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So, I've been accumulating a lot of GP, and I've been wondering about the lottery system. I've been buying only a single ticket for the weapons and armor I'm interested in, but I haven't won anything yet.

Is there any reason to purchase more than one ticket?

Well, if you actually want to win something would be the best reason i can think of. Because with only one ticket, you chance of winning something is very slim.

Also, does the winner of any of the prizes get the things automatically placed in their inventory or do they need to do something to claim them?

When you win, you have it, how that works? Easy, a wizard does it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Rapiers are no good against Schoolgirls, as Penetrated Armor and Imperil are additive, but can't reduce a monster's PMit below 0%. While Bleeding Wound is completely independant and can have 5 stacks at once against SGs, which is ideal.
The cherry on the cake now: SGs have maximum 47%Pmit at your level (66%PMit at level 500), so they should be left to only 7%PMit with Imperil alone. Therefore, a single stack of Penetrated Armor would therefore have almost no effect at all on them after applying Imperil.
Some players do use the Vital Strike skill with their rapier to apply some powerful BW on SGs, but for my part I wouldn't recommend that, as it'd quickly deplete your OC bar and the stacks wear off quickly anyway. And it needs one to be proficient at setting up Monsterbation to keep a smooth gameplay, which is most likely not your case.

As Noni stated, the solution to your issue is quite simple.
You need your weapon to be Hollowforged (IW10) first, with ADB Forge 5 second, and with a total of 3 strikes third (void strike from hollowforged+innate elemental strike+elemental strike from an infusion). That's the very best you can have right now.
If you can, favor a Demonic/Hallowed weapon: Mikuru, Yuki and Ryouko all have -1% elemental mitigation against these two elements. Dark/Holy infusions are therefore the best ones against them.

Then why people always recommend rapiers and why they are the most expensive and rare weapons? Plus you can see them in most the people's profiles when they show them.

Nonetheless, for now I bid for that Demonic Rapier of Slaughter as it's IW 10, I can gear it right now and soulfuse it at a cheapish price (250), so I'd have a decent weapon for a while.

As for using infusions... I guess I'd have to enchant.

Then why people always recommend rapiers and why they are the most expensive and rare weapons? Plus you can see them in most the people's profiles when they show them.

Because people who propagate that rapier are no good and want actually to tell people that a short sword is so much better are not only rare, but also wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) A really high damage axe can be faster as a rapier, but only outside of the SG arenas, because of its much higher damage as a rapier, a shortword just dont have enough damage to compensate the lack of PA. And wouldnt want to miss PA not even against SG.

Well, the Wakizashi of the Nimble, as he was suggesting, seems to have it's pros, though. I have used one before my current short sword, and worked quite decently in lower arenas (got obsolete at some point).

My tactic per round this before was:

- Clear out everything except SG, for survival.
- Imperil SG.
- Kill SG.

But decided to change to this:

- Imperil SG.
- Attack SG while leaving the rest of the monsters alone.
- Counter parry/block those to keep OC fat.

Imperil does take 35-40% of the Physical and Magical Defenses (from 50%-ish, as Monsterbation says) and with waki you can counter-parry the rest of the monsters, helping you keep your OC high (that's what I'm doing right now).

Right now I'm doing that with a shortsword and it isn't going as bad as before. I would be open to trying a waki of the nimble, if I found one at a decent price that I can use.

Still, why rapier when you have Imperil for things that you can't normally break? Or it's because higher level monsters got decent PhysDef and I don't want to have to Imperil every time?


Axe is good, but lack of parry is a pain when you want to keep your OC high, plus those hits help you clear the lower leveled arenas faster.

Because no matter what someone did say, it makes a difference if you just imperil an SG, or imperil and PA them.

Also i was using a high damage axe as an example, i doub you actually have such an axe, so it does not matter for you now. Also when you do upgrade your whole equipment you will notice quite fast, that parry stats of your weapons isnt everything. I mean with my flashlight i have a parry of 71.4% but without it i still have 53.5%. So when you actually find/buy such an axe, you can compensate the lack of parry from itself with just with upgrade your Dex.

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jun 1 2019, 03:37

Would this axe that I asked about before count as a high damage axe for my level? ADB seems to be high.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/194729121/3c833af843

Tbh, i would really not suggest to try this at your level, the axe i am talking about is also fully forged, so forget about this for the moment.

Then why people always recommend rapiers and why they are the most expensive and rare weapons? Plus you can see them in most the people's profiles when they show them.

Nonetheless, for now I bid for that Demonic Rapier of Slaughter as it's IW 10, I can gear it right now and soulfuse it at a cheapish price (250), so I'd have a decent weapon for a while.

As for using infusions... I guess I'd have to enchant.

Because they're gullible, have no real clue about what they're doing, even the wiki suggest rapiers (as a lazy but not that stupid choice for gullible players) and they haven't ever tried/considered anything else? You see, the vast majority of this game's players are just sheep who jump in the bandwagon and consider that because a thing is expensive/popular, then it's the best and the rest is shit. Alternative (but perfectly viable) choices are not an option for them.
That was the short answer to your question.

