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post Aug 16 2019, 07:26
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Aug 16 2019, 13:05) *

OK, I've been using the dual-welding style for quite some time, and I would recommend that you always have a weapon with the balance prefix in your main hand, short swords are very good in that regard. And in the other hand a weapon with the prefix slaughter, since it will serve you a lot, when activating and attacking with spirit.

I was fighting with these combinations for something like 70 levels, and no attack was usually failed.


Thanks and how could I make my Primary Attributes?
I'm now making them the same.
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post Aug 16 2019, 07:34
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QUOTE(ashlikt @ Aug 16 2019, 06:26) *

Thanks and how could I make my Primary Attributes?
I'm now making them the same.


For DW, str and dex are the highest priority, followed closely by agi and end which are roughly equal, then wisdom can be left maybe 50-100 lower. Int is not necessary at all, so you can either ignore it entirely, or just put a few points in it when they're extremely cheap compared to every other stat (for a minuscule boost to your spirit pool).

I recommend you also read my previous post (the last on the previous page) about weapons.

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post Aug 16 2019, 08:32
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Aug 16 2019, 04:54) *

These 2 weapons are going to be my new combination for the Dual-welding fighting style:

Legendary Shocking Axe of slaugther.

Legendary Fiery Rapier of the balance

Is it a good combination? Just remember that I have no more Legendary weapons available at the moment.

It is acceptable, though it's not the one option that has the best defense.
Axes are mainly used by very high level players who already have a very high defense and can afford switching to a weapon that is made of 100% pure brutality.
Balance is good as offhand to have a consistent offhand attack, but it won't have as much defensive power as a Nimble weapon, and it won't give you the oomph speed of a waki of swiftness either.

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For all DW wannabes, there are two types of weapons that you might be tempted to use, but they are not as great as their name suggest:
1) Club of the Nimble - The parry is overly low, so low that it doesn't even reach half of a non-Nimble shortsword/rapier
2) Shortsword of Swiftness - It barely reaches half of a non-Swiftness wakizashi
So if you want to reach a high parry/speed, you won't get that with these weapons. For my part I don't see them fitting in any kind of build, because they don't excel anywhere.
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post Aug 16 2019, 08:56
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QUOTE(lestion @ Aug 16 2019, 13:34) *

For DW, str and dex are the highest priority, followed closely by agi and end which are roughly equal, then wisdom can be left maybe 50-100 lower. Int is not necessary at all, so you can either ignore it entirely, or just put a few points in it when they're extremely cheap compared to every other stat (for a minuscule boost to your spirit pool).

I recommend you also read my previous post (the last on the previous page) about weapons.


I've read your advice on weapons and attributes, that helps a lot, thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Aug 16 2019, 09:20
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Question, I have another person who has the style of one-handed fighting, with a magnificent grade shield and a full set of exquisite grade heavy armor of power, except for the boots that are superior grade but also of the prefix power.

Lately I've seen that I do more damage sometimes with the same weapon, which is an Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of slaugther that has a fire element as another added element and level 10 of ITW. But there are also others in which I do almost no harm, what is reason for that constant change in the attack?

And I always keep my set of equipment 100% repaired.

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post Aug 16 2019, 09:22
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Btw, why people are talking about DW but no one mentions Niten style?

What are exactly its strengths and weaknesses when compared to other styles? It's like a mix between 2H and DW, isn't it? It is also a light armour style?
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post Aug 16 2019, 09:41
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Very simple, the Niten style, only has one special ability, which is the Skyward sword, which is very good because it critically damages enemies, but it costs 4 containers of spirit, and that makes it pale in comparasion whit the 3 abilities which gives you the style of fighting Dual-welding.

As if that were not enough, that attack is not concentrated, so it does not work at all against the legendary school girls, while the frenzy blows attack, concentrates on the enemies that remain alive and distributes that damage among them, too It makes it when there is only one enemy left alive, which translates into massive damage, sometimes you can kill Yuki Nagato from a single attack without using Espirirtu if you are lucky. However, the Skyward sword does not do that, and it is pity for such monsters, it takes 3 times longer to kill them than in Dual-welding style.

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post Aug 16 2019, 09:43
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Niten is interesting, at least in theory, but Niten's big weakness is defense or lack thereof.

