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Dec 30 2017, 22:43
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(Zomnus @ Dec 30 2017, 15:16) 1. Try find guaranteed sub 5M dual potency seller
There is a thread on WTS asking 4,5M for dual potency for weapon recently (*´▽`*) Search for tonyi and try to negotiate with him. QUOTE(Zomnus @ Dec 30 2017, 15:16) I think I'd prefer a set cap on what I pay, rather than continue to burn a hole in my metaphorical wallet semi-permanently.
Also, look at Vivikinomoto`s and Kinights`s threads. They had logs of costs and runs. Worth looking __〆( ̄ー ̄ ) at how much you would be expected to pay for price-as-it-go run. This post has been edited by reality_marble: Dec 30 2017, 22:47
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Dec 30 2017, 22:55
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RoadShoe
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 30 2017, 10:00) I'd say let it ride.
QUOTE(reality_marble @ Dec 30 2017, 10:06) My elemental has been ~1.075-1.085 times my level since lvl 38X Right now, 1.087 and I have assimilator only at 2. ヾ( `ー´)シφ__
From the stats posted in that thread, there were people that mainly played 1H whose calculation was also around this much ~1.085
So probably what makes ┐(︶▽︶)┌ sense is a set prof/level ratio depending on your assimilator.
If it's a "fairly set" prof/level ratio, and gianfrix's opinion, the winner is "Let it ride". Thanks guys! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dec 30 2017, 23:03
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Zomnus @ Dec 30 2017, 16:48) -snip- The price of IW really depends on the level of service and your luck. Most will charge you 9c/PXP, plus the shards used. I won't reveal the final price of what I do on perfect IW for my part, I consider that it's a private deal. Let's just say that you should forget about perfect potencies if you don't have money and patience. And if you really want things to be faster, well prepare to pay so that your IW runner earns at least as much as if he was playing arenas. The alternative you might want, if you have a bit of time, is to IW your weapon yourself, and then send it for a Dark Descent reforge service. That solution is much less expensive, if you provide the shards. If you don't provide the shards, well it's still cheaper than the IW service, but it can quickly go beyond 500k if more than 30 shards were needed. My opinion: if you want to cut off the price it costs, accept a near-perfect potency, like SS1 or OP1 as 9th potency. Close to perfect is already very good.
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Dec 30 2017, 23:13
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BlueWaterSplash
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Your legendary hallowed rapier of balance has decent potencies as is because it can be used offhand for DW club. Let the buyer decide whether he wants to keep or reforge those potencies, and pay accordingly. But4/Fat5 is better than But5/Fat4 because you won't be soulfusing your rapier. When it gets underleveled the Fatality will provide more damage, and even does so by default depending on what power armors you wear. But definitely accept either result, and possibly Swift or Overpower 1. I don't know how much dual potency really costs but I've been doing a lot of item world (slowly) including recently and the typical 9c/PXP charges are about right (neither a bargain, nor overpriced). So I recommend you pay for dual potency the non-safe way. Pay according to actual costs and reforges. My instinct tells me even 4m is overpriced on average. decondelite just finished a dual potency on DCFulano's legendary demonic rapier of slaughter, so why not ask them how much it costed? Ahaha decondelite has said he won't tell you, as I was typing this. Maybe DCFulano will tell you. :3 This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Dec 30 2017, 23:16
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Dec 30 2017, 23:28
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lololo16
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QUOTE(Zomnus @ Dec 30 2017, 14:16) I think I'd prefer a set cap on what I pay
So, decision: 1. Try find guaranteed sub 5M dual potency seller; if not, Arios.
I don't think this is a good idea. QUOTE(reality_marble @ Dec 30 2017, 17:43) Also, look at Vivikinomoto`s and Kinights`s threads. They had logs of costs and runs. Worth looking __〆( ̄ー ̄ ) at how much you would be expected to pay for price-as-it-go run.
Right, if you do this, you'll see that b + f isn't worth 5m. Send it to ariosty but don't ask for the special price (5m with no amnesia)...
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Dec 30 2017, 23:55
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-vincento-
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It's not worth 5m. At least when I check vivi's records, 5+4 is usually less than 1m. Melee weapons do not have as many possible potencies as armor, so most likely the cost shouldn't be too much if the IWer is good. This is just my point of view since I'm not professional. Also I do forget that balance can be used as offhand weapon for DWers (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ....I should worth a lot since it has hallow and great stats.
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Dec 31 2017, 00:11
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 30 2017, 19:55) if the IWer is good all is luck (*^‿^*) there is no way to train RNG
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Dec 31 2017, 01:33
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BlueWaterSplash
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Strategy helps a little, but more with cutting costs on non-perfect IW such as with 1 swift strike or overpower, or also ethereal weapon going for a good element. With two potency it's more obvious what you should be doing and when you need to reset.
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Dec 31 2017, 02:11
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KitsuneAbby
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As an IW runner, strategy doesn't only "help a little", it is mandatory. When someone entrusts you his equipment and pays you 9c/PXP, he expects you to know what you're doing, to use as little shards as possible and to be transparent/professional in how you're billing him.
This is certainly not an activity that everyone can do. I sure can tell you that I haven't started this activity "just like that".
