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post Jul 13 2019, 17:49
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QUOTE(yrch @ Jul 13 2019, 17:33) *

Just wanted a new monster, HV wants 8 tokens, so that was the aim.

Thanks for the help though, it seems it is better to forget about it right now.
8 Tokens arent that many, so i would suggest do it. Even with just the first five arenas that should be possible in maybe two and a half week, if you are lucky even sonner.
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Btw, what is the best class right now for a low level mon? Still giants or something else?
When was there ever a "best class" for low level monster? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I mean there are so many low level monster out there, that it would allready quite rare for them to be even encountered by a player and because class has nothing really to do with that, i would say "best class" for low level monster is any class. Tbh i have my doubts there is even something like "best class" overall. I mean the last 50 or so monster i created i just did go the list down when the last monster was an artropod the next i created was an avion and after that a beast, celestial and so on. Why? Because it doesnt matter at all. Most of the time a monster actually does get a kill, it has more to do with luck as anything else.
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Thanks for the input guys.
You are welcome. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jul 13 2019, 20:54
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QUOTE(yrch @ Jul 13 2019, 15:33) *

Just wanted a new monster, HV wants 8 tokens, so that was the aim.

Thanks for the help though, it seems it is better to forget about it right now.

Btw, what is the best class right now for a low level mon? Still giants or something else?

Thanks for the input guys.

All monsters suck hard, so just choose whatever you want. There do are monsters that do win slightly more often than others, but overall your mats income will be balanced.
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post Jul 13 2019, 21:05
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 13 2019, 22:49) *

When was there ever a "best class" for low level monster? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Giant was once considered a better choice for low level monsters army. Basically since it's so bulky it stays on battle longer, coupled with it's higher base STR and DEX giving it a better edge on killing newbies as on low level battle it's all about basic attack.
I can't really remember when was that, but I could vaguely recall it was when potion wasn't unlimited, so it's at the very least pre 0.82.

Maybe it isn't that way anymore.
Maybe the number of new player decreasing that much, or maybe due to new player leveling up much faster than before, rendering those sealclubing army less effective compared to before.
Thought I imagine that the Giant and Celestial as specters which still haunt the mid-low level range. one hard to kill the other one have spirit skill that hit like a truck to isekai.

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post Jul 13 2019, 21:35
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Yeah, basically what Ms Fudo Masamune said. And yes, it is from pre 0.82 era that i have my info.

Also as an anecdote, I know I have a vv small sample size, but my lvl 171 celestial has 61/5 won/last hit while lvl 103 giant has 80/13. Both made at the same time though, maybe a week of difference.
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post Jul 14 2019, 00:01
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I've got this drop:

[199390070] Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter (Level 304, ADB 41%, Parry 66%)

Considering the element (Fire) and the low ADB, should I consider IWing + Soulfusing + minor upgrades (non bindings, or at least not expensive bindings) to this weapon in exchange of this one?

[192921209] Exquisite Demonic Rapier of Slaughter (Level Soulbound, IW 10, forged 25)
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post Jul 14 2019, 00:07
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Jul 13 2019, 19:01) *

I've got this drop:

[199390070] Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter (Level 304, ADB 41%, Parry 66%)

Considering the element (Fire) and the low ADB, should I consider IWing + Soulfusing + minor upgrades (non bindings, or at least not expensive bindings) to this weapon in exchange of this one?

[192921209] Exquisite Demonic Rapier of Slaughter (Level Soulbound, IW 10, forged 25)


Yes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 14 2019, 00:13
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Jul 14 2019, 00:01) *

I've got this drop:

[199390070] Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter (Level 304, ADB 41%, Parry 66%)

Considering the element (Fire) and the low ADB, should I consider IWing + Soulfusing + minor upgrades (non bindings, or at least not expensive bindings) to this weapon in exchange of this one?

[192921209] Exquisite Demonic Rapier of Slaughter (Level Soulbound, IW 10, forged 25)

So the quesions is do you switch a -121% damage Exq rapier for a 31% damage Leg rapier? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Well let us took a closer look at the other stats shall we? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Parry -72% Exq against 67% Leg
Accuracy -78% Exq against 85% Leg
Crit Chance -108% Exq against 38% Leg
Strength -113% Exq against 19% Leg
Dexterity n/a Exq against 77% Leg
Agility -86% Exq against Agility 63% Leg

Looks like the Legendary Rapier is superior in every single stat by quite a bit, as one should assume when i just read Exq against Leg. So the only question you should ask yourself is not, do you switch the Exq rapier for the Leg rapier, because this is quite obvious. The questions is, do you think you will get an actual better Leg rapier anytime soon?
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post Jul 14 2019, 00:26
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The questions is, do you think you will get an actual better Leg rapier anytime soon?


No idea.


So I guess I'll start preparing that thing to IW first then soulfuse (in case I need to pay someone to do it for me). Afterwards is breaking the other rapier, upgrading and soulfusing this one.
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post Jul 14 2019, 00:29
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Well, good luck with your IW. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jul 14 2019, 00:42
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I guess that with this one I'll take the potencies I get, I don't have the luxury to be very fussy and what I need now is extra damage.

