off-hand chances.


I've tried this as a DW player.

Enchanting a voidseeker shard adds the overall accuancy of the charactor, not the enchanted weapon's, so it won't affect the off-hand attack chance at all.

So if a DW player has two void damage weapons(both IW10 or ethereal), they will only need to enchant one void shard to either of his weapon for overall accurany bonus, the second void shard won't have any effect in this situation.

EDIT: I forgot to add lestion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Sep 22 2019, 08:08
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The only reason I can think of is that you are directly discounting the damage you receive in those fights directly to your stamina, but that is practically impossible.

The more you lower stamina, the faster you lose it, you have to go back to stamina number 81, if you don't have 3 energy drinks, you will have to stop playing for at least 2 whole days.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) I accept the criticisms of what I am saying, since the truth I am only assuming, because when it happened to me, it was because I was losing continuously in the randoms encounters.
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post Sep 22 2019, 08:14
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QUOTE(ashlikt @ Sep 22 2019, 08:58) *

Thanks for Arkoniusx lololo16 decondelite Drksrpnt. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I may use cure one or two times per round when facing 7+ monsters if my frenzied blows doesn't kill anyone of them in IWBTH arenas, but it only need some draughts and little potions, so I think it's accepable for me. I happened to play PFUDOR arenas(after playing PFUDOR "Flying Spaghetti Monster" and forgot to change the difficulty back), at that case I need to use scrolls of protection+shadowveil and cure+full cure+potions, at the last few rounds I even need to use elixirs and scrolls of life.



I quickly solve the problem you have in red, do not use so much, the only thing you have to spend in those battles my friend is only a combination of Scroll of gods and scroll of avatar, that creates as a perfect shield that makes it easy to finish those Last encounters without spending those things.

Do the test, in fact, you will not have to buy anything more than those scrolls, because they have all the scrolls you use combined together. You're going to save yourself a lot of credits.

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post Sep 22 2019, 08:41
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 22 2019, 14:14) *

I quickly solve the problem you have in red, do not use so much, the only thing you have to spend in those battles my friend is only a combination of Scroll of gods and scroll of avatar, that creates as a perfect shield that makes it easy to finish those Last encounters without spending those things.

Do the test, in fact, you will not have to buy anything more than those scrolls, because they have all the scrolls you use combined together. You're going to save yourself a lot of credits.


Do you know that scroll of god+avatar cost more than scroll of protection+shadow+life+swiftness+absorption ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) saving credits?
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post Sep 22 2019, 08:48
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Sep 22 2019, 09:41) *

Do you know that scroll of god+avatar cost more than scroll of protection+shadow+life+swiftness+absorption ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) saving credits?


if you saw that it also included the potions and the health elixir right?

Also, I don't know if you know that those scrolls have doubled the effect of the scrolls you mention, all spells leave them at 200, making accounts come out better than spending on those scrolls separately.
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post Sep 22 2019, 10:36
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QUOTE(kdasny @ Sep 22 2019, 04:11) *

Recently, my stamina's been going down even though I've done nothing but random encounters for the past few days (and I haven't failed or timed out on any RiddleMasters, either). I'm currently down to 53, even though just a few hours ago, I was at 90. Any idea what may be causing this?

Check your credits log and your MoogleMail to see if there is any suspicious activity in there. The only explanation I can find is that someone is playing on your account.
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post Sep 22 2019, 10:58
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QUOTE(ashlikt @ Sep 22 2019, 07:58) *

I believe most experienced players didn't slow down leveling up and started to test which equip/forging combinations is "faster/safer/cost fewer consumables etc." at low levels, so all I need is to choose one suggestions I prefer and follow it, and I don't mean to negative the others'. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Enchanting a voidseeker shard adds the overall accuancy of the charactor, not the enchanted weapon's, so it won't affect the off-hand attack chance at all.

So if a DW player has two void damage weapons(both IW10 or ethereal), they will only need to enchant one void shard to either of his weapon for overall accurany bonus, the second void shard won't have any effect in this situation.