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Dec 31 2017, 02:36
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reality_marble
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even with strategy there is no ways to avoid dealing with the luck aspect ┐(︶▽︶)┌of course you use a certain strategy to reduce the cost to a minimum, but you cannot blame someone doing a IW for a high final cost because the RNG didn't cooperated ~(>_<~) my wording would be better up as QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 30 2017, 19:55) so most likely the cost shouldn't be too much if the IWer is good a good strategy will keep the price to a minimum, but the final amount of runs and shards will depend heavily on luck (*^‿^*) there is no way to control the RNG
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Dec 31 2017, 02:57
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Dec 31 2017, 01:36) there is no way to control the RNG
yes, there is. answer is 6 (which is a divisor of 42, btw. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) )
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Dec 31 2017, 03:37
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 30 2017, 22:57) yes, there is. answer is 6 (which is a divisor of 42, btw. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) ) i like how random number generation sounds like (*/▽\*) some sort of nerdy pop music group anyway, Uncley's rapier took, like, 70+ reforges to get a perfect IW according to him for someone with low clear speed it is worthy sending to a service ヽ(o^ ^o)ノ
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Dec 31 2017, 03:41
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 31 2017, 01:57) yes, there is. answer is 6 (which is a divisor of 42, btw. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) ) I was sure the best way to control RNG is ten.
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Dec 31 2017, 03:42
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Dec 31 2017, 02:37) 70+ reforges
God save us all from that kind of hell (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Dec 31 2017, 05:09
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sangerex
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Dec 31 2017, 05:17
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(sangerex @ Dec 31 2017, 04:09) ...
That staff is horrible and most of your gear is pretty meh, upgrade it.
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Dec 31 2017, 05:25
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VawX
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What kind of equipment that's actually worth buying from Bazaar, whether to use yourself or to sell again in WTS section mmm...~?
And what is exactly the ADB% and things in the bottom of equipment info means, and how to get/upgrade it mmm...~?
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Dec 31 2017, 05:49
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-vincento-
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QUOTE(VawX @ Dec 31 2017, 11:25) What kind of equipment that's actually worth buying from Bazaar, whether to use yourself or to sell again in WTS section mmm...~?
Most likely, they all trash. QUOTE(VawX @ Dec 31 2017, 11:25) And what is exactly the ADB% and things in the bottom of equipment info means, and how to get/upgrade it mmm...~?
All stats of equipments are rolled in a certain range. Higher rolls mean better qualities. For melee weapons and armors, Attack damage bonus is the priority. High-level players pursue items of high quality. A L rapier of slaughter with 10%adb might be bazaared, while a rapier with 90%, and with nice prefix may go up to 5, or even 10millions in auctions. Also noted, the percent takes legends' database as reference. So items other than legends and peerless might have negative percentages. Anyway, the higher the better. This post has been edited by -vincento-: Dec 31 2017, 05:50
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Dec 31 2017, 05:50
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(VawX @ Dec 31 2017, 11:25) What kind of equipment that's actually worth buying from Bazaar
Hardly anything QUOTE(VawX @ Dec 31 2017, 11:25) whether to use yourself or to sell again in WTS section mmm...~?
You might want to read a little in the Price check thread to see what people prefer. Usually Rapier of Slaughter, Force Shield, Radiant/Charged Cloth/Phase of non Protection/Warding are among the best equipment. QUOTE(VawX @ Dec 31 2017, 11:25) And what is exactly the ADB% and things in the bottom of equipment info means, and how to get/upgrade it mmm...~?
Let min_adb and max_adb respectively be the minimum and maximum possible ADB for a piece of Legendary equipment. Note that these two values, AFAIK, are calculated from the accumulated data of all equipments, not the theoretical values. Then x% ADB means that piece of equipment has an ADB of min_adb + (max_adb - min_adb) * x%. Roughly near 0% ADB means the worst ADB you can get from a Legendary piece and near 100% ADB means the best ADB. You can raise base stats by forging, but you cannot change the roll. So if a piece has 25% ADB, it will be that way forever. This post has been edited by as013: Dec 31 2017, 05:51
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Dec 31 2017, 06:05
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VawX
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QUOTE(as013 @ Dec 31 2017, 10:50) Hardly anything You might want to read a little in the Price check thread to see what people prefer. Usually Rapier of Slaughter, Force Shield, Radiant/Charged Cloth/Phase of non Protection/Warding are among the best equipment.
Ah I see, I mean the most expensive things in the bazaar is like below 15k, and the item itself is not horrible sometimes, Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter for example mmm... And I guess I just realize that I should totally snatch that while it's still there mmm... QUOTE(as013 @ Dec 31 2017, 10:50) Let min_adb and max_adb respectively be the minimum and maximum possible ADB for a piece of Legendary equipment. Note that these two values, AFAIK, are calculated from the accumulated data of all equipments, not the theoretical values. Then x% ADB means that piece of equipment has an ADB of min_adb + (max_adb - min_adb) * x%. Roughly near 0% ADB means the worst ADB you can get from a Legendary piece and near 100% ADB means the best ADB.
Ah, so that's only from roll mmm... Sometimes I saw Legendary equipment without it (saw it in Bazaar), is it just hidden or what mmm...~? This post has been edited by VawX: Dec 31 2017, 06:09
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