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Aug 7 2019, 04:21
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ahroun
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I remember asking that, lol.
It seems that we won't be seeing clerics here.
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Aug 7 2019, 08:06
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Aug 7 2019, 02:21)  I remember asking that, lol.
It seems that we won't be seeing clerics here.
Every player does cast spells you know... And I do spam depr spells as heavy player, on top of supportive spells, if that counts.
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Aug 7 2019, 08:49
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ahroun
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Aug 7 2019, 08:06)  Every player does cast spells you know... And I do spam depr spells as heavy player, on top of supportive spells, if that counts.
No, it doesn't. There is a difference between a paladin and a cleric. Paladin/Knight/Templar/Crusader: main role is hitting and beating skulls, usually with a sword but other weapons are possible. Heals and supports as needed in a limited way, doesn't have holy WMDs in most cases. Cleric/Priest: keeps itself in 2nd line, usually, as his hitting ability is somewhat limited. Spams heals and support (not that we have parties here), but also expert on holy WMD spells. Both use heavy armor (paladins tend to have it heavier, but depends on the RPG). 1H Heavy types here are closer to paladins than to clerics, if you get my drift. This post has been edited by ahroun: Aug 7 2019, 08:50
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Aug 7 2019, 08:58
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DrunkSuika
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That's a shame, I wanted a cleric.
On difficulty: is there any downside to playing at the maximum difficulty you can survive at? Is leveling too fast a problem, since monsters all scale with you? Or just find something to Soulfuse ASAP and forget about this problem?
One of the first posts said "8. Do not level up fast" and it seems to imply equipment may start to become a problem, so I'm interpreting this as "if equipment becomes a problem, turn down difficulty and farm equips until you're good again". Is this a bad idea?
This post has been edited by DrunkSuika: Aug 7 2019, 09:14
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Aug 7 2019, 09:15
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//musubi
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1. is this sellable/auctionable? https://hentaiverse.org/equip/201829228/66c4731cd22. will reforging get rid of forge upgrades + item world potencies or just item world potencies? 3. if my hit chance is already >200%, should i still invest in dex or nah? it still gives me parry chance, domino/offhand and crit chance right? 4. what is the best spike shield to use? i don't need the evade debuff from shock spikes, so i'm guessing either the damage reduction from flame spikes or the action speed reduction from frost spikes are optimal?
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Aug 7 2019, 09:18
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Drksrpnt
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QUOTE(//musubi @ Aug 7 2019, 03:15)  1. is this sellable/auctionable? https://hentaiverse.org/equip/201829228/66c4731cd22. will reforging get rid of forge upgrades + item world potencies or just item world potencies? 3. if my hit chance is already >200%, should i still invest in dex or nah? it still gives me parry chance, domino/offhand and crit chance right? 4. what is the best spike shield to use? i don't need the evade debuff from shock spikes, so i'm guessing either the damage reduction from flame spikes or the action speed reduction from frost spikes are optimal? 1: Maybe, since it's a low level, but the stats aren't great. I wouldn't bet on it. Also 2H weapons pretty much need to be Ethereal. 2: Only item world potencies 3: Dex still gives crit chance, parry, and damage, so I would say keep it at or around your Str. That's what I do anyway. 4: Fire is best for melee generally. This post has been edited by Drksrpnt: Aug 7 2019, 09:18
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Aug 7 2019, 12:42
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hentailover6983
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As a 1H Power armor user, should I invest my hath into the autocast perks?
What perks should I definitely have, and which are more optional?
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Aug 7 2019, 13:18
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Aug 7 2019, 12:42)  As a 1H Power armor user, should I invest my hath into the autocast perks?
Well, should is imo a strong word, but IA I or II are a nice to have comfort. QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Aug 7 2019, 12:42)  What perks should I definitely have, and which are more optional?
