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post Jul 11 2019, 10:10
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OK, here are the screenshots of when I finish the same challenge in different difficulties.

I do not want to start arguing, I just want to know your opinion with regard to the issue of credits.

Battle Arena End of days Challenge Hell:

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post Jul 11 2019, 10:50
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Do RoB bosses scale with my level?
The Unicorn crit me 8k HP, but I have only 7k HP (Full HP, normal difficulty).

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post Jul 11 2019, 11:19
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jul 11 2019, 15:10) *

OK, here are the screenshots of when I finish the same challenge in different difficulties.

I do not want to start arguing, I just want to know your opinion with regard to the issue of credits.

Battle Arena End of days Challenge Hell:

Battle Arena End of days Challenge Nightmare:


Looks normal due to fluctuation. Even if the number on hell is lower, that still doesn't show that hell give lower credit reward than nightmare.
Clearly wasn't that 7k credits @ nightmare and 2k @ hell you mentioned before.
It's as uncle stu reply before
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 3 2019, 04:30) *

... it is possible that because of the usual fluctuation of credits drops and only one difficulty difference it did look like that...


Another example, these record shows that hell lower credits could be less than nightmare highest credits.

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each run = 50 round IW.
Upper row are nightmare, lower row are hell.
but in the end, in average, higher difficulty will yield higher credits.

if you think such wide fluctuation is impossible.
Here's a 16k credits revenue on EoD @ PFUDOR
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here's 11k credits revenue on EoD @ PFUDOR
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converting the credits (assuming PF = 3x credits multiplier)
the 11k one should become ~6.5k if played @ hell. (~11.2k * (1.75/3))
while the 16k one should become ~8k @ nightmare. (~16k * (1.5/3))

QUOTE(FazzyPop @ Jul 11 2019, 15:50) *

Do RoB bosses scale with my level?
The Unicorn crit me 8k HP, but I have only 7k HP (Full HP, normal difficulty).


all monsters scale with your level.
use spirit shield and spark of life to mitigate those one shot skill.
normal monsters would have those too later.

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post Jul 11 2019, 11:48
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You mean that regular monsters ultimately are the most dangerous ones. Being critted at more than 20k is very common at PFUDOR difficulty. That is, I'm not talking about the batshit insane damage we got to deal with during PFFEST.
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post Jul 11 2019, 19:46
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I was away 4 years from HV, and now trying to restart.
I've noticed several changes, especially on the my items..
How much the stats on the items changed during the years? The current staff that I use was approx. 10m when I was playing, and now the stats looks like Mag. tier or even less.

ex) [alt.hentaiverse.org] alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/42497626/774cde9f95

Do you think this is usable / sellable? I'm trying to buy items for mage again..

Thanks in advance.
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post Jul 11 2019, 19:54
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QUOTE(GimAng @ Jul 11 2019, 19:46) *

I was away 4 years from HV, and now trying to restart.
Welcome back. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
QUOTE(GimAng @ Jul 11 2019, 19:46) *

I've noticed several changes, especially on the my items..
Four years? Enough for your whole equipment to be pre 0.82 aka completly outdated. You need a whole new set no matter what.
QUOTE(GimAng @ Jul 11 2019, 19:46) *

How much the stats on the items changed during the years? The current staff that I use was approx. 10m when I was playing, and now the stats looks like Mag. tier or even less.
Ehm, if you want to know more details, i suggest read the 0.82 release note. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=178980
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ex) [alt.hentaiverse.org] alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/42497626/774cde9f95
Do you think this is usable / sellable? I'm trying to buy items for mage again..
10M huh? Well today this is worth just 1 HGW and some scraps sorry to say that. But i cant see actually someone pay credits for pre 0.82 equipment.
QUOTE(GimAng @ Jul 11 2019, 19:46) *

Thanks in advance.
You are welcome, sorry i didnt had any better news about your staff. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jul 11 2019, 21:11
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QUOTE(GimAng @ Jul 11 2019, 19:46) *

I was away 4 years from HV, and now trying to restart.
I've noticed several changes, especially on the my items..
How much the stats on the items changed during the years? The current staff that I use was approx. 10m when I was playing, and now the stats looks like Mag. tier or even less.

ex) [alt.hentaiverse.org] alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/42497626/774cde9f95

Do you think this is usable / sellable? I'm trying to buy items for mage again..

Thanks in advance.

welcome back!

If you have really old gear, those can have some value. there are collectors of early obsoletes. You could actually try to sell the staff, the forge materials have some value of course, and for a starting mage it could be worth 50k or so. Not 10m anymore though...

