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post Feb 2 2018, 17:52
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What's recommendable to have before trying mage? (proficiency, gears, level, etc)? I tried a low lv arena on PFUDOR and got rekt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .


Level: 310, that's when you get 0 cd Imperil.
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- Anything lower than IWTBH, a mix of Legend and Mag is fine.
- IWTBH & PFUDOR, full Legend with J5 on each + forge 5 times on each piece.
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post Feb 2 2018, 17:56
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QUOTE(Paff444 @ Feb 2 2018, 10:30) *
What's recommendable to have before trying mage? (proficiency, gears, level, etc)? I tried a low lv arena on PFUDOR and got rekt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

You don't need anything before playing a style. The proficiency system prevents just that. If your gear is weak you'll just have to use more debuffs (sleep and confuse).
Prof is more important on pfudor because the cast speed bonus makes a humongous difference. Grab whatever staff has the highest edb and mdb, put on five phase, same element of course, and swap one phase for one prof until you hit the ratio that lets you win. Use in-battle infusions.

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post Feb 2 2018, 18:49
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QUOTE(Paff444 @ Feb 2 2018, 16:30) *

What's recommendable to have before trying mage? (proficiency, gears, level, etc)? I tried a low lv arena on PFUDOR and got rekt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_...Getting_Started

a step by step guide on trying mage can be found on our beloved Wiki.
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post Feb 2 2018, 19:32
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post Feb 2 2018, 20:21
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By whom? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I like the wiki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 2 2018, 20:46
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https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Hath_Perks
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Stat Perks
Vigorous Vitality -> Effluent Ether -> Suffusive Spirit

EE/VV/SS increases your base HP/MP/SP, so restorative items will have a greater impact.
Mages can skip SS as it carries no major benefit for them.


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Stat Perks
Vigorous Vitality -> Effluent Ether

VV/EE increases your base HP/MP, so restorative items will have a greater impact.
Melee can skip EE as it carries no major benefit for them.

Suffusive Spirit (SS) is of no major benefit to anyone and is a waste of Hath.


I don't think we should be suggesting to players that ~4m credits worth of Hath should be invested into something that does nothing but a very tiny boost to Spirit Stance duration for one playstyle only.

I think it would even be a waste of time and misleading to include a line to the effect of "if you play 1h style, you might possibly spend enough time in Spirit Stance in really long fights to occasionally see benefit from this perk."
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post Feb 2 2018, 22:54
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Feb 2 2018, 16:21) *

I like the wiki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Done ヽ(*・ω・)ノ me + he = our

QUOTE(UnknowDestroyer @ Feb 2 2018, 13:52) *

Level: 310, that's when you get 0 cd Imperil.
Gear:
- Anything lower than IWTBH, a mix of Legend and Mag is fine.
- IWTBH & PFUDOR, full Legend with J5 on each + forge 5 times on each piece.

Is possible to survive well in early arenas with mag and exquisite equip even if your pieces are decent and not super far from your level.<( ̄︶ ̄)>
I used to do IWBTH RE with this kind of set to raise my staff and cloth prof.

All the rest apply for serious result oriented play and clearing middle to late arenas.

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post Feb 2 2018, 23:40
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Feb 2 2018, 19:46) *

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Hath_Perks
Should be updated to:
I don't think we should be suggesting to players that ~4m credits worth of Hath should be invested into something that does nothing but a very tiny boost to Spirit Stance duration for one playstyle only.

I think it would even be a waste of time and misleading to include a line to the effect of "if you play 1h style, you might possibly spend enough time in Spirit Stance in really long fights to occasionally see benefit from this perk."

thanks. This is what I did: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_...nced#Stat_Perks
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post Feb 3 2018, 01:33
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post Feb 3 2018, 06:26
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Is possible to survive well in early arenas with mag and exquisite equip even if your pieces are decent and not super far from your level.<( ̄︶ ̄)>
I used to do IWBTH RE with this kind of set to raise my staff and cloth prof.



