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May 25 2019, 14:09
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zu0
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is there a way to check the "true" base stats of an item? (like if its upgraded what the base stats were without the upgrades)
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May 25 2019, 16:27
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(Monomulti @ May 25 2019, 11:28)  So I've read a some guides and the advice wiki page. As far as I can tell, for low levels (< 150), it doesn't seem like there's much to actively do. So far I've just been clearing out arena quests daily and pop in every now and then for a random encounter.
Is there something else I should be adding to this routine? Or is this basically as much as I can progress daily for the early game?
It's like that at very low level, and you can use the Chaos Token you sometimes get from Arenas to open slots in Monster's Lab and create monsters, those will bring you gifts (read the wiki for details). QUOTE(zu0 @ May 25 2019, 14:09)  is there a way to check the "true" base stats of an item? (like if its upgraded what the base stats were without the upgrades)
Not in the standard interface. You can use add-ons, i.e. scripts, that calculate that "backward", though they are not absolutely precise.
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May 25 2019, 16:28
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Monomulti @ May 25 2019, 11:28)  So I've read a some guides and the advice wiki page. As far as I can tell, for low levels (< 150), it doesn't seem like there's much to actively do. So far I've just been clearing out arena quests daily and pop in every now and then for a random encounter.
Is there something else I should be adding to this routine? Or is this basically as much as I can progress daily for the early game?
Routine is good, keep it like that. Add more random encounters if you can. In the mean time: 1. try higher difficulties, see what you can manage with your current gear 2. upgrade your gear 3. try higher difficulties again Etc. QUOTE(zu0 @ May 25 2019, 14:09)  is there a way to check the "true" base stats of an item? (like if its upgraded what the base stats were without the upgrades)
Yes. Just install Live percental ranges script, and press 'a'
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May 25 2019, 22:08
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magiclamp
Group: Gold Star Club
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Quick question on legendary frugal cotton shoes of the elementalist - somehow I see fewer of those than charged XD What would be an attractive offer to buy something with decent rolls (60%+) on evade/proficiency?
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May 25 2019, 22:11
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Noni
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QUOTE(magiclamp @ May 25 2019, 22:08)  Quick question on legendary frugal cotton shoes of the elementalist - somehow I see fewer of those than charged XD What would be an attractive offer to buy something with decent rolls (60%+) on evade/proficiency?
should be cheap. mana potions are so cheap that nobody needs frugal. That makes it actually slightly worse than an elemental prefix. So you just pay for the prof %. 60% is cheap, 90% costs some more.
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May 26 2019, 00:28
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magiclamp
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 25 2019, 15:11)  should be cheap. mana potions are so cheap that nobody needs frugal. That makes it actually slightly worse than an elemental prefix. So you just pay for the prof %. 60% is cheap, 90% costs some more.
That makes sense! Many thanks for your insight once again Noni!
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May 26 2019, 01:24
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ikki.
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 25 2019, 23:11)  nobody needs frugal.
Lier! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) i have full Legendary Frugal of Niflheim set.
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May 26 2019, 01:43
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Lelouch vi Britannia
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What's the ideal one handed weapon and shield for one handed fighting style?
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May 26 2019, 01:57
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Lelouch vi Britannia @ May 26 2019, 01:43)  What's the ideal one handed weapon and shield for one handed fighting style?
As weapon a rapier of slaughter is as high as possible damage and good parry is imo also important. As shield a force shield with SDE and as high as possible block.
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May 27 2019, 03:08
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ahroun
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When is a good moment to start upgrading your gears to get forging experience?
I change them periodically (lvl 200ish) and I want to get forging exp so that when I get soulfused stuff (I guess no soulfusions until I get something peerless/legendary) I can do it right.
But when is a good moment to start and what should be the quality of the equipment to upgrade?
Well, it would only be my magnificient ethereal waki, as the rest of the stuff is power/force and repurposed actuators are kinda expensive to use them on a temporary weapon.
Obviously, I wouldn't put any binding or rare materials on them, just basic stuff.
Still, should I wait until I get to higher levels or I could upgrade stuff now?
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May 27 2019, 03:27
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 03:08)  When is a good moment to start upgrading your gears to get forging experience?
Ehm, you should upgrade your equipment to get stronger, but not for forge xp. At least not at your level. QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 03:08)  I change them periodically (lvl 200ish)
But when you stop doing that, would be a good moment, to start upgrading your equipment. QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 03:08)  and I want to get forging exp so that when I get soulfused stuff (I guess no soulfusions until I get something peerless/legendary) I can do it right.
