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post Jul 17 2019, 03:21
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post Jul 17 2019, 05:33
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Is there any way (script, site, calculator) of emulating a character without having to use a persona?

That is, I'd like to check some stat progression and see how it applies, but I don't want to risk "using" a new persona.


And before I forget, does HVTools script allow for multiple enchantings at once? Let's say, in case I want to apply Featherweights to all my gears.

Same for upgrades.

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post Jul 17 2019, 05:53
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Between these two Potency scenarios which is best for a 1HD full slaughter set? Is Juggernaut really worth it over the Specific Mitigations?


Holy 5 Fire 5
Jug 5 Holy5
Jug 5 Dark 5
Jug 5 Elec 5
Jug 5 Wind 5
Jug 5 Cold 5

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post Jul 17 2019, 06:12
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QUOTE(Trash Panda @ Jul 17 2019, 05:53) *

Between these two Potency scenarios which is best for a 1HD full slaughter set? Is Juggernaut really worth it over the Specific Mitigations?
Well that is a good question, is juggernaut overall actually better as element mitigations when it comes to survivability? I mean i doesnt change your base health and has because of that of course no effect on your regen or health consumables, while the elemental mitigations actually reduce the damage you take for that specific element. But according to what i have seen so far i would say, it depends. What do you actually want to accomplish with that full slaughter set? I mean you sure as sure dont even need any IW on your equipment to become invulnerable in arena, with enough forging it just comes by itself. Of course IW can help you reach that point sooner. But would it actually worth all the potential amnesia shards you invested? I guess that is up to you decide. Also it depends on the elemental mitigations you allready have. Lets say you allready have two ruby armor pieces, in that case of course would be jugg5 any elemental mitigation besides fire would be better as any IW with fire 5. So i just assume now you are still vulnerable for whatever you want to clear with that set on a regular basic, in that case i would say when you go for elemental mitigations, go for those that are actually a threat to you. And of course at least a few jugg dont hurt. I mean after a certain PM, MM, block and parry you get mostly threaten by critical hits, and in such a case i can be very helpfull to have as much as possible HP to tank those. That is btw the reason why i in the end go for jugg5 on every piece, but on the other hand i also go for a lot of PFest in the future.
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post Jul 17 2019, 06:54
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 16 2019, 21:12) *

Well that is a good question, is juggernaut overall actually better as element mitigations when it comes to survivability? I mean i doesnt change your base health and has because of that of course no effect on your regen or health consumables, while the elemental mitigations actually reduce the damage you take for that specific element. But according to what i have seen so far i would say, it depends. What do you actually want to accomplish with that full slaughter set? I mean you sure as sure dont even need any IW on your equipment to become invulnerable in arena, with enough forging it just comes by itself. Of course IW can help you reach that point sooner. But would it actually worth all the potential amnesia shards you invested? I guess that is up to you decide. Also it depends on the elemental mitigations you allready have. Lets say you allready have two ruby armor pieces, in that case of course would be jugg5 any elemental mitigation besides fire would be better as any IW with fire 5. So i just assume now you are still vulnerable for whatever you want to clear with that set on a regular basic, in that case i would say when you go for elemental mitigations, go for those that are actually a threat to you. And of course at least a few jugg dont hurt. I mean after a certain PM, MM, block and parry you get mostly threaten by critical hits, and in such a case i can be very helpfull to have as much as possible HP to tank those. That is btw the reason why i in the end go for jugg5 on every piece, but on the other hand i also go for a lot of PFest in the future.


I mainly want to build a slaughter set for PFest. The question came to mind after I compared my vital stats for my Shadowdancer set which has Jug 5 for 4 pieces and my unforged/non-IW Agile Fleet set.


Shadowdancer: Vitals
29298
health points
2432
magic points
+47
magic regen per tick
1822
spirit points
+16
spirit regen per tick



Fleet: Vitals
26382
health points
2432
magic points
+47
magic regen per tick
1780
spirit points
+15
spirit regen per tick

That's less than 3k health points of difference...
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post Jul 17 2019, 07:02
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QUOTE(Trash Panda @ Jul 17 2019, 06:54) *

I mainly want to build a slaughter set for PFest.
Tbh, i wouldnt even suggest to use a slaugter set for PFest. But for that i would go for jugg5 on every piece to survive those nasty critical hits. Just asking, but did you any Fest before to see if you are strong enough at all? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
QUOTE(Trash Panda @ Jul 17 2019, 06:54) *

The question came to mind after I compared my vital stats for my Shadowdancer set which has Jug 5 for 4 pieces and my unforged/non-IW Agile Fleet set.

That's less than 3k health points of difference...

Well, HP also depend quite a bit on the End of the equipment pieces, if the shadowdancer set is weak on End compared to the Fleet set, of course the difference wouldnt be that big. Also 3k difference is quite something imo.
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post Jul 17 2019, 07:19
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 16 2019, 22:02) *

Tbh, i wouldnt even suggest to use a slaugter set for PFest. But for that i would go for jugg5 on every piece to survive those nasty critical hits. Just asking, but did you any Fest before to see if you are strong enough at all? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)


Yeah, I cleared PFest with a mace a few hours ago. '26,030 turns 2:57:49 (2.44 t/s) 7 horses'

Had to start curing a bit more after round 700

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post Jul 17 2019, 07:22
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Jul 17 2019, 05:33) *

Is there any way (script, site, calculator) of emulating a character without having to use a persona?