So you want to restart paying mage? Still a very good choice in current meta. Fastest, but expensive.

You probably noticed that old scripts aren't working anymore, and that there are replacements on the forum?
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post Jul 11 2019, 21:20
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QUOTE(GimAng @ Jul 12 2019, 00:46) *

I was away 4 years from HV, and now trying to restart.
I've noticed several changes, especially on the my items..
How much the stats on the items changed during the years? The current staff that I use was approx. 10m when I was playing, and now the stats looks like Mag. tier or even less.

ex) [alt.hentaiverse.org] alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/42497626/774cde9f95

Do you think this is usable / sellable? I'm trying to buy items for mage again..

Thanks in advance.


I don't think your old equip are instant useless, they could work for a temporary equip before switching.
But new equip generated are generally better, they are generally cheap too except select few.
If you just wants to make some working mage gears, low stats or non-radiant/charged phase are pretty cheap, but I think you'll need to do some light forging before it's comfortably playable on high difficulty, also I doubt you'll be able to use it for anything except arena and RE without more investment..
All that aside, I guess the biggest hurdle is the cost to soulfusing a full set equip (assuming you need to). It would cost so much that it'll take some weeks of dedicated RE to complete.

Also, I'm seeing you bid 2 lvl 500 equips on super's auction.
you need to reach at least lvl 400 and soulfuse them before able to use them, it'll cost like 1500(?) soul fragments each to soulfuse a Legendary with 100 lvl above your level.

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post Jul 11 2019, 21:27
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 11 2019, 21:11) *

for a starting mage it could be worth 50k or so
For a staff that is literally worse as every other Legendary Shocking Willow Staff of Destruction that can drop today? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Imo not even the level would actually be a good reason to buy it.
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post Jul 12 2019, 01:33
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 11 2019, 22:27) *

For a staff that is literally worse as every other Legendary Shocking Willow Staff of Destruction that can drop today? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Imo not even the level would actually be a good reason to buy it.


With that edb and counter-resist it's not great even as Magnificent, but it's ok to start with so it might even sell since low level and matching stuff is scarce.

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post Jul 12 2019, 01:52
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Jul 12 2019, 01:33) *

With that edb and counter-resist it's not great even as Magnificent, but it's ok to start with so it might even sell since low level and mathing stuff is scarce.
Okay, let us go this trought, who would possibly buy this staff? A inexperienced player of course, maybe even someone who doesnt even notice how bad this staff actually is and who thinks "What a great bargain i made", but he didnt. So please, hands up, who would actually suggest someone to buy this staff with a clear conscience? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jul 12 2019, 04:52
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Hey, guys, I have a question. I have reached 310 levels now. It was incredibly hard to get here. He's wearing heavy armor and one-hand rape now. I want to be a wizard now. But my English is weak. I do not even know how to fight the skill settings and what to do. All I know is that the staff and cloth armor Fighting is weakened by casting Imperial and then attacked with fire, wind, and magic. Please take a lot of advice. I'm using Google Translate. I'd be grateful if you could let me know using the standard language.
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post Jul 12 2019, 06:08
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 12 2019, 02:54) *

Welcome back. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Four years? Enough for your whole equipment to be pre 0.82 aka completly outdated. You need a whole new set no matter what.
Ehm, if you want to know more details, i suggest read the 0.82 release note. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=178980
10M huh? Well today this is worth just 1 HGW and some scraps sorry to say that. But i cant see actually someone pay credits for pre 0.82 equipment.
You are welcome, sorry i didnt had any better news about your staff. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Thanks for the advice. I've just checked the release note and it seems like they adjusted the stats really to deprecate the pre 0.82 items (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 12 2019, 04:11) *

welcome back!

If you have really old gear, those can have some value. there are collectors of early obsoletes. You could actually try to sell the staff, the forge materials have some value of course, and for a starting mage it could be worth 50k or so. Not 10m anymore though...

So you want to restart paying mage? Still a very good choice in current meta. Fastest, but expensive.

You probably noticed that old scripts aren't working anymore, and that there are replacements on the forum?


Thanks for value estimation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Yeah, I think I'll just try to use before I get some new gears, then try to sell to ones that want obsolete gears..
I've also renewed the scripts that I used (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jul 12 2019, 04:20) *

I don't think your old equip are instant useless, they could work for a temporary equip before switching.
But new equip generated are generally better, they are generally cheap too except select few.
If you just wants to make some working mage gears, low stats or non-radiant/charged phase are pretty cheap, but I think you'll need to do some light forging before it's comfortably playable on high difficulty, also I doubt you'll be able to use it for anything except arena and RE without more investment..
All that aside, I guess the biggest hurdle is the cost to soulfusing a full set equip (assuming you need to). It would cost so much that it'll take some weeks of dedicated RE to complete.