And waste a shit-tone of credits with all those materials you will loose even when you salvage them? When you want to do it right, choose the right priorities. You forge level is not one of them you should have. QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 03:08)  But when is a good moment to start and what should be the quality of the equipment to upgrade?
Well, i allready told you the moment and Mag would be a good equipment tier. QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 03:08)  Well, it would only be my magnificient ethereal waki, as the rest of the stuff is power/force and repurposed actuators are kinda expensive to use them on a temporary weapon.
Ehm, maybe you want to refrain that sentence, because you dont need even a single actuator for your weapons. QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 03:08)  Obviously, I wouldn't put any binding or rare materials on them, just basic stuff.
That would still be quite some money for most people at your level. QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 03:08)  Still, should I wait until I get to higher levels or I could upgrade stuff now?
Hm, no you should wait until you goit equipment you actually would and will soulfuse. Btw a waki is imo not really the best weapon for 1H, for your level i guess it is okay, but maybe something you want to keep in mind.
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May 27 2019, 06:28
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ahroun
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So I guess wait for level 500 then? As it's when I will stop switching equipment for those of higher levels, unless I get Peerless (and that won't happen, I guess).
And btw, that waki is there because it did better than the Ethereal Rapier I had before. The damage was similar, but the waki has better parry and allows me to counter, so I deal a lot of damage from that.
Obviously I want a better Ethereal Rapier, Magnificent if possible, as the other higher level Exquisite Rapier I have I can't equip yet, is "of the Nimble", so damage is slightly lower and with worse specs; and I can't equip it yet (lvl 229).
Thanks for the advice.
This post has been edited by ahroun: May 27 2019, 06:28
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May 27 2019, 07:31
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KamuiSeph
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 13:28)  As it's when I will stop switching equipment for those of higher levels
You will stop switching waaay before that. In general melee is cheap to forge, so you can forge any equip you are wearing to lvl 5 on all stats. And speaking of when you will stop switching equipment, once you get Legendary armor/weapons with ADB 50% or above, there won't be much incentive to switch over. Either way, at the moment I wouldn't upgrade anything past lvl 5 if I were you. Once you get to lvl ~350-400 that's when you'll start getting equips that last a long time. I wouldn't soulfuse stuff either if I were you. At least not until you get Legendary with good ADB. Then again, I would suggest you get ready to swap over to mage at lvl 350. Because even the cheapest mage set up is way faster than melee. P.s. forging level doesn't matter. If you REALLY want to get high forging, you can just send your gear with the materials over to someone who has max forge level and they'll upgrade it for you. This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: May 27 2019, 07:35
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May 27 2019, 08:42
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☆Loli Police☆
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 28-July 10

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Whats the most versatile melee setup I can build? I want something that's useful in different fighting styles such as 1HD, DW and Ninten.
I've been considering a Shadowdancer set, Agile or Savage?
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May 27 2019, 08:59
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 12-July 14

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There is no "most versatile" melee set, only melee sets with different kinds of focus. If you want something that does a compromize between defense, clear speed and pretty muych everything, I'd say that Power/Plate 2H is quite spot-on, yet it's very unpopular because it doesn't excel anywhere: you can go faster by playing mage, and it doesn't provide the defense of 1H or even high-speed DW / FRD DW / FRD Niten.
When it comes to a Shadowdancer set, be it Savage or Agile, be prepared for the extreme rarity of those parts. Agile is more popular, mostly because the point of shade armor is to avoid attacks... and to be so God damn fast for the sake of coolness.
I'd advice you to rather choose what you want to focus on, and what you enjoy. You must like the way you're playing, otherwise it's quite pointless.
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May 27 2019, 13:45
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ahroun
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ May 27 2019, 07:31)  You will stop switching waaay before that. In general melee is cheap to forge, so you can forge any equip you are wearing to lvl 5 on all stats. And speaking of when you will stop switching equipment, once you get Legendary armor/weapons with ADB 50% or above, there won't be much incentive to switch over.
Either way, at the moment I wouldn't upgrade anything past lvl 5 if I were you. Once you get to lvl ~350-400 that's when you'll start getting equips that last a long time.
I wouldn't soulfuse stuff either if I were you. At least not until you get Legendary with good ADB. Then again, I would suggest you get ready to swap over to mage at lvl 350. Because even the cheapest mage set up is way faster than melee. P.s. forging level doesn't matter. If you REALLY want to get high forging, you can just send your gear with the materials over to someone who has max forge level and they'll upgrade it for you.