If you paid more attention, I said that rapiers are no good against Schoolgirls. But against the regular mob, they remain good, albeit not the only possibility.

PS:
I usually don't brag about my equipment, but I'm showing it right now to illustrate that there do are players who have feats they can be proud of, yet they remain silent about it.
The weapon that deals insanely powerful counterattacks and holds amazing clear times

This post has been edited by decondelite: Jun 1 2019, 10:03

Don't forget the learning curve of this game, you level up so fast that you don't have much time to learn and trying other stuffs is expensive and since you don't know anything yet newbies have no choice believe in who have more experience. Whould me nice if that topic with tips for beginers had videos with play styles (Itens, Skills and how use it). For example someone like u that play 1H show how to do it right and other players to showing other styles.

Between these 3 rapiers, which one do you think is the best mmm...~?
And I'm currently using the demonic one, is it worth it to change and fully forged another if that one is actually better mmm...~?

Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter

This post has been edited by VawX: Jun 1 2019, 14:03

Yes I know... It's been countless months that I've been saying that I should record how to play Imperil Shortsword, but I'm so much of a busy man. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

PS:
Scanning monsters does register properly in the database now.

Because they're gullible, have no real clue about what they're doing, even the wiki suggest rapiers (as a lazy but not that stupid choice for gullible players) and they haven't ever tried/considered anything else? You see, the vast majority of this game's players are just sheep who jump in the bandwagon and consider that because a thing is expensive/popular, then it's the best and the rest is shit. Alternative (but perfectly viable) choices are not an option for them.
That was the short answer to your question.

If you paid more attention, I said that rapiers are no good against Schoolgirls. But against the regular mob, they remain good, albeit not the only possibility.

PS:
I usually don't brag about my equipment, but I'm showing it right now to illustrate that there do are players who have feats they can be proud of, yet they remain silent about it.
The weapon that deals insanely powerful counterattacks and holds amazing clear times

And why do not you take a comparative test using a Rapier with the same Item World result and the same amount of upgrades as your Shortsword? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Only then we will be able to know the difference between the two swords. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

PS:
Scanning monsters does register properly in the database now.

Excellent! Well done, very fast as well. A big thanks to you and mr random.

Between these 3 rapiers, which one do you think is the best mmm...~?
And I'm currently using the demonic one, is it worth it to change and fully forged another if that one is actually better mmm...~?

Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter

If none were forged I would say arctic has better overall. Since it is forged obviously demonic. It gets harder and harder to increase your damage as you level up so it might be worth it to you or it might not be, I don't know how great arctic is but you always have another spot for whatever infusion you want. Wanna sell me the arctic one? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Uncle Stu, decondelite... I'm grateful for both your help, but all this wrangling between rapier and shortsword it's confusing for a newbie.

I guess there isn't consensus in this.

And yes, decondelite, right now I'm using Shortsword+Imperil (remember that the Ethereal Shortsword is the best of what I have) and it's working better than before.

I don't mind trying styles, tbh, but I'd rather optimize the use of my credits right now. Spending 200k in a sword it's a bit hard on my finances right now. For now I'll go for rapiers, but keep my eyes open for a good waki or shortsword too.

Or at least, I won't discard them if I get them (not that I do that).

Another thing, what elemental strikes are considered "good" and why?

Now that we are discussing styles, I've always wondered:

I understand why Force Shields and Power Armors are preferred (Block and ADB) to "normal" Plates and Bucklers/Kite Shields.

Does that always apply?

And why do not you take a comparative test using a Rapier with the same Item World result and the same amount of upgrades as your Shortsword? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Only then we will be able to know the difference between the two swords. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Give me a Peerless Rapier of Slaughter and then we can talk. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

@ahroun:
It's normal to be a bit lost. To make it as short as possible:
1) Imperil and Penetrated Armor don't combine well.
2) Penetrated Armor does not reduce a monster's mitigation against elements (basically your elemental strikes), while Imperil does.
3) Rapier and Shortsword have basically the same stats everywhere, except the Shortsword has higher ADB and STR.
4) Rapier is easier to use (which is why it's recommended for newbies), but Shortsword is better against SGs and allows for a greater damage output when using Imperil as a 1H player.
5) Rapiers are expensive, Shortswords are dirty cheap.

For weapon prefixes on a 1H weapon:
1) Arctic is generally regarded as the best prefix for 1H, since the Cold strike deals improved damage output against monsters inflicted with a burn (induced by the Fire Spike Shield).
2) Demonic and Hallowed come next, as they deal maximum damage against Schoolgirls. Hallowed also benefits from that against Flying Spaghetti Monster, but Demonic doesn't.
3) Ethereal may sound attractive, but it's actually not very good for rapiers/shortswords/wakizashis because you do get void damage at IW10 anyway, you can negate the Burden/Interference with a feather, and you don't know what element you'll get at IW10 on an ethereal weapon.
4) Fiery/Shocking/Tempestuous are usually regarded as inferior, but that doesn't mean they're bad. You still can use a proper spike shield to make them deal the extra damage.

