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Aug 18 2019, 05:23
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Uncle Stu
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I am no mage, but somehow i doubt it. The time (level) it is actually recommended to play as mage Leg equipment is allready in range.
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Aug 18 2019, 11:53
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FalconF
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 18 2019, 00:21)  And of course a waki i no 1H weapon.
Is a waki only for DW use? I don't have any legendary equips beside my waki and club.
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Aug 18 2019, 12:15
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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No, a Wakizashi is perfectly fine to play 1H... It'll only be very defense oriented, thus will have sub-optimal damage output.
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Aug 18 2019, 12:18
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FalconF
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Aug 18 2019, 07:15)  No, a Wakizashi is perfectly fine to play 1H... It'll only be very defense oriented, thus will have sub-optimal damage output.
So is it fine to request IW10 for the waki?
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Aug 18 2019, 12:31
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KitsuneAbby
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Anything is fine to request for an IW. The only thing is that you shouldn't request are reforges on anything that isn't a Legendary that you'll be using for a long while, given the cost of amnesia shards. I suppose that some players wouldn't be very happy either to provide free IW service on equipment that you'll use barely for a few rounds before discarding it.
PS: I don't provide IW for my part.
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Aug 18 2019, 12:43
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Arkoniusx
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Ok, I'm going to tell you the following because I already experience it firsthand.
If you really want more attack, what you need is a weapon that is improved in all its features to level 5, at that time your weapon will start to improve a lot.
Unfortunately, a legendary weapon costs a lot of credits to improve it to level 5 in all its features.
The following is that from a certain level, if you do not have a weapon that is improved to ITW level 10, you will forget about harming the enemy, since they increase their resistance exponentially and more if you play in difficulty Pfudor, you will notice that drastic change immediately.
What I would recommend is that you switch to an exquisite grade weapon, improve it to level 5 in all its features, and lower the difficulty a bit to improve its weapon to level 10 of the Item world.
Believe me, I'm still using the rapier that improves, and it's 31 levels below my current level, and it's still the weapon that harms the most in my posesion, when I fight in one-handed fighting style.
And I have 2 legendary weapons that overtake him in attack, however; They pale next to her because her ITW level 10 It gives you a concentrated and more deadly attack.
Only to improve a weapon yourself, you would have to have a spare one, since you are not allowed to improve the weapon you have equipped.
This post has been edited by Arkoniusx: Aug 18 2019, 12:48
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Aug 18 2019, 12:48
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KitsuneAbby
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No, IWing your weapon yourself at lvl300 is a stupid waste of time, on top of representing a high risk of being defeated / needing to flee mid-way. Make yourself a favor by having a higher level player do it for you. Why do you think such services exist?
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Aug 18 2019, 12:56
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Arkoniusx
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Really? With an exquisite grade weapon ?, they are only 35 battles in a row, and in Nintendo difficulty you get 350 points every time you finish those fights.
Also, if you already have improved the skills of loot and luck of the draw, you get a lot of good material from those battles. As if that were not enough, I got a lot of percusor artifact in those fights.
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Aug 18 2019, 13:37
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VawX
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Aug 18 2019, 17:56)  Really? With an exquisite grade weapon ?, they are only 35 battles in a row, and in Nintendo difficulty you get 350 points every time you finish those fights.
Also, if you already have improved the skills of loot and luck of the draw, you get a lot of good material from those battles. As if that were not enough, I got a lot of percusor artifact in those fights.
Why would you IW exquisite weapon though mmm...~?
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Aug 18 2019, 17:03
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Aug 18 2019, 10:56)  Really? With an exquisite grade weapon ?, they are only 35 battles in a row, and in Nintendo difficulty you get 350 points every time you finish those fights.
Also, if you already have improved the skills of loot and luck of the draw, you get a lot of good material from those battles. As if that were not enough, I got a lot of percusor artifact in those fights.
No, no, no. You've got it all wrong. The mere fact of clearing IW in Nintendo difficulty instead of PFUDOR is a waste of time, as it'd take you more rounds to do so. More rounds of wasting your valuable stamina to drop next to nothing, that is. Whatever your trainings can be. IW is really the one worst gamemode drop-wise .Think of it as going through the desert, sweating a lot, consuming your energy, all this to find a bottle of water that is about the same size as the one you've drunk on your way. Give a try at Grindfest: you won't be able to finish it all all (there is no shame to have in that), but you'll understand why IW is not a good idea to spend your stamina. The purpose of IW is really to get the potencies. Otherwise, absolutely all other modes are better drop-wise. Because you're not going to optimize the potencies on an Exq weapon, you might just blaze through that as fast as possible, with the minimum amount of rounds required possible. The only case when one might want not to go through IW at PFUDOR difficulty, is to optimize the usage of Aether Shards. Otherwise that's a rule of thumb to do it at PFUDOR, and you really should consider players offering IW service for free (or even with a small price) as charity from their part, as they're spending their time for you, while they could have more drops in Grindfest. If you really want to grind the game, then it's more efficient to do it in this order: 1) As many Random Encounters as possible 2) All arena challenges 3) Grindfest 4) There is no option 4. There is no Item World in the options to grind the game. I hope I'm not breaking your enthusiasm, but you really needed to be explained that kind of basics. Cheers. PS: Your stamina is "valuable" because, according to the Energy Drink market price, one point of stamina is worth around 9.500C. So basically it costs you 9.500C to go through 50 rounds, if your stamina is under 80, that is. Otherwise you can make only 25 rounds with one point of stamina when above 80. Do you really think that all the trash you've dropped on your way, for 50 rounds, is worth 9.500C? I doubt it. This post has been edited by decondelite: Aug 18 2019, 17:08
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Aug 18 2019, 18:50
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Arkoniusx
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(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Why I always answer when I'm screwed by the lack of sleep. Sorry, I had forgotten the detail of the stamina, and that I had already unlocked 2 of the last challenges of the arena, and only by doing those 2 challenges did I recover the credits I spent. And the important fact that I also have plenty of Energy drinks to spend ... Well, the point is that I did have the means to perform the ITW to improve my weapons, I don't know if FalconF has the resources to perform the ITW itself. This post has been edited by Arkoniusx: Aug 18 2019, 18:54
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Aug 18 2019, 18:59
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Noni
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Peerless shade IW at pfudor is an excellent choice for grinding experience though. Better than pffest for exp per stamina.