Also, I'm seeing you bid 2 lvl 500 equips on super's auction.
you need to reach at least lvl 400 and soulfuse them before able to use them, it'll cost like 1500(?) soul fragments each to soulfuse a Legendary with 100 lvl above your level.


Thanks for the advice. I also think I'll temporarily use the staff..
I realized that I've already opened several Hath perks and looks like soul fragments obtained from Dawn were quite sufficient to soulfuse some gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 12 2019, 08:52) *

Okay, let us go this trought, who would possibly buy this staff? A inexperienced player of course, maybe even someone who doesnt even notice how bad this staff actually is and who thinks "What a great bargain i made", but he didnt. So please, hands up, who would actually suggest someone to buy this staff with a clear conscience? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Maybe some fans of obsolete gears? I expect those are not useable gears, but just for rare collection (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jul 12 2019, 07:22
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QUOTE(ktkkk199 @ Jul 12 2019, 04:52) *

Hey, guys, I have a question. I have reached 310 levels now. It was incredibly hard to get here. He's wearing heavy armor and one-hand rape now. I want to be a wizard now. But my English is weak. I do not even know how to fight the skill settings and what to do. All I know is that the staff and cloth armor Fighting is weakened by casting Imperial and then attacked with fire, wind, and magic. Please take a lot of advice. I'm using Google Translate. I'd be grateful if you could let me know using the standard language.


Mage is difficult. Mage does not have good defense. Much more 'incredible hard' to get there than one-hand rapier.

- You need credits. Millions. 5-10 million minimum.
- Choose 1 element. My advice is Cold, Wind or Electric.
- Get a staff: Legendary. If you must, you can try magnificent. But that will not be good.
- Get a matching staff: Legendary Arctic Redwood staff of Destruction/Niflheim, Shocking Willow staff of destruction, Tempestuous Willow staff of destruction.
- Then get matching gear. 1 cotton of the elementalist, 4 phase of matching element.

- Read the wiki advice with google translatate: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_Advanced
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post Jul 12 2019, 10:06
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jul 10 2019, 23:37) *

any cloth/phase with suffix other than damage and elemental/divine/forbidden proficiency could be sold/salvaged.
to make it clear "Protection, Warding, Earth-walker, and Curse-weaver" are instant salvage/bazaar.

prefix doesn't matter if the suffix is crap.
you could also safely throw away anything below magnificent, playing mage with low quality tier gears is a symptom of masochism. mid 300-ish non charged/radiant magnificient would also lose it's demand so those could also salvaged. near 400 I highly doubt any magnificent cloth/phase will sell.

Thanks. I managed to get a few credits clearing those junk.

Should I salvage this?
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post Jul 12 2019, 10:44
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QUOTE(Noeleo @ Jul 12 2019, 10:06) *

Thanks. I managed to get a few credits clearing those junk.

Should I salvage this?
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yes
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post Jul 12 2019, 13:57
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 12 2019, 02:52) *

Okay, let us go this trought, who would possibly buy this staff? A inexperienced player of course, maybe even someone who doesnt even notice how bad this staff actually is and who thinks "What a great bargain i made", but he didnt. So please, hands up, who would actually suggest someone to buy this staff with a clear conscience? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


I will, because it's good enough for low budget low lvl mage who needs to fill the slot before buying a decent one for N millions after N months. Playing mage under lvl 400 is not optimal, but not a bad idea because you'll start to build up potencies earlier, and since you have limited access to best stuff you'll most likely have to use mag range equips anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Jul 12 2019, 17:25
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hi Experts!

may i ask is there some way to identify the specified kind of monster in the battle list ?

i really afraid the Celestial monster and i want them as my priority target but i only remember little monster name (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jul 12 2019, 17:31
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Well, you could use monsterbation, normaly it uses data from the database to show you what kind of monster they are, the owner, the PL and so on.
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post Jul 12 2019, 18:08
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QUOTE(mangafans1 @ Jul 12 2019, 17:25) *

hi Experts!

may i ask is there some way to identify the specified kind of monster in the battle list ?

i really afraid the Celestial monster and i want them as my priority target but i only remember little monster name (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


In monsterbation settings, at "Monster keywords", put in:

/(Celestial)/


And set Monsterinfo to: false

That last one lets you enjoy the monster highlight function without all the details in the monster info boxes.
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