How far that can be tolerated? My equipments are 40-60 level below my level.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I only fused my weapon+shield, others are waiting for sufficients soul frags...

I read the old wiki but I still want to know from experts here...
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post Feb 3 2018, 06:34
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Feb 3 2018, 11:26) *

How far that can be tolerated? My equipments are 40-60 level below my level.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I only fused my weapon+shield, others are waiting for sufficients soul frags...

I read the old wiki but I still want to know from experts here...


When in doubt, 1H mage. Basically mage with 1h weap + shield instead of a staff.
A.k.a:
- Get a waki (with the desired elemental prefix of the elemental spell you are gonna use & the highest parry you can get). Nimble or Battlecaster suffix is preferred.
- Get a buckler. Best prefix: Reinforced. Best suffix: Barrier; 2nd best: Battlecaster.
Remember to put 1H Block on your Abilities slot.
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post Feb 3 2018, 06:34
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Well i am not sure, because i was never in the situation that i did outlevel my equipment that far. 60 Level below is imo outside of any tolerance i could imagen.
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post Feb 3 2018, 06:56
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QUOTE(UnknowDestroyer @ Feb 3 2018, 11:34) *

When in doubt, 1H mage. Basically mage with 1h weap + shield instead of a staff.
A.k.a:
- Get a waki (with the desired elemental prefix of the elemental spell you are gonna use & the highest parry you can get). Nimble or Battlecaster suffix is preferred.
- Get a buckler. Best prefix: Reinforced. Best suffix: Barrier; 2nd best: Battlecaster.
Remember to put 1H Block on your Abilities slot.


I use 1hand+shield+power armor, I fused my rapier and force shield so my big problem is on my other equips those are seems too far below my level (lv.298-325)

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 3 2018, 11:34) *

Well i am not sure, because i was never in the situation that i did outlevel my equipment that far. 60 Level below is imo outside of any tolerance i could imagen.


Thank you for the advice.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Soulfrags... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


Edit : because I feel like I will win (?) the demonic rapier, what is the best elemental spike shield for dark strike? Asking for just in case if I win

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post Feb 3 2018, 08:07
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Feb 2 2018, 20:56) *

I use 1hand+shield+power armor, I fused my rapier and force shield so my big problem is on my other equips those are seems too far below my level (lv.298-325)

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Edit : because I feel like I will win (?) the demonic rapier, what is the best elemental spike shield for dark strike? Asking for just in case if I win


1h+heavy and 1h+cloth are different builds.

His advice is to go with 1h+cloth to build proficiency in cloth and your spells. Even though it uses "1h" it needs different equipment than 1h+heavy needs.

Wakizashi is the most defensive melee weapon. It does the least damage, but it has attack speed (which doesn't matter for 1h+cloth, actually) and parry. Supposedly has a slight advantage in EDB. But I imagine a rapier or shortsword of nimble/battlecaster could serve alright. Just get one with good parry and the right elemental strike. Remember, you're not stabbing and slashing with this weapon, so attack speed and ADB are unimportant. Ethereal is entirely useless. You want the EDB from a true elemental strike to make your spells hit harder.

Bucklers have low interference/burden, and if they're of barrier suffix, they can get pretty good block. Not as good as force, but much less interference than a force shield. This gives you a good amount of defense without making your spells as costly to cast as they would be with a force shield.

Then you wear the best cloth for your element that you can get.

This build doesn't produce as much damage as a staff+cloth mage, because staves give a lot of MDB and EDB and prof. But it is way more durable because you get a fair amount of evade (from cloth), parry (from your weapon and DEX), and block (from your shield). Along with counters stunning opponents to reduce their offense even further.

As for your soul fragment issue:
Don't soulfuse everything. That isn't the solution to all your problems. Buy new gear that is your new level or slightly above your level. Trade out gear for stuff. Only soulfuse really good gear with really high base stats.

Instead of trying to level as fast as you can, lower difficulty and clear more arenas to get more loot. Earn more credits to afford more upgrades.