Well, this depends how you play. When you never use even a single ED, Long Gone Before Daylight is useless to you. But when you use ED, it is maybe one of the best perks you could buy. But i would say Tokenizer is imo a no brainer to have. Crystarium on the other hand is imo only usefull if you at least have plans to level your monster at least a bit. The first two or three IA perks are imo also a nice to have while IV and V are more like a yeah, if you really care about save some mana draughts and a very, very long time for it to pay of. DD I is also a nice to have. But of course DD is more usefull for mages as for a 1H player. Yakety Sax and Soul Catcher on the other hand are imo quite useless. Extra Strength Formula can help you save quite some happy pills if you care about that. That's Good Eatin'makes the same for food, so imo it is of course less usefull because of much lower prices and only something one should go for if you really have the hath and allready have other more important perks. Coupon Clipper is something one could maybe never need if you just buy your stuff from shops with Clipper service, same price it only would took you some more time, because you have to wait for the delivery. Dark Descent is only usefull if you really care about your IW and you want to do it yourself and dont want to wait for someoneelse to do either the IW or the reforge to do for your. Because that is also a service of some shops. The proficiency perks are also something that is not really that important and mostly just usefull for mages. Well that should be more or less it. Does this answer your question?
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Aug 7 2019, 13:28
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VawX
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So, how much money do I need to spend if I want to build a rather enjoyable mage to clear arena in PFUDOR, and what is usually the minimal proficiency to reach that too mmm...~?
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Aug 7 2019, 13:30
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brokenmonitor
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Long time lurker, recently got into actually playing a bit.
Bought the autocast perk (Innate Arcana I) after a bit of grinding and saving (i'm still nub, forgive me), but when i checked the settings tab, it still says "You do not have any autocast slots.". Am I missing something?
Also, as a 2H+Light nub lvl 158 doing nightmare/hell, anything else i should be doing (or focusing on) besides grinding out REs, arenas, and generally trying to max the proficiencies (~190 2H/light armor, ~172 supportive). Wiki is a bit helpful, but info overload. AOE 2H attacks and skills is nice and chill so far
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Aug 7 2019, 13:43
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(brokenmonitor @ Aug 7 2019, 13:30)  Am I missing something?
Only your patience. It may take some time for it to appear. QUOTE(brokenmonitor @ Aug 7 2019, 13:30)  Also, as a 2H+Light nub lvl 158 doing nightmare/hell, anything else i should be doing (or focusing on) besides grinding out REs, arenas, and generally trying to max the proficiencies (~190 2H/light armor, ~172 supportive). Wiki is a bit helpful, but info overload. AOE 2H attacks and skills is nice and chill so far
Well, 2H is not really something i have too much experience with, so do you have any specific question about it? Because from what you wrote, that is more or less the game, so i dont have any comments there.
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Aug 7 2019, 14:12
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brokenmonitor
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Just the usual noob questions. Is there a relative checklist of things I should be doing (not just for 2H, but in general) besides
1. daily arenas (i'm not dying anymore, at least not on Hell as long as i pay attention and keep spark up)
2. REs
3. getting my proficiency up (if wiki says cap is 20% above my current level, i shouldn't worry about WEAPON proficiency too much since it goes up relatively easily, or should i be worried?)
4. gearing up (besides buying stuff off the shop which has both better damage (weapon) , mitigation (armor) , stats (both), stuff from the bazaar is at best, very small upgrade, trash, or stuff that is way outside my level)
So my questions (in no particular order)
a. credit usage (what to prioritize and what order? HATH for perks (and which ones) and/or training (which ones))
b. credit making (is daily arena + RE the best way ingame?)
c. item world / grindfest (when should i start caring about those?)
d. stats (mostly balanced except int, am i doing this right?)
e. how to mage? the cloth gear looks squishy
(also while i was typing this, the autocast perk showed up. just had to wait)
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Aug 7 2019, 14:14
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hentailover6983
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 7 2019, 04:18)  Well, should is imo a strong word, but IA I or II are a nice to have comfort. Well, this depends how you play. When you never use even a single ED, Long Gone Before Daylight is useless to you. But when you use ED, it is maybe one of the best perks you could buy. But i would say Tokenizer is imo a no brainer to have. Crystarium on the other hand is imo only usefull if you at least have plans to level your monster at least a bit. The first two or three IA perks are imo also a nice to have while IV and V are more like a yeah, if you really care about save some mana draughts and a very, very long time for it to pay of. DD I is also a nice to have. But of course DD is more usefull for mages as for a 1H player. Yakety Sax and Soul Catcher on the other hand are imo quite useless. Extra Strength Formula can help you save quite some happy pills if you care about that. That's Good Eatin'makes the same for food, so imo it is of course less usefull because of much lower prices and only something one should go for if you really have the hath and allready have other more important perks. Coupon Clipper is something one could maybe never need if you just buy your stuff from shops with Clipper service, same price it only would took you some more time, because you have to wait for the delivery. Dark Descent is only usefull if you really care about your IW and you want to do it yourself and dont want to wait for someoneelse to do either the IW or the reforge to do for your. Because that is also a service of some shops. The proficiency perks are also something that is not really that important and mostly just usefull for mages. Well that should be more or less it. Does this answer your question?