That is, I'd like to check some stat progression and see how it applies, but I don't want to risk "using" a new persona.
And before I forget, does HVTools script allow for multiple enchantings at once? Let's say, in case I want to apply Featherweights to all my gears.

Same for upgrades.

HV Util does have the multiple enchanting feature, and also some simulation features. But I have not used the simulator function myself.
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post Jul 17 2019, 07:27
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QUOTE(Trash Panda @ Jul 17 2019, 07:19) *

Yeah, I cleared PFest with a mace a few hours ago. '26,030 turns 2:57:49 (2.44 t/s) 7 horses'

Had to start curing a bit more after round 700

A bit? With a full slaughter set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Yeah, if i still needed a reason the hate the "balance" 10bo did to this game, it would have been this.

Also where the hell does this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) come from? Because i sure as sure didnt used it. I didnt used any smilies there and didnt planed to, so it makes absolutly no sense at all. So wtf? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jul 17 2019, 07:28
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 17 2019, 07:22) *

HV Util does have the multiple enchanting feature, and also some simulation features. But I have not used the simulator function myself.


Anything else? I use Greasemonkey and doesn't have compatibility, it seems (or so says the author).

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post Jul 17 2019, 07:40
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 16 2019, 22:27) *

A bit? With a full slaughter set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Yeah, if i still needed a reason the hate the "balance" 10bo did to this game, it would have been this.

Also where the hell does this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) come from? Because i sure as sure didnt used it. I didnt used any smilies there and didnt planed to, so it makes absolutly no sense at all. So wtf? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Nah, I haven't completed my Slaughter set yet. That run was with my Shadowdancer set. First time I tried the PFest run with my mace I thought I'd be dead by round 150. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I noticed that. Maybe your computer auto-input it because it liked the girl I have as my avatar. lol
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post Jul 17 2019, 07:53
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QUOTE(Trash Panda @ Jul 17 2019, 07:40) *

Nah, I haven't completed my Slaughter set yet. That run was with my Shadowdancer set. First time I tried the PFest run with my mace I thought I'd be dead by round 150. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Oh thank snowflake, i really couldnt stand the fact someone with a slaughter set would clear a PFest with ease, while i with my nearly full Peerl heavy forged defense build still get my ass kicked from time the time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
QUOTE(Trash Panda @ Jul 17 2019, 07:40) *

I noticed that. Maybe your computer auto-input it because it liked the girl I have as my avatar. lol
Not really my type, its the wrong blonde and her lipps remind me way too much of Angelina Jolie. Hm, maybe i missclicked while i did copy past the upper quote part? No idea, this will confuse me for the rest of the day. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Jul 17 2019, 08:08
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QUOTE(ubershank @ Jul 17 2019, 00:39) *

I was just taking a look at the hath perks, and thought I'd go for either Effluent Ether or Resplendent Regeneration, since can always do with more mana with Regen draining me like a tap. One thing I couldn't find though, is if Resplendent Regeneration only works on your normal regens, or also applies to regen and potion draughts, if it's the former I'd go for Effluent Ether, but if it also effects potions and spells then Resplendent Regeneration seems like the better pick. I checked the hath page on the wiki, but unless I missed it it doesn't specify, I'd very much appreciate some clarity on it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'm gonna be burning most my credits on it, so want to make the right decision. I'm not a mage, but a single handed fighter, but regen's been too useful to neglect. I have 3 levels of inate arcana which has helped with mana consumption a bit.

It's neither of that. RR raises your natural HP/mana regeneration, which if fairly low and unnoticeable.
That perk used to be useful when we had HP/MP/SP out of battle.
It is explained there:
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_Stats#Battle_Regen
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post Jul 17 2019, 09:41
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WTF? I have had Spark of Life.
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post Jul 17 2019, 10:05
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And why I have lost a lot of Spirit at this moment? (It was before I have died.)
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post Jul 17 2019, 10:10
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QUOTE(FazzyPop @ Jul 17 2019, 09:05) *

And why I have lost a lot of Spirit at this moment? (It was before I have died.)


Spark of life popped here - you were crit for an amount larger than your entire health pool. When the effect is used, it consumes 50% of your base spirit.

This is also why you died afterwards. Your spirit was too low for it to work again (and it tells you that in the combat log). You can tell whether spark of life is active by looking at your health bar - if it's dark green, the effect is active, but if it's light green, you either don't have it active or you have insufficient spirit.
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post Jul 17 2019, 10:19
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Is there anyway I can fully upgrade this without it getting hollowforged?Legendary Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction
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post Jul 17 2019, 10:35
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QUOTE(Matrim_Cauthon @ Jul 17 2019, 09:19) *

Is there anyway I can fully upgrade this without it getting hollowforged?Legendary Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction


No. Any non-ethereal weapon will, at level 10, receive Hollowforged & have its damage type changed to void. There is no significant downside to this.

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post Jul 17 2019, 11:13
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Couldn't you use Amnesia Shards to reset the weapon once it's fully or near fully upgraded and avoid Hollowforging it? I also think it'd be a bit silly to do so but it could be done, yes?
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post Jul 17 2019, 12:14
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 17 2019, 07:08) *

It's neither of that. RR raises your natural HP/mana regeneration, which if fairly low and unnoticeable.
That perk used to be useful when we had HP/MP/SP out of battle.
It is explained there:
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Cheers for that, that links helpful.

I remember when you didn't automatically recover to full after battle, pretty sure it was still like that when I temporarily quit the game ages ago, I used to do things like timing potion use so that I'd be close to fully restored after each battle.
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