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post Jun 15 2019, 11:29
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Quick question, remember when I get here to ask you the first time how the item shop was handled?

Well, a month ago someone left there in the item shop Various Bindings, all those that work especially to improve weapons that have some kind of special feature, you know; Holy, wind, fire and all that. And I leave it for large amounts.

Who do you think has done it?
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post Jun 15 2019, 11:37
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 15 2019, 11:29) *

Who do you think has done it?
Someone without a shop and large piles of them of course. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jun 15 2019, 12:03
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 15 2019, 09:29) *

Quick question, remember when I get here to ask you the first time how the item shop was handled?

Well, a month ago someone left there in the item shop Various Bindings, all those that work especially to improve weapons that have some kind of special feature, you know; Holy, wind, fire and all that. And I leave it for large amounts.

Who do you think has done it?

It was a major contributor to the site, more specifically to the galleries, who left the site for various reasons. He simply bazaared absolutely every of his leftover belongings after giving away the more interesting items in his WTS thread. That action can be both praised and criticized, from different points of views.

You don't really need to know more than that. The only thing that is worth mentioning is that pretty much every material you can find there, can be found for cheaper in the WTS section of the forums. For instance, I bought my feathers for something like 15-20C apiece, instead of the bazaar's whooping 1000C, simply because for the seller it's still better than selling them 10C apiece to the bazaar.
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post Jun 15 2019, 18:20
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Replenishment restores 15 points of magic.
Cooldown expired for Frenzied Blows
Void Strike hits Urd for 2892 void damage.
Holy Strike hits Urd for 1050 holy damage.
Your offhand hits Urd for 8112 void damage.
Void Strike hits Urd for 6913 void damage.
Dark Strike hits Urd for 4162 dark damage.
You hit Urd for 12697 void damage.

Void Strike hits Urd for 8324 void damage.
Dark Strike hits Urd for 4127 dark damage.
You crit Urd for 29040 void damage.


Replenishment restores 15 points of magic.
Void Strike hits Urd for 3668 void damage.
Holy Strike hits Urd for 1014 holy damage.
Urd gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
Your offhand crits Urd for 11869 void damage.
Void Strike hits Urd for 5996 void damage.
Dark Strike hits Urd for 3316 dark damage.
You crit Urd for 25505 void damage.

I have 100% Offhand Strike on Hit so why no offhand damage on the bolded part?. A bug maybe?.
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post Jun 15 2019, 18:59
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Accuracy of your offhand weapon. I assume it's still possible with 49.99%.
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post Jun 16 2019, 04:01
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Hey, I have 47 percusor artifact (very soon 50) What do you recommend I do with them?
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post Jun 16 2019, 04:20
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 16 2019, 04:01) *

Hey, I have 47 percusor artifact (very soon 50) What do you recommend I do with them?
Imo there are only two possibilities. You shrine them or you sell them. Personally i did allways shrine and just a bit of math is able to show you overall for your income it is more or less the same.
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post Jun 16 2019, 04:25
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 15 2019, 19:01) *

Hey, I have 47 percusor artifact (very soon 50) What do you recommend I do with them?


I'll try to take a stab at this instead of usually asking for advice here but my unpopular opinion is to shrine them all at once, if you have hardly have any primary attribute bonuses from artificats keep in mind that you will likely get those from shrining artifacts, if you're lucky you might be able to break even on the chances of getting energy drinks from shrining. Otherwise your other results from shrining will either be 1000x in a random crystal (cheaper buying in the WTS user shops) or Last Elixirs (meh, good last resort item but not very valuable). Otherwise you can sell the artifacts for about 20k credits.
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post Jun 16 2019, 04:34
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 16 2019, 05:20) *

Imo there are only two possibilities. You shrine them or you sell them. Personally i did allways shrine and just a bit of math is able to show you overall for your income it is more or less the same.


Well, if that's the case, I'm going to collect 60 then, and I'm going to use 10 in the shrine, to see what I get.

Thank's for the recommendations (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jun 16 2019, 04:53
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It's worth noting that it's a lot easier to sell PAs than it is EDs, they are not actually selling at 100k anymore (unless you are prepared to wait a very long time on the offchance that someone will buy at that price from you specifically rather than any of the many competitors). If credits are your concern, sell them.

The PABs are reasonably valuable though and when you have a significant disparity between your current PAB bonuses and your cap, they will appear more readily. (For me right now, I have 46 in all stats except strength - and I've shrined ~750 since I hit 460). It can be worth shrining a bunch just to get the easy ones.
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post Jun 16 2019, 09:13
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 16 2019, 04:01) *

Hey, I have 47 percusor artifact (very soon 50) What do you recommend I do with them?


I would suggest you Shrine them in search for Energy Drinks.

I Shrined every Precursor Artifact I got and right I'm sitting with over 300 Energy Drinks, all stats at +35 and getting Crystals and Last Elixirs.

I understand that selling them at 20k is quick easy cash, but I find that amount not worthy if you can get an ED worth 100k.

