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post Jun 3 2019, 15:16
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Wow, I only get like 600 a month.



I have an old computer with a couple of HDDs that has been running 24/7 for over a year. 6k static ranges, almost 2TB of data on disk, 250hits/min. I jusat wish I could get a higher upstream from my service provider.
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post Jun 4 2019, 03:31
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It's related to something I've asked before, but what do people use Shielding HA for?

I mean, what kind of build? Because I see a lot of people with Shielding plates, and they are quite rare to see in bazaar, so it means people are using/trading them (or salvaging?).

Also, I'm trying on Nintendo and I realize that I have to be more careful about what I do.

Should I swap part, or all, of my equipment to Shielding type for more survival?

Also, I have this stat build at level 246:

S 280 DEX 279 AGI 225 END 279 INT 180 WIS 279

Am I doing this right?

Should I go for more tankability or I keep like this?

And how should I evolve depending on build?

The idea would be evolving towards a build for future levels, rather than using another persona.

My idea would be a balance between clearing speed and reliability. I don't like surprises that much (like being hit hard and getting in red HP levels).
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post Jun 4 2019, 03:42
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Jun 4 2019, 03:31) *

It's related to something I've asked before, but what do people use Shielding HA for?
Tbh i dont know anyone who use shielding plate in their set. But it could be used -as i allready said before not long ago- to increase your block chance in the cheap way and by that to play sooner on a higher difficulty, but when you are strong enough to do it without the shielding plate, i cant see any usage for it.
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I mean, what kind of build? Because I see a lot of people with Shielding plates, and they are quite rare to see in bazaar, so it means people are using/trading them (or salvaging?).
No, you dont salvage heavy armor, except average and below for cheap metal scrap. The price of HGM and MGM is too low for that. So usually they are nothing but bazaar fooder.

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Should I swap part, or all, of my equipment to Shielding type for more survival?
Well, you could try one or maybe two pieces, but i would never suggest to use a full set of shielding plate. Just increase your block and parry and ignore your mitigations wont keep your alive forever. Somewhen attacks will still hit you and when you dont have the mitigations and/or HP to tank those attacks, you will get killed. It is a easy as that.

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S 280 DEX 279 AGI 225 END 279 INT 180 WIS 279

Am I doing this right?
I would say you have for your level too much Int and Wis.

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The idea would be evolving towards a build for future levels, rather than using another persona.

My idea would be a balance between clearing speed and reliability. I don't like surprises that much (like being hit hard and getting in red HP levels).
I am not sure what you mean by that. Your attributes alone dont mean that much and at your level i would not suggest use a slaughter build but a defensive one until your are strong enough to survive even pfudor.
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post Jun 4 2019, 04:01
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Well, it's not that Plate can have anything better. It's either Mithril or Shielding.

As for mitigations, what do I prefer, Protection, Warding or specialized ones? Maybe a mix of Protection and Warding?

The idea isn't ignoring mitigations, but adding Shielding Plate instead of Savage Power. Either fully or partially, as you suggest.


As for my last question I was asking for a possible progression with my stats (like, Level * 1.20 for STR). Should I improve END? Keep all main melee stats the same?

I put some into WIS to make sure I had the MPs needed for proper healing, plus magical defense.
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post Jun 4 2019, 04:41
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Jun 4 2019, 04:01) *

Well, it's not that Plate can have anything better. It's either Mithril or Shielding.
So? Plate is only for using until you get power armor.
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As for mitigations, what do I prefer, Protection, Warding or specialized ones? Maybe a mix of Protection and Warding?
Personally i would suggest a mix between three protection and two warding, but i was more talking about upgrading your equipment and not so much the equipment itself.
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The idea isn't ignoring mitigations, but adding Shielding Plate instead of Savage Power. Either fully or partially, as you suggest.
I never suggested a full shielding set, because it would be so much slower as a full shielding set, that even if it would allow you to play on PFUDOR right now -what i highly doubt- that you would be so much slower, that the actually increase of income would be near zero.
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As for my last question I was asking for a possible progression with my stats (like, Level * 1.20 for STR). Should I improve END? Keep all main melee stats the same?
Personally i made it this way Dex 20 points above Str, Str equal to End, Agi so that the attack speed bonus would be above zero with the next invested point and Wis around 75 to 100 points below that until i did reach a resistance hance of 20%. Int really just got left over xp that didnt matter at all, just for some cheap spirit point.
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I put some into WIS to make sure I had the MPs needed for proper healing, plus magical defense.
Yeah, see? What do you think how often i do have to heal when i do all arenas in a day? It is the same number for years now. Zero. So i guess you dont even have a full set of equipment soulfused with no upgrades at all. Right? Well, this is fine for Hell, but everything above that needs a bit more. And no, using shielding plate wont fix that in the long therm.
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post Jun 4 2019, 04:41
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Jun 3 2019, 22:31) *

It's related to something I've asked before, but what do people use Shielding HA for?


Summarizing all your questions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) , I'll tell you my case.

For survival issues at high levels I used a mixture of shielding and non-shielding, and with different suffixes (mainly Protection and Warding). I played like this until almost level 350 (but could have replaced it with Power before). In fact, currently, if you only use Power around level 300 you can survive without too much trouble (formerly it was a bit different and the monsters beat hard at higher levels; today the level of the monsters varies according to the level of the player).