I'll leave optimizations for better stuff.

Should I do it myself or better if I pay someone?

The issue with paying someone is the waiting queue they usually have, rather than the money itself.

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post Jul 14 2019, 00:48
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Well, doing it yourself would of course be cheaper, while let someone else doing it would be faster. So what is more important to you right now? Speed or price?
Oh, they have queues? Tbh i allways did my IW myself, so i have no idea about such things.

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post Jul 14 2019, 01:25
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ahroun, depending on what it is, I can IW it for you if you don't care about the results. I'll only charge the consumables I end up using to do it.
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post Jul 14 2019, 01:45
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This rapier:

[199390070] Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter (Level 304, ADB 41%, Parry 66%)

Rather than not caring, it's that I can't spend money on fixing a 3 Butcher, 3 Fatality, 3 Swift Strike Hollowforged weapon that I don't expect to be my permanent one (it would be a different matter if it was a Peerless or a good Legendary one) at my current level and gears.

Sure, but if you don't mind, I'd rather pay you for your work.

I mean, I can afford to pay the 150-200k an IW is and I guess that you also need the credits as your level isn't too different from mine.

I use this to calculate the price:

[reasoningtheory.net] https://reasoningtheory.net/itemworld

What's your credits per PXP price?

PS: I'm IWing it once to see how it goes and out of curiosity. But yeah, I'd prefer to outsource it.

PSS: forgot to write. The PXP at lvl 0 is 360 and the IW rounds is 84.

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post Jul 14 2019, 09:00
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jul 14 2019, 03:05) *

Giant was once considered a better choice for low level monsters army. Basically since it's so bulky it stays on battle longer, coupled with it's higher base STR and DEX giving it a better edge on killing newbies as on low level battle it's all about basic attack.
I can't really remember when was that, but I could vaguely recall it was when potion wasn't unlimited, so it's at the very least pre 0.82.

Maybe it isn't that way anymore.
Maybe the number of new player decreasing that much, or maybe due to new player leveling up much faster than before, rendering those sealclubing army less effective compared to before.
Thought I imagine that the Giant and Celestial as specters which still haunt the mid-low level range. one hard to kill the other one have spirit skill that hit like a truck to isekai.

Uj Ibn Anaq almost killed me every single time.
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post Jul 14 2019, 11:02
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Jul 13 2019, 16:45) *

This rapier:

[199390070] Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter (Level 304, ADB 41%, Parry 66%)

Rather than not caring, it's that I can't spend money on fixing a 3 Butcher, 3 Fatality, 3 Swift Strike Hollowforged weapon that I don't expect to be my permanent one (it would be a different matter if it was a Peerless or a good Legendary one) at my current level and gears.

Sure, but if you don't mind, I'd rather pay you for your work.

I mean, I can afford to pay the 150-200k an IW is and I guess that you also need the credits as your level isn't too different from mine.

I use this to calculate the price:

[reasoningtheory.net] https://reasoningtheory.net/itemworld

What's your credits per PXP price?

PS: I'm IWing it once to see how it goes and out of curiosity. But yeah, I'd prefer to outsource it.

PSS: forgot to write. The PXP at lvl 0 is 360 and the IW rounds is 84.
Hm... that one might be slightly out of my range. If it was 82 rounds I could probably do it on P-mode without needing to burn elixirs, but the rounds past 80 get VERY dicey for me. I guess I could probably still slog through it on IWBTH, it'd maybe take me like, the better part of a day to get it done.
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post Jul 14 2019, 11:52
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How to know that recasting a buff will be have additional time/turns?
A buff works for 55 turns, if I cast it before this buff is gone I sometime get not 55, but 88 turns.
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post Jul 14 2019, 11:56
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The channeling effect gives you 1.5 times the normal duration, whatever the spell.
That's why we often say "channeled Regen" to refer to that higher duration.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fighting_Styles#Any
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post Jul 14 2019, 11:57
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bbjobs, yeah, I've tried it 4 times at IWTBH and died 2. One was out of carelessness at the latest levels and the other in the beginning.

The 2 successful attempts were done being extra extra careful, with Imperil + rapiering each time, and healing myself very frequently.

Haven't burned Elixirs (I don't have slots for those), but had to use quite a few Mana Potions to keep my heals up.


I've got Butcher 2, Fatality 1 and Overpower 1 so far; not bad for now.


If you still want to do it (either at IWTBH or PFUDOR), tell me (here or via PM) and I'll send you the rapier with CoD 0. Don't forget the price.

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post Jul 14 2019, 13:00
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It blasts me how players say they don't have the slots for elixirs, while the said slots barely vost a few dozens of thousands of credits. I mean, having 10 slots should be done quite early.
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post Jul 14 2019, 13:28
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 14 2019, 14:00) *

It blasts me how players say they don't have the slots for elixirs, while the said slots barely vost a few dozens of thousands of credits. I mean, having 10 slots should be done quite early.

I personally slotted 9 pretty fast. Seemed like a priority. At lower levels pfudor is a potionfest.
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