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post May 31 2019, 13:28
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Uncle Stu, I know that I don't need a Ethereal Rapier for a proper weapon, as I'd rather have a Hallowed one (for example, to combo it with Holy Imperil) and Hollow-forge it.

Point is, my level is 229. I'm not sure if I would be able to get all those potencies at my level plus soul-fusing, so for now I'm switching weapons all over until I find a suitable one (let's say, a Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter) so that I can start to work with it.

I want to deal Void damage to bypass mitigations and I want a rapier, I guess, for the piercing effect (or however is called).

It being Ethereal is because, for now, it's the easiest and cheapest way of getting Void damage. I expect to discard weapons as I level up until I get a decent quality one.

Right now, the best rapier I have at hand is Exquisite, not even Magnificent.
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post May 31 2019, 13:57
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QUOTE(ahroun @ May 31 2019, 12:28) *

Uncle Stu, I know that I don't need a Ethereal Rapier for a proper weapon, as I'd rather have a Hallowed one (for example, to combo it with Holy Imperil) and Hollow-forge it.

Point is, my level is 229. I'm not sure if I would be able to get all those potencies at my level plus soul-fusing, so for now I'm switching weapons all over until I find a suitable one (let's say, a Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter) so that I can start to work with it.

I want to deal Void damage to bypass mitigations and I want a rapier, I guess, for the piercing effect (or however is called).

It being Ethereal is because, for now, it's the easiest and cheapest way of getting Void damage. I expect to discard weapons as I level up until I get a decent quality one.

Right now, the best rapier I have at hand is Exquisite, not even Magnificent.


There are some players (in the WTS section) who offer free 'simple' IW services to low level players, where they will level an item to 10. You might not get the best potencies possible, but a non-ethereal weapon will always become hollowforged at level 10 and deal void damage. It will be significantly easier than specifically hunting an ethereal weapon, which may cost you more and actually negatively affect you (in that it won't have any burden).

There are a couple cheap mag rapiers of slaughter within your soulfuse range in decondelite's auction right now, too. Consider picking one of those up?

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post May 31 2019, 17:02
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Sold. And the remaining ones are out of my range, lvls 364 and 368.

And not that I have 1500 Soul Fragments to spare. I have 500, barely enough to soulfuse a Magnificent weapon of my level or lower.

Edit: ah, you meant the auction. Yeah, well, I'll try to get that one, but a bit expensive.

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post May 31 2019, 19:55
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As if rapiers were the only viable choice to play 1H...
If it's to use a low level magnificent, I'd totally chose a Wakizashi of the Nimble instead. Way cheaper, way more effective defense-wise.
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post May 31 2019, 20:41
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And offense wise?

It takes me long to kill Konata & friends in lvl 225 arena with my shortsword, even if I imperil them, and I'd like to do that arena faster.

The idea of the rapier is to trigger pierce defense, isn't it?
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post May 31 2019, 21:23
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QUOTE(ahroun @ May 31 2019, 20:41) *

And offense wise?

It takes me long to kill Konata & friends in lvl 225 arena with my shortsword, even if I imperil them, and I'd like to do that arena faster.

The idea of the rapier is to trigger pierce defense, isn't it?

Yes that helps. But if you use imperil on her ass the difference with other high parry weapons is very small. And if you want to make short work of the girls, use some infusions ass well.
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post May 31 2019, 21:33
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 30 2019, 07:34) *

But it looks like the scanning isn't?
I blame everyone who does actually fully read the posts of the person responsible for the database. Tbh i actually only did even give anything to the bounty because i thought that was part of the whole fix goddammned. Are you all now really telling me that i am the only person who did notice how much the shit hit the fan? Really?
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post May 31 2019, 22:05
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QUOTE(ahroun @ May 31 2019, 18:41) *

And offense wise?

It takes me long to kill Konata & friends in lvl 225 arena with my shortsword, even if I imperil them, and I'd like to do that arena faster.

The idea of the rapier is to trigger pierce defense, isn't it?