It really does help provide what perks I should prioritize and plan to get, both for and not for Hentaiverse. Thank you for the help!
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Aug 7 2019, 14:40
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(brokenmonitor @ Aug 7 2019, 14:12)  Just the usual noob questions. Is there a relative checklist of things I should be doing (not just for 2H, but in general) besides
Well, let the take a look at the list and think about it. 1. Yes. 2. Yes. 3. Well yes, but that happens by itself. And the cap is to your mostly meaningless, because the closer you get to that cap the less prof you acutally get, so i am quite sure, it is not even possible to reach that cap before level 500. 4. Well, i am not sure mitigation is really the most important stat you should look out at a light/shade armor. But i assume you at level 160 are still in the non soulfused equipment phase of the game, so maybe it does not matter too much. A. Well, i would say first priority should be for your to increase your income, so train those drop trainings, but only for a price you feel yourself that you can easy afford the credits, because they will all pay off of course, but it could take some time, so paying a price for them, you maybe have to grind a month or two for another scavenger level could feel like a waste, because the difference is so small. And i would not worry too much about the Assimilator training, so maybe some few levels if you can easy afford the credits. Metabolism is imo only something for the really rich ones, who have a shit tone of monster and dont want to spend to much food on them, but food is cheap so i would suggest to ignore it. Inspiration maybe one level if you have the credits, and enough monster to actually care about your happy pills, if you dont care about happy pills, or drop more than enough, just ignore it. Hath perks, well imo tokenizer is a really god investment. Other than that i point out to my post i wrote to hentailover6983 it should tell you everything about perks you want to know. If not feel free to ask follow up questions. B. Well at your level it is. C. You should care about IW when you are ready to soulfuse your set. At least doing a take whatever you get IW on your weapon is imo a must have. Even if the IW itself isnt good, the additional strike is worth it. Really care about what IW you get is only something you should do when you get equipment you dont have any plans to replace it anytime soon. D. Well for 2H i would say you dont really need that much Wis as you need Dex, Str, Agi and End imo. So maybe let that a few numbers behind. E. I am no expert for maging, but you should not worry about that at your level. It is really not recommendable to go mage at such low levels also going mage can be really expensive. So, level up, increase your income and dont make any plans to go mage in the near future. QUOTE(brokenmonitor @ Aug 7 2019, 14:12)  (also while i was typing this, the autocast perk showed up. just had to wait)
Told you. Have fun with it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Aug 7 2019, 14:14)  It really does help provide what perks I should prioritize and plan to get, both for and not for Hentaiverse. Thank you for the help!
You are welcome. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Aug 7 2019, 14:41
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Aug 7 2019, 15:06
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brokenmonitor
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 7 2019, 20:40)  stuff
Thanks. Follow up question/s if you don't mind. Do I need INT at this point in time (or can i just dump em into STR/DEX/AGI/END), and how much WIS do i need with respect to the first 4 stats (even with mana draught on pretty much all the time, i sometimes run dry, not often but enough to worry me if i drop my WIS) Also, stamina management (do i try to keep it above 80, or just feel free to burn off some maybe in grindworld since i'm not active enough to chase most of the REs)| Mitigation. I'm at 54 phys / 41 magic but stuff kind of hurts to the point of needing full uptime on health/mana draughts. Is this normal or should i maybe consider dropping those debuff things on the enemies i cant nuke in a few turns and/or fights with way too many enemies at once?
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Aug 7 2019, 15:22
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(brokenmonitor @ Aug 7 2019, 15:06)  Thanks. Follow up question/s if you don't mind.