Not sure about the rest, and I'm not a veteran or anything (only 3 months playing consistently), but I went pretty headstrong at my levels up to like 250-300. At that point, I stopped to think what I wanted.

Still, many people have told me that is good to stop your exp growth at your level to have time to gather some decent armor, credits, training and forge your gears.

I see that you had some issues with damage control. Do you use magic? I mean, Deprecating magic. Here is a list of the spells I'd consider if you need some damage control:

- Silence: first choice. Best if magic is your bane and also, if your Parry is decent enough, you increase your chances of dealing counters, as monsters that would slap magic on you will attack instead.
- Sleep: second choice. The only caveat: you don't get counters from them, but not sure if those are really a thing for DW, considering that you need to add Evade and Parry.
- Weaken: I used to spam this one before, they advised me that it was useless for me, and they are right. Can't say much in your case, as I'm a 1H Heavy and physical damage tends not to be much of an issue for me as magic is. But well, its main advantage is that the Cooldown is 0.
- Blind: reduces accuracy. Not sure how good it is, though.

Silence and Sleep are usually enough for me in PFUDOR DwD to the point that I barely need to pot myself, but I'm not sure if that would be your case.

Also, and I know that I'm being a pain in the ass with this, but Frenzied Blows look like they'd work better if you used Imperil before dealing it. You're close to level 310 (Faster Imperil 3), and that means you'd be able to target 3 monsters per Imperil. You could also swap that Rapier for a Waki (has better accuracy than rapier, you might be able to get Nimble instead of Balance) or a Shortsword (has the highest accuracy, no Nimble, though), as it's effect wouldn't be that necessary as before.


Well, all the above where just suggestions from a 1H style that has never used DW, so take them with a grain of salt. Not sure how they'd work exactly in DW style, but you might want to consider them and see if they adjust to your play style or not.

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post Sep 22 2019, 11:03
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 22 2019, 10:36) *

Check your credits log and your MoogleMail to see if there is any suspicious activity in there. The only explanation I can find is that someone is playing on your account.

should this be the case, would be a reportable thing. but be sure of this, before doing so
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post Sep 22 2019, 11:06
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QUOTE(ashlikt @ Sep 22 2019, 13:58) *

Thanks for Arkoniusx lololo16 decondelite lestion Drksrpnt. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I may use cure one or two times per round when facing 7+ monsters if my frenzied blows doesn't kill anyone of them in IWBTH arenas, but it only need some draughts and little potions, so I think it's accepable for me. I happened to play PFUDOR arenas(after playing PFUDOR "Flying Spaghetti Monster" and forgot to change the difficulty back), at that case I need to use scrolls of protection+shadowveil and cure+full cure+potions, at the last few rounds I even need to use elixirs and scrolls of life.



I mean, only in that unexpected PFUDOR arenas I will use the scrolls+potions and elixirs, and I won't try it again before I have some improvement on my gears. Also that situation won't happen in IWBTH currently.

Thanks for reminding of scrolls of Avatar and God anyway. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 22 2019, 11:08
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 22 2019, 11:36) *

Check your credits log and your MoogleMail to see if there is any suspicious activity in there. The only explanation I can find is that someone is playing on your account.


That is one of the reasons why password should have a minimum of 15 digits and have not only letters, but also symbols and numbers for more security.
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Sep 22 2019, 11:08) *

That is one of the reasons why password should have a minimum of 15 digits and have not only letters, but also symbols and numbers for more security.

speaking of which, it's been proven that the most used password in the world are "password", "abcdef", "abc123", "123456" and "111111"
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 22 2019, 12:24) *

speaking of which, it's been proven that the most used password in the world are "password", "abcdef", "abc123", "123456" and "111111"


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) If I know, only now that type of passwords is no longer useful, it is the first thing they put in, lately those who hack accounts.
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post Sep 22 2019, 12:59
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 22 2019, 11:24) *

speaking of which, it's been proven that the most used password in the world are "password", "abcdef", "abc123", "123456" and "111111"
What? No Master? No qwertz? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I dont believe you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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