Some people around the WTS change items for ED, and that is my second form of currency at the moment.
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post Jun 16 2019, 09:51
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What lestion forgot mention is that when prices for ED actually would decrease, so would the price you could demand for PA, so in the end you still would get more or less the same. Also i still wait for an explanaition why ED prices should falll, some people keep telling prices does and should do, and some people in WTS and WTB acting according to that, but imo this looks more like a self-fulfilling prophecy as something that happens with a real reason, because imo there is no reason for ED prices for fall in the long-term. Nothing actually did change between now and one year ago, except that people telling without any explanaition that ED prices do fall.
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post Jun 16 2019, 10:17
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 16 2019, 08:51) *

What lestion forgot mention is that when prices for ED actually would decrease, so would the price you could demand for PA, so in the end you still would get more or less the same. Also i still wait for an explanaition why ED prices should falll, some people keep telling prices does and should do, and some people in WTS and WTB acting according to that, but imo this looks more like a self-fulfilling prophecy as something that happens with a real reason, because imo there is no reason for ED prices for fall in the long-term. Nothing actually did change between now and one year ago, except that people telling without any explanaition that ED prices do fall.


Why should they fall?... because they're barely getting bought at the current prices. I mean, that's totally okay if everyone is happy with sitting on their stash, but if it's based on the idea that one day the buyers will suddenly appear out of nowhere... I suspect there is very little foundation for that belief. This is basic supply and demand... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Last time this came up, when you listed the WTS prices as the going rate for EDs, I asked you if you could find many shop orders for them at those prices. How far back would you have to dig? I looked at the cheapest you listed (hc br's shop) and went back several months without finding ANY orders for EDs. And I would be willing to guess (without checking) that other shops have similar cases...

Auction prices also reflect this: people are willing to buy stacks of EDs at around 80k per unit, but not considerably more.

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post Jun 16 2019, 10:18
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I ask you once again Uncle Stu, there is a topic where you can discuss that kind of things, like for example what you just pointed out, that there is no reason for energy drinks to go down in price at the moment.

Por que de verdad me gustaría hablar acerca de ese tipo de tópicos

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post Jun 16 2019, 10:24
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 16 2019, 10:18) *

I ask you once again Uncle Stu, there is a topic where you can discuss that kind of things, like for example what you just pointed out, that there is no reason for energy drinks to go down in price at the moment.

Por que de verdad me gustaría hablar acerca de ese tipo de tópicos


Feel free to use the Ponyverse chat thread for that.

And, this forum is solo inglés
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post Jun 16 2019, 11:04
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QUOTE(lestion @ Jun 16 2019, 10:17) *

Why should they fall?
PA? Well, their price is based of what you get out of them, when what comes out of them is lower as the price they pay, buyer will no longer buy for that price, they are not stupid.
QUOTE(lestion @ Jun 16 2019, 10:17) *

... because they're barely getting bought at the current prices.
ED market was never actually big and may i remember you all for the 100th time, the easter even was recently. Easter even aka everyone gets a lot of ED. And sometimes you have to wait. I waited not long ago quite a while for a buyer for a few phazon. So what? Should i decrease prices just when dont sell any of a specific thing? No, you dont, you wait.
QUOTE(lestion @ Jun 16 2019, 10:17) *

I mean, that's totally okay if everyone is happy with sitting on their stash, but if it's based on the idea that one day the buyers will suddenly appear out of nowhere... I suspect there is very little foundation for that belief. This is basic supply and demand... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I opened my shop end of february and at first the only two things i did had in stock were quite a few ED, 50 iirc, for 100k and some HGC for 13k. Only minutes later i did sold all of them. And please tell me, what did actually changed between then and now that would actually explain, why i should now sell my ED for much cheaper? Because that argument is the whole discussion still completly lacking. Because you and some other say so? Sorry, but that is not enough.

QUOTE(lestion @ Jun 16 2019, 10:17) *

Auction prices also reflect this: people are willing to buy stacks of EDs at around 80k per unit, but not considerably more.
Self-fulfilling prophecy, ask your search engine if you are not familiar with the therm. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Also the last order for ED iirc in my shop was this one.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5411888

And unless you actually have a real argument and/or reason why ED prices should drop, i end this discussion from my side. Because i am sick to repeat the same words over and over again, without any real arguments of the other side.
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post Jun 16 2019, 11:18
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 16 2019, 11:24) *

Feel free to use the Ponyverse chat thread for that.

And, this forum is solo inglés


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Sorry, I was answering in 2 forums at the same time, it is not the first time that happens to me, besides that sometimes my internet dies before the message I write is edited correctly.
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post Jun 17 2019, 23:50
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A little help here, it's worth spending 60 thousand credits to improve this armor:

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post Jun 18 2019, 00:10
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No. Definitely no. Not even if it was Legendary.
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post Jun 18 2019, 00:17
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Jun 17 2019, 23:50) *

A little help here, it's worth spending 60 thousand credits to improve this armor:
It is plain leather, so no it is not. Go get a shade, (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Also for the next time, hover your cursor above the item and press c and post the link you get, it will tell us much more information, even when in this case it was not really needed because it was quite obvious.

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