Currently I keep a Shielding set only for collection, as well as some other players. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

If you are really having survival issues, you can mix Power and Plate smoothly to the point where you feel comfortable to play. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jun 4 2019, 05:52
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So, stick to my set of Power Armour, forget about Shielding.

And if I'm having issues, reduce difficulty to Hell.

As for stats, I guess I'll stop increasing INT and put more into DEX and END.

Thanks for the advice.
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post Jun 4 2019, 14:13
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QUOTE(jeddite-eht @ Jun 3 2019, 08:10) *

Is this any good?

[195277561] Legendary Ethereal Shortsword of Slaughter (Level 378, ADB 6%)

Pros: Legendary, ethereal, of Slaughter
Cons: not a rapier, only 6% ADB, level 378


This is from price check, why not being a rapier is a problem? shortsword has more agi, str and damage and with exception of penetrated armor the rest is similar.
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post Jun 4 2019, 14:18
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That's a problem only for those who can't use Imperil, who seem to be the majority.
The day they switch to mage must be particularly painful.

But frankly, that one's major issue is more its awful ADB and being Ethereal.
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post Jun 4 2019, 15:52
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jun 4 2019, 14:18) *

That's a problem only for those who can't use Imperil, who seem to be the majority.
The day they switch to mage must be particularly painful.

But frankly, that one's major issue is more its awful ADB and being Ethereal.


being Ethereal it's an issue only for some dudes, others even prefer it.

The 6% ADB combined with l.37x thou' is a BIG no-no (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jun 4 2019, 18:16
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How do you check this ADB thing?

Also I've just recently returned from very long time not playing this. Not planning to go too serious on this game too (mostly just here for the H), but since equipments are now levelbound, I'm thinking of leveling myself to at least Lv.300

Switched from 2H to Niten recently because I found an ethereal katana on bazaar, only have to look for ethereal wakizashi then it's complete weightless

here's my current stats

Attached Image

And here are my equips (some of these I got them thanks to Evil's auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif))

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/193740827/b194d713db
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/193403476/48365aa46e

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/26418877/9150867bc5
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/40595610/c312c14029
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/105419171/940d8c1a6f
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/61242373/cef9f34b73
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/61781113/19b3be936d

How's my overall build? Anything I should fix & take notes?
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post Jun 4 2019, 18:38
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QUOTE(indiexanna @ Jun 4 2019, 18:16) *

How do you check this ADB thing?
You mean the percentage? With the Live Percentile Ranges script.
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Also I've just recently returned from very long time not playing this.
Welcome back, if you were really a very log time gone, you should check your inventory for obsolute items and equipment, for some people they are worth a lot, so you should not just bazaar them.

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Anything I should fix & take notes?
Yeah, it looks like except of your gauntles your whole armor set is pre 0.82. And by that completly outdate aka worse stats as equipment post 0.82. So when you soulfuse your whole set, what you should do in the long therm, you should replace those before you do that.
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post Jun 4 2019, 18:47
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 4 2019, 23:38) *
Yeah, it looks like except of your gauntles your whole armor set is pre 0.82.


Do you detect that by script too or it's just experience?
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post Jun 4 2019, 18:48
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jun 4 2019, 13:52) *

being Ethereal it's an issue only for some dudes, others even prefer it.

The 6% ADB combined with l.37x thou' is a BIG no-no (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Getting a fire strike on an ethereal is quite a turn off, just saying. Elec and Wind are also not very wanted.
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post Jun 4 2019, 19:08
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QUOTE(indiexanna @ Jun 4 2019, 18:47) *

Do you detect that by script too or it's just experience?

Attached Image Negative stats are usually a very good indication for that. Live Percentile Ranges is your friend. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) But yeah, after you did say "very long time" i did allready expect it.

And just my opinion to elemental strikes, elec and wind are okay, but yeah, fire
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of them all. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jun 4 2019, 20:20
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QUOTE(indiexanna @ Jun 4 2019, 23:47) *

Do you detect that by script too or it's just experience?


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the equip links are hentaiverse.org/equip/xxxx/yyyy
the xxxx is equip ID, any equip with ID below 68.000.000 are pre 0.82.
well, it's 68.000.000 or 86.000.000 or 80.000.000 or whatever, you know the idea. Most equips currently in circulation are having 9 digits ID instead of 8 anyway, so if you see any with 8 digits id and on any ID number below 65mil, you could be sure that those are obsoletes pre 0.82.

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post Jun 4 2019, 20:23
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jun 4 2019, 20:20) *

the xxxx is equip ID, any equip with ID below 68.000.000 are pre 0.82.
well, it's 68.000.000 or 86.000.000 or 80.000.000 or whatever

At least i am not the only one who just cant remember. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 4 2019, 21:14
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 4 2019, 19:08) *

And just my opinion to elemental strikes, elec and wind are okay, but yeah, fire
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of them all. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I like Wurst, I just had one for dinner today (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jun 5 2019, 02:56
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@All above

Wow, thanks for the infos, I'm still confused about how to use the script and can't get it to work.

Also, speaking of obsolete items, I have flower vase and bubble gum and can't remember what they're for, do they worth anything?
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post Jun 5 2019, 03:30
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Yeah, they are. Do not sell them unless sure of the price.

Around 12-14k per bubble on WTB, iirc.

My question: when it's a good moment to get some HatH? Like, I want to get IA level 1 and have 470k on me . Is it a good investment or better if I wait?
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