Rapiers are no good against Schoolgirls, as Penetrated Armor and Imperil are additive, but can't reduce a monster's PMit below 0%. While Bleeding Wound is completely independant and can have 5 stacks at once against SGs, which is ideal.
The cherry on the cake now: SGs have maximum 47%Pmit at your level (66%PMit at level 500), so they should be left to only 7%PMit with Imperil alone. Therefore, a single stack of Penetrated Armor would therefore have almost no effect at all on them after applying Imperil.
Some players do use the Vital Strike skill with their rapier to apply some powerful BW on SGs, but for my part I wouldn't recommend that, as it'd quickly deplete your OC bar and the stacks wear off quickly anyway. And it needs one to be proficient at setting up Monsterbation to keep a smooth gameplay, which is most likely not your case.

As Noni stated, the solution to your issue is quite simple.
You need your weapon to be Hollowforged (IW10) first, with ADB Forge 5 second, and with a total of 3 strikes third (void strike from hollowforged+innate elemental strike+elemental strike from an infusion). That's the very best you can have right now.
If you can, favor a Demonic/Hallowed weapon: Mikuru, Yuki and Ryouko all have -1% elemental mitigation against these two elements. Dark/Holy infusions are therefore the best ones against them.

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post May 31 2019, 22:23
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 31 2019, 21:33) *

I blame everyone who does actually fully read the posts of the person responsible for the database. Tbh i actually only did even give anything to the bounty because i thought that was part of the whole fix goddammned. Are you all now really telling me that i am the only person who did notice how much the shit hit the fan? Really?

There are some very skilled people busy cleaning it up now. Yes the fan was excrement-hit, you noticed that correctly. Keep faith, i am sure things will be spotless and smelling of roses very soon.
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post May 31 2019, 22:31
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 31 2019, 22:23) *

Keep faith,
Yeah, i better dont write what comes into my mind right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jun 1 2019, 01:45
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I've given the entire community two weeks to check if everything was working fine. No one reported anything for this entire time, or should I say no one has given a shit to the entire project. Just like everything else, I might add. Therefore, no complaints allowed.

It's too easy to always leave the same ones with the hands full of shit, to deal with all the crap that does concern everyone, and then to point the finger at them when something goes wrong. I'm fine with carrying that burden (almost) alone without getting any (financial) compensation in return. But at least I'd like to have a very minimum of respect for that, and not to have to bear with people who don't seem to realize that what I'm doing is a privilege and not a due.

For now, if you'll excuse me, leave me alone, be patient, let randomuser and me fix the shit up. Reading unpleasant commentaries is the last thing I need.

@Noni:
Feel free to edit if you want, as I am really pissed right now and I needed to vent my anger a bit.
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post Jun 1 2019, 02:06
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So, I've been accumulating a lot of GP, and I've been wondering about the lottery system. I've been buying only a single ticket for the weapons and armor I'm interested in, but I haven't won anything yet.

Is there any reason to purchase more than one ticket? Also, does the winner of any of the prizes get the things automatically placed in their inventory or do they need to do something to claim them?
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post Jun 1 2019, 02:23
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Jun 1 2019, 02:06) *

So, I've been accumulating a lot of GP, and I've been wondering about the lottery system. I've been buying only a single ticket for the weapons and armor I'm interested in, but I haven't won anything yet.

Is there any reason to purchase more than one ticket?
Well, if you actually want to win something would be the best reason i can think of. Because with only one ticket, you chance of winning something is very slim.
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Also, does the winner of any of the prizes get the things automatically placed in their inventory or do they need to do something to claim them?
When you win, you have it, how that works? Easy, a wizard does it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jun 1 2019, 02:49
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 31 2019, 22:05) *

Rapiers are no good against Schoolgirls, as Penetrated Armor and Imperil are additive, but can't reduce a monster's PMit below 0%. While Bleeding Wound is completely independant and can have 5 stacks at once against SGs, which is ideal.
The cherry on the cake now: SGs have maximum 47%Pmit at your level (66%PMit at level 500), so they should be left to only 7%PMit with Imperil alone. Therefore, a single stack of Penetrated Armor would therefore have almost no effect at all on them after applying Imperil.
Some players do use the Vital Strike skill with their rapier to apply some powerful BW on SGs, but for my part I wouldn't recommend that, as it'd quickly deplete your OC bar and the stacks wear off quickly anyway. And it needs one to be proficient at setting up Monsterbation to keep a smooth gameplay, which is most likely not your case.