How do I figure a good ADB (Attack Damage Bonus)? I've checked this page on the Wiki, but I can't figure out how it works. https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_RangesThis question would apply to any piece of gear. As for my choice of melee, is mostly because I'm lazy and don't want to think. Still, I'm saving all phase and shade stuff for now to be open to any set up, plus a decent staff, if I find it. Thanks again for the help.
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May 27 2019, 18:00
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OBV
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Hello guys, May I ask if 2H or Niten Ichiryuu is better? What are their advantages?
Some how I remember Niten Ichiryuu was op but now I usually see people go 1H or 2H Stopped playing it long time ago and picked up again last month! Open to any advice and opinion!
Cheers!
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May 27 2019, 18:11
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 06:28)  So I guess wait for level 500 then?
No, i didnt say that, not even something close to that. Like Kamui said long before level 500. QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 06:28)  As it's when I will stop switching equipment for those of higher levels, unless I get Peerless (and that won't happen, I guess).
You dont need peerl. There is a lot of good equipment out there that isnt peerl. QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 06:28)  And btw, that waki is there because it did better than the Ethereal Rapier I had before. The damage was similar, but the waki has better parry and allows me to counter, so I deal a lot of damage from that.
Well, parry is fine and yeah, i can see why you did switch to the waki when the damage was equal but parry was higher. But ethereal is nothing but overrated. And i still dont understand why it is. QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 06:28)  Obviously I want a better Ethereal Rapier, Magnificent if possible, as the other higher level Exquisite Rapier I have I can't equip yet, is "of the Nimble", so damage is slightly lower and with worse specs; and I can't equip it yet (lvl 229).
No, you wont. You want a rapier with an element. Something like holy, dark, ice, maybe elec or wind. QUOTE(ahroun @ May 27 2019, 13:45)  How do I figure a good ADB (Attack Damage Bonus)? I've checked this page on the Wiki, but I can't figure out how it works.
Well, you can use the equiment range, but i would suggest just use the Live Percentile Ranges scripts. QUOTE(OBV @ May 27 2019, 18:00)  Hello guys,
Hello. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(OBV @ May 27 2019, 18:00)  May I ask if 2H or Niten Ichiryuu is better? What are their advantages?
Well, overall it would be Niten, damage and parry is overall higher, but it would take some time to the needed good waki and Katana. And of course the prof gain will be a problem. Iirc it is halved between DW and 2H so i wouldnt use it without at least a few level of assimilator training. QUOTE(OBV @ May 27 2019, 18:00)  Some how I remember Niten Ichiryuu was op but now I usually see people go 1H or 2H Stopped playing it long time ago and picked up again last month! Open to any advice and opinion!
Yeah, not many do actually play it, so i guess there is a reason for that. I would suggest play something differen first until you are ready with at least decent weapon and some training and try it after that.
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May 28 2019, 03:56
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Somnophil
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Noob question: I currently use 2h with light armor, and mostly play the shorter arenas on Nintendo or lower difficulty. (I'm less interested in clearing everything on high difficulties, than I am on low-effort grinding and gathering loot to sell or use to enhance my monster stable) How much longer will 2h-light be viable play style for me as I level up? What changes will I eventually need to make in order to still be able to play at Nintendo or Hell difficulty? To clarify, my weapon is a hollow-forged magnificent demonic mace of balance, and my armor is a mixture of whatever exquisite-legendary gear I can get my hands on. I have grown very attached to 2h maces, because stunned enemies don't fight back. ALSO: is anyone else still having trouble viewing [ hvlist.niblseed.com] https://hvlist.niblseed.com? I heard the issue was supposed to have been fixed, but it still appears blank to me. This post has been edited by Somnophil: May 28 2019, 04:04
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May 28 2019, 05:07
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Somnophil @ May 28 2019, 03:56)  Noob question: I currently use 2h with light armor, and mostly play the shorter arenas on Nintendo or lower difficulty. (I'm less interested in clearing everything on high difficulties, than I am on low-effort grinding and gathering loot to sell or use to enhance my monster stable) How much longer will 2h-light be viable play style for me as I level up?
Well, with a bit of work, better equipment, forging, you could play up to level 500 with it. But you should really switch to rainbow niten mage after level 501. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE(Somnophil @ May 28 2019, 03:56)  What changes will I eventually need to make in order to still be able to play at Nintendo or Hell difficulty?
Better equipment, some forging and a few level ups also cant hurt.
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