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Aug 18 2019, 19:45
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Uncle Stu
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You dont need peerl to get more XP from IW as from GF, a Leg is allready enough, maybe even a Mag, but about the Mag i dont be absolute sure.
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Aug 18 2019, 21:50
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SivSilly
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I have to agree with decondelite here. I personally avoid IW unless I absolutely want to MAX an armor or weapon and for no other reason.
I have a great many legendary and magnificent items that I could level up but don't. Why? Because fuck IW that's why. It just isn't worth the time & stamina to level up items you don't intend to keep equipped for a long time.
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Aug 18 2019, 22:03
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Uncle Stu
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I IW around one legendary item per week and i do IW runs mostly after doing all the arenas. More XP as from GF, overall more crystals as from arena, and when i just have the time/mood for lets say two to tree IW runs less then 300 together, i dont have to waste the additonal stamina point i would have to pay when i start GF, when i start a GF i will either finish it or make it at least up to 600 rounds but i am not allways in the mood for that, why should i waste the stamina for starting the GF if IW does not want any additional stamina at all? Also, when i start a GF and dont finish it, i just will some people free monsterlab gifts, mostly of people who have allready enough credits, i am not allways in the mood to give them that. So just saying, oh IW, there is no point at all, no reason, IW your set and forget it does exist is just stupid and wrong, just like telling people to forget any other playstyle but mage after you did reach 400. But hey, some people even do that, so i guess i shluldnt be surprised. There are reasons to do IW on equipment you neither want to use yourself nor sell or doing it for others. I mean i did quite some fast superior IW when i still was grinding tokens to fill my monsterlab. That worked quite good for me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) So, yeah. I disagree with the usual suspect. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Oh, nearly forgot, during a for some melee quite long GF you cant do any RE, so for people who still care about their fragments, this is not unimportant. Also what benefit does someone have from GF when he doesnt have any crys perks? I mean that is what GF is about, for without crys, IW does even completly win because of higher XP gain. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Aug 18 2019, 23:41
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Aug 18 2019, 23:44
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Arkoniusx
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And I move on to this issue to reaffirm the words of Uncle stu.
I also need to add that the Item world drops more equipment and especially several percusor artifact, and it feels incredible to draw several of them in only 85 battles, when in the arena a challenge with those battles usually does not drop even 3 .
And by the way, improving my weapons to level 10 has been the best idea I've had, since this increased my destructive power by 3, and I didn't change weapons at more than 65 levels.
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Aug 18 2019, 23:46
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(SivSilly @ Aug 18 2019, 19:50)  I have to agree with decondelite here. I personally avoid IW unless I absolutely want to MAX an armor or weapon and for no other reason.
I have a great many legendary and magnificent items that I could level up but don't. Why? Because fuck IW that's why. It just isn't worth the time & stamina to level up items you don't intend to keep equipped for a long time.
Pretty much only the weapon really needs to be IWed, when your armor isn't a Legendary you're going to use for a long while. The bonuses given as armor potencies are very, very optional and intended for defense maximization purposes.
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Aug 18 2019, 23:51
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Arkoniusx
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QUOTE(VawX @ Aug 18 2019, 14:37)  Why would you IW exquisite weapon though mmm...~?
Once again, Why not? That saved me a lot of credits in not buying magnificent or legendary weapons, and when I got them for free I could spend those same credits to improve these weapons. And not only that, increase my reserve of energy drinks from 12 to 21, thanks to the percusor artifact that I took out in those battles. This post has been edited by Arkoniusx: Aug 18 2019, 23:52
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Aug 19 2019, 00:08
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KitsuneAbby
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Exquisite definitely deserves IW10, if it avoids you to buy a Magnificent for longer, or at all. As for Forge 5, it depends mostly on the value of the Exq itself.
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Aug 19 2019, 01:14
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mega-wifeacc
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 18 2019, 19:59)  Peerless shade IW at pfudor is an excellent choice for grinding experience though. Better than pffest for exp per stamina.
But why exactly shade? I didn't get that part.
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