As Noni stated, the solution to your issue is quite simple.
You need your weapon to be Hollowforged (IW10) first, with ADB Forge 5 second, and with a total of 3 strikes third (void strike from hollowforged+innate elemental strike+elemental strike from an infusion). That's the very best you can have right now.
If you can, favor a Demonic/Hallowed weapon: Mikuru, Yuki and Ryouko all have -1% elemental mitigation against these two elements. Dark/Holy infusions are therefore the best ones against them.


Then why people always recommend rapiers and why they are the most expensive and rare weapons? Plus you can see them in most the people's profiles when they show them.

Nonetheless, for now I bid for that Demonic Rapier of Slaughter as it's IW 10, I can gear it right now and soulfuse it at a cheapish price (250), so I'd have a decent weapon for a while.

As for using infusions... I guess I'd have to enchant.

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post Jun 1 2019, 02:56
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Then why people always recommend rapiers and why they are the most expensive and rare weapons? Plus you can see them in most the people's profiles when they show them.
Because people who propagate that rapier are no good and want actually to tell people that a short sword is so much better are not only rare, but also wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) A really high damage axe can be faster as a rapier, but only outside of the SG arenas, because of its much higher damage as a rapier, a shortword just dont have enough damage to compensate the lack of PA. And wouldnt want to miss PA not even against SG.
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post Jun 1 2019, 03:15
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Well, the Wakizashi of the Nimble, as he was suggesting, seems to have it's pros, though. I have used one before my current short sword, and worked quite decently in lower arenas (got obsolete at some point).

My tactic per round this before was:

- Clear out everything except SG, for survival.
- Imperil SG.
- Kill SG.

But decided to change to this:

- Imperil SG.
- Attack SG while leaving the rest of the monsters alone.
- Counter parry/block those to keep OC fat.

Imperil does take 35-40% of the Physical and Magical Defenses (from 50%-ish, as Monsterbation says) and with waki you can counter-parry the rest of the monsters, helping you keep your OC high (that's what I'm doing right now).

Right now I'm doing that with a shortsword and it isn't going as bad as before. I would be open to trying a waki of the nimble, if I found one at a decent price that I can use.

Still, why rapier when you have Imperil for things that you can't normally break? Or it's because higher level monsters got decent PhysDef and I don't want to have to Imperil every time?


Axe is good, but lack of parry is a pain when you want to keep your OC high, plus those hits help you clear the lower leveled arenas faster.
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post Jun 1 2019, 03:33
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Because no matter what someone did say, it makes a difference if you just imperil an SG, or imperil and PA them.

Also i was using a high damage axe as an example, i doub you actually have such an axe, so it does not matter for you now. Also when you do upgrade your whole equipment you will notice quite fast, that parry stats of your weapons isnt everything. I mean with my flashlight i have a parry of 71.4% but without it i still have 53.5%. So when you actually find/buy such an axe, you can compensate the lack of parry from itself with just with upgrade your Dex.

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post Jun 1 2019, 04:37
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Would this axe that I asked about before count as a high damage axe for my level? ADB seems to be high.

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post Jun 1 2019, 05:03
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Tbh, i would really not suggest to try this at your level, the axe i am talking about is also fully forged, so forget about this for the moment.
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post Jun 1 2019, 09:44
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QUOTE(ahroun @ Jun 1 2019, 00:49) *

Then why people always recommend rapiers and why they are the most expensive and rare weapons? Plus you can see them in most the people's profiles when they show them.

Nonetheless, for now I bid for that Demonic Rapier of Slaughter as it's IW 10, I can gear it right now and soulfuse it at a cheapish price (250), so I'd have a decent weapon for a while.

As for using infusions... I guess I'd have to enchant.

Because they're gullible, have no real clue about what they're doing, even the wiki suggest rapiers (as a lazy but not that stupid choice for gullible players) and they haven't ever tried/considered anything else? You see, the vast majority of this game's players are just sheep who jump in the bandwagon and consider that because a thing is expensive/popular, then it's the best and the rest is shit. Alternative (but perfectly viable) choices are not an option for them.
That was the short answer to your question.

If you paid more attention, I said that rapiers are no good against Schoolgirls. But against the regular mob, they remain good, albeit not the only possibility.

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I usually don't brag about my equipment, but I'm showing it right now to illustrate that there do are players who have feats they can be proud of, yet they remain silent about it.
The weapon that deals insanely powerful counterattacks and holds amazing clear times

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