If you clear only the SG arenas (highest three) each day and however many REs as you can stand, and do all that on PFUDOR, you will earn more credits than if you do exactly the same stuff on IWBTH or lower. However, if you lower difficulty and do all that and the next 5 arenas down, you earn more total credits.

The clear bonuses for arenas are where most of your income will be. Those are not reduced or raised by difficulty setting.

And last but not least, your Demonic Rapier question:
Fire shield.

There is no holy/dark shield. Fire shiel reduces enemy damage, which is the best effect out of the four to use with 1h+heavy. The reduction to element defense your enemies suffer from it won't really matter as much to you. But because fire shield is slightly better than the other three, that is the sole reason why people like arctic rapiers better than wind, electric, or fire rapiers. People still tend to prefer holy and dark rapiers because SGs have a weakness to those elements which can't be reduced any further anyway. Reductions to elemental defense such as from fire shield and Imperil can't reduce that defense below 0.

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post Feb 3 2018, 10:58
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^^

Thank you very much..
Your explanation is the best... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Which one is the most important of a weapon, ADB or bonus strength? I saw one rapier has high piercing damage with low bonus strength and one with vice versa...

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^^

Thank you very much..
Your explanation is the best... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Which one is the most important of a weapon, ADB or bonus strength? I saw one rapier has high piercing damage with low bonus strength and one with vice versa...


ADB. You only factor in Str% and Dex% if the ADB% is close to each other +-3-5%
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QUOTE(UnknowDestroyer @ Feb 3 2018, 11:34) *

When in doubt, 1H mage. Basically mage with 1h weap + shield instead of a staff.
A.k.a:
- Get a waki (with the desired elemental prefix of the elemental spell you are gonna use & the highest parry you can get). Nimble or Battlecaster suffix is preferred.
- Get a buckler. Best prefix: Reinforced. Best suffix: Barrier; 2nd best: Battlecaster.
Remember to put 1H Block on your Abilities slot.


1H mage is great for ffest and arena except SG arena, because I am elec 1H mage.

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post Feb 3 2018, 14:35
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Feb 3 2018, 07:56) *

I use 1hand+shield+power armor, I fused my rapier and force shield so my big problem is on my other equips those are seems too far below my level (lv.298-325)

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Your problems are mainly consequence of your choice of leveling too fast.

That means you have to change a lot of gear frequently, and increasingly expensive gear, just to stay LOWER than your level.

You don't farm enough soulfrags to soulfuse more than 1/2 pieces, that they ar already obsolete and must be changed (loosing both the frags and the possibility of reselling).

So you're whining and you're broke, but it's a consequence of your own actions, my boy.
This game is not a kill-em-all fast action game, you better use some patience.

For instance, I'm willingly playing REs on normal since two months now, so as I can farm soulfrags without increasing my level too much; this way I'm building up all the soulfused equips & weapons I need for my different styles. When I'm finished, I'll probably be just lv.240 or so but will have 3 full sets of armours, staff and most 1h/2h weapons all mag+ and soulfused (almost no rares like power, shade, etc. those are for higher levels when income is steadier).

Then I'll just push the difficulty to the max, and will do what I didn't before, more easily and quickly, without having to buy things every 20 lvl or so. Things will be easier when I'll reach your current level, because I didn't hurry and made preparations, you see ?
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post Feb 3 2018, 14:53
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You don't need to keep doing RE on Normal to farm Soul Fragment. Just keep your Stamina below 80 is fine. That way you'll stop the innate 100% xp bonus from working. To keep Stamina lower than 80, just start Grindfest and flee and repeat.

Also, to get various material like Aether, Voidseeker Shard, etc, you should stop doing Normal, at least do Hard.
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post Feb 3 2018, 15:29
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^^
@mundomuñeca : yes, that's right. I do 200-350rounds a day, so I always up for 1-2 level(s) sometimes, and I rarely update my equips. That's the problem I guess

@UnknowDestroyer : so I guess that way is gonna make me slow down a bit to get a better drops sometimes (I think..) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) maybe more legends or peers... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Thanks man...
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