Katanas have no parry, so you're struggling unless you have a wakizashi with a high parry, and even then it just isn't enough to comfortably stay alive. Even with top notch light armors staying alive against large mobs is a massive pain in the ass.

I say this from my own experience, having previously been a Niten user and then switching to 1H out of necessity.
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post Aug 16 2019, 09:56
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QUOTE(SivSilly @ Aug 16 2019, 08:43) *

Niten is interesting, at least in theory, but Niten's big weakness is defense or lack thereof.

Katanas have no parry, so you're struggling unless you have a wakizashi with a high parry, and even then it just isn't enough to comfortably stay alive. Even with top notch light armors staying alive against large mobs is a massive pain in the ass.

I say this from my own experience, having previously been a Niten user and then switching to 1H out of necessity.


Essentially this... Niten sits in a gap between DW and 2H in terms of survivability - where it has better parry than 2H, but worse than DW (and also suffers from burden if you don't have access to an ethereal katana). That said... Niten is still pretty playable. It's definitely not awful.

Katanas do not have parry, no, but since Niten can benefit from the 2H parry ability, they may as well do. It still won't match up to a rapier/waki combo, though.

And yeah, as far as I know, skyward sword is not great. You can still use your overcharge on spirit stance to pretty strong effect though (with domino strike making it a better conversion of OC->damage than DW gets on regular attacks) and of course, OFC.

Niten players may also use Fus-Ro-Dah with a swiftness wakizashi off-hand and, if necessary, swift strike potencies for permanent stun. It's more accessible than 2H Fus-Ro-Dah (another viable playstyle) thanks to the wakizashi.

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post Aug 16 2019, 15:27
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 15 2019, 12:05) *

Monsterbation script, and then just copy all the summaries at the end into a spreadsheet.

Well, I tried this script and find that it makes auto-battle and seems to change the hot keys of skills. I actually just need some of the functions.
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post Aug 16 2019, 16:22
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QUOTE(FalconF @ Aug 16 2019, 15:27) *

Well, I tried this script and find that it makes auto-battle and seems to change the hot keys of skills. I actually just need some of the functions.

You can customize it so that everything is back to standard, but if you try it for a bit you will find it speeds up your gameplay enormously.
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post Aug 16 2019, 16:37
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 16 2019, 11:22) *

You can customize it so that everything is back to standard, but if you try it for a bit you will find it speeds up your gameplay enormously.

Indeed, but it makes me easier get killed bc its speed skips my defense/buff turn from time to time. Just wanna know if there is a way to solve that problem

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post Aug 16 2019, 17:53
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QUOTE(FalconF @ Aug 16 2019, 16:37) *

Indeed, but it makes me easier get killed bc its speed skips my defense/buff turn from time to time. Just wanna know if there is a way to solve that problem

Actually, there is a way. Hover attack will stop at buff expiring, and at low health, low mana, etc. So if you use hovering, you can't get killed by expired defenses/ buffs
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post Aug 16 2019, 22:42
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QUOTE(FalconF @ Aug 16 2019, 16:37) *

Indeed, but it makes me easier get killed bc its speed skips my defense/buff turn from time to time. Just wanna know if there is a way to solve that problem

check out the comment on the alertBuffs ('critical buffs' in the interface) setting, it explains how to set it up so you can recast your critical buffs before they expire
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post Aug 17 2019, 02:15
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Hello, Experts! I just cleared DwD on PFUDOR and unlocked dovahkiin. I know it unlocks the shout skill, but does it give up the plus 10% damage from Godslayer? If so, I'm not sure it's worth using for 1H where I'm keeping up spirit stance the majority of the time...

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post Aug 17 2019, 02:48
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It does take away the Godslayer bonus. That's why you see people with their Godslayer titles instead of Dovahkiin.

I realized about it after like 30 levels, at least you were faster than me.
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post Aug 17 2019, 02:56
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And because dovahkin is quite useless, i have to admit, i never even used it once, or even thought about using it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) So at least for 1H, i would advice to keep godslayer, there is just no reason not to. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Aug 17 2019, 05:19
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I have read so many complaints about Niten fighting-style, so will they buff it ?
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post Aug 17 2019, 05:54
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Not in the foreseeable future, no.
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post Aug 17 2019, 08:21
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If I were to unlock all Dæmon Duality perks would it be a damage increase of 270% or 50%?
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