Force Shield and Power armor: of course not, it doesn't always apply. Lemme illustrate when they're not so great.

Force Shields: they're usually preferred because they have the highest Block chance, but their Interference can be an issue, and they require Defense Matrix Modulators to be forged, which tend to be somewhat expensive. If these issues arise, then a good alternative would be a Buckler of a Barrier, or at worst a Reinforced Kite Shield with an extremely high Block chance. Force Shields are particularly undesired when someone plays 1H mage, which makes a heavy use of mana. In which case a DEA (Dex, End, Agi) Buckler of the Barrier is clearly the best.

Power armor: it's certainly the one thing that boosts the damage output the best out of all armors, while keeping a very good mitigation. But if they still don't provide enough mitigation (which can be the case for a low level player or for 2H), then plate armor can be an option. Don't hesitate to use (Shielding) plate armor if you feel like you're lacking defense, but you've got to be aware that your damage output will suffer from that.
Be aware that power armor has a very high interference aswell, which tends to be an issue for 1H players, especially when they need to heal a lot. Don't hesitate to reduce the interference with Featherweight Shards, it really does wonders and they're dirty cheap.
And again, Power Armor requires Repurposed Actuators to be forged, which are very, very expensive. While forging regular plate armor will be less expensive.
I am even considering shielding plate myself for my future 2H, despite my full peerless power set.

This post has been edited by decondelite: Jun 1 2019, 17:11

Uncle Stu, decondelite... I'm grateful for both your help, but all this wrangling between rapier and shortsword it's confusing for a newbie.

I guess there isn't consensus in this.

the consensus is rapier better than other for 1h-heavy style, try look for other people who push for shortsword in the past few hundreds pages in this thread, you'll find little to nobody other than decon.

Another thing, what elemental strikes are considered "good" and why?

for SG dark/holy, because of this

Now that we are discussing styles, I've always wondered:

I understand why Force Shields and Power Armors are preferred (Block and ADB) to "normal" Plates and Bucklers/Kite Shields.

Does that always apply?

preference is based on each person, force shield is plainly having much higher block than buckler and kite, but you might find a fight between SDE or nothing and non SDE is fine later.

uncle stu use turtle plates, it works and it's his preference, but he prefer to taunt his no-spark-playstyle-e-peen.

but yeah, it's just like that "don't use haste and shadow veil when you don't need it so you could get more counter"
if you put safety above 'small' increase in clear speed, then nobody gonna stop you from using both of them.
just like nobody going to force you to not using power instead of plate, if that's your preference or that's what your budget could afford, just realize that you're dismissing possible extra attack for more excessive defense.
or something like that.

Another thing, what elemental strikes are considered "good" and why?

Well, i would say dark and holy of course, against SG and they are not bad against a lot of other monsters. Cold for its synergy with the flame spike shield and i would say wind isnt so bad, because giants are weak against it and they have a lot of HP.

I understand why Force Shields and Power Armors are preferred (Block and ADB) to "normal" Plates and Bucklers/Kite Shields.

Does that always apply?

Well, normaly yes, but lets say you want to try something like 1H mage, in that case you dont want a Force Shield, too much interference, so you want a buckler instead. Of barrier iirc. And i guess, when you really are in a hurry to play on pfudor it could help use one shielding plate if you dont have the credits to upgrade your PM and MM and you dont worry too much about clearing speed. Does this answer your question?

Time to scan all the monsters!



whoops (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Well, my questions were more to know how effective would be non-cookie cutter builds. In the end, for now I guess I'll go cookie-cutter, but I'm open to exploring other builds if I have the chance and time.

When I saw the shields, my question was around if a fully forged set of Shielded Heavy Armor of Protection/Warding, plus Reinforced Buckler of the Barrier would have Block chances high enough to avoid being hit by most stuff.

Also, if you have Shielded you can increase your Block chances when forging that, can't you?

How does it apply to a Buckler of the Barrier? I guess no extra forging from that?

Combine that with a weapon with Overpower and high damage and sure, you might not be the fastest when hitting, but you will for sure counter every time.

Other option is as stated, 1H mage with a mix of battlecaster (for the accuracy and manga conservation) and featherweight and you might be able to spam magic while you block/counter most of the attacks of the monsters.


Idk, I'm speculating at this point.


PS: Fudo, I don't dislike decondelite's build, tbh. I'm not sure about effectiveness, but Imperil does work quite well. Still, I guess I'll have to try different things and which one suits me better.

A tank battlecaster doesn't look that bad, tbh. Not sure if it's possible, but it's worth a try once I have the finances.

PSS: the thing about Counter is that I like the perverseness of others doing my job for me.

This post has been edited by ahroun: Jun 1 2019, 18:04