You are welcome and of course not. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(brokenmonitor @ Aug 7 2019, 15:06)  Do I need INT at this point in time (or can i just dump em into STR/DEX/AGI/END), and how much WIS do i need with respect to the first 4 stats (even with mana draught on pretty much all the time, i sometimes run dry, not often but enough to worry me if i drop my WIS)
No, as any melee fighter you dont need Int at all. All it does is give you a few cheap spirit points. So spend a few xp into Int, and i really just mean a few, doesnt hurt you on the other hand. Because Int has nothing to do with mana cost or mana gain or MP at all. That has only to do with Wis, Interference and when you use IA your support prof. QUOTE(brokenmonitor @ Aug 7 2019, 15:06)  Also, stamina management (do i try to keep it above 80, or just feel free to burn off some maybe in grindworld since i'm not active enough to chase most of the REs)|
Well the interesting thing about the 80 stamina line is, above your use double the stamina. You only get 25 rounds out of a single stamina point while below 80 you get even 50 rounds out of it. And i am not sure if if you now mean grindfest or item world, but you should not bother with both of them at your level. Grindfest cost 1 stamina point to start, and the only thing that is really special about it is the additional crystals, but that is something that only pays of when you can go deep into it and/or have some crys perks. IW on the other hand uses all the needed stamina to clear it right from the start, so it should not be started unless you will finish it to not waste you stamina. And both cases you get less credits from them as from arenas, so you should not do them unless you have allready finished your arenas. Or later on when you can and want to really grind some crystals or to fully IW your equipment. QUOTE(brokenmonitor @ Aug 7 2019, 15:06)  Mitigation. I'm at 54 phys / 41 magic but stuff kind of hurts to the point of needing full uptime on health/mana draughts. Is this normal or should i maybe consider dropping those debuff things on the enemies i cant nuke in a few turns and/or fights with way too many enemies at once?
Well, 2H light is not really the most defensive build out there. I mean really low parry, no block and unless you are able to soulfuse and forge your equipment just average evade and resist. So no really a lot of chances to avoid damage completly and without forging you are also not really able to increase your mitigation by quite a bit. Imo 2D because of much higher parry or 1H because of block still higher parry as 2H and higher mitigations because of heavy armor are both better for starters. Most low level 2H player rely heavily on the stun of their mace, something i can understand, but dont think very highly of, because it limits you to a weapon i am quite sure no high level 2H player does actually use. And even when you could debuff the monster you are fighting, that would only slow down your clearing speed by quite a bit. And by that of course the numbers of rounds your can clear per day and by that of course will decrease your income. So i am not a big fan of suggesting that to low level player. Even if it would allow you to play on a higher difficulty and increase your income by that, playing less on a higher difficulty could in the end just mean having the same overall income or even less. Btw, i suggest you to get the OFC if you dont allready have it. It is imo a quite good investion to speed up your clearing speed.
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Aug 7 2019, 15:25
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VawX
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QUOTE(brokenmonitor @ Aug 7 2019, 20:06)  Blep
-INT: not really, all melee build can actually leave INT to 1 and not upgrading it at all -WIS: I already kinda forget about 2H, but it should be kinda lower than all 4, but considering the exp cost improved exponentially, keeping it close should be more beneficial -Stamina: at your level the first thing you should do is ofc clear all arena possible with highest difficulty you can handle, get as many REs as possible. Do the hardest arena first while your stamina is still high so you can get double the exp. Try to clear all Ring of Blood at any difficulty ONCE, and keep the Token of Blood to spam the Flying Spaghetti Monster later on since it gives the most money per token. Mitigation: so you're using 2H yeah? try to get Protection and Shadow Veil skill to boost your defense and evasion. Weaken is also kinda good to help your survivability but it should be hard to land so just consider it as upgrading depreciating proficiency level.
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Aug 7 2019, 15:29
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ahroun
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Remember that if you fucked up your stat distribution, you can reduce 10 points a day from one stat.
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Aug 7 2019, 15:35
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Aug 7 2019, 15:29)  Remember that if you fucked up your stat distribution, you can reduce 10 points a day from one stat.
Or just use another personna if your really fucked yout stat distribution up that much and play with that, while you still can clear up the other one while you allready can play with the new one.
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Aug 7 2019, 15:39
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brokenmonitor
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Is there a cheap / easy way to get the OFC besides relying on being lucky for drops (or buying em off other players, if that's a thing)
And i'm usually switching between 2H sword and katana because of the AOE DOT bleeds, depending on what the bazaar/drop gives me. Stunning everyone sounds fun though
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