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May 19 2019, 06:10
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 18 2019, 19:16)  Like when I leveled up from 491 to 492, my ADB only went up 18(I think). That doesn't seem right, does it?
Do you also consider the damage you get from str & dex (which are also scaling)? Damage gain diminishes the higher they are. Math nerds please help.
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May 19 2019, 06:30
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Drksrpnt
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ May 19 2019, 00:10)  Do you also consider the damage you get from str & dex (which are also scaling)? Damage gain diminishes the higher they are.
Math nerds please help.
I mean when I level up my damage goes up WAY LESS than what I'm expecting considering all the forge upgrades I've done.
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May 19 2019, 06:36
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 19 2019, 06:30)  I mean when I level up my damage goes up WAY LESS than what I'm expecting considering all the forge upgrades I've done.
Okay, i guess now i get it. You think you would get a higher bonus per level-up when you did a lot of upgrades? Well, i thought that once myself, but that is not true. So i guess a level up is sort of a multiplicator who got increased, while the upgrades are just get addited or something like that. I am sure the true formulia is more complicated as if would actually care to find out. But when i think of the spreadsheets from scremaz i am sure he has roughly something like that.
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May 19 2019, 06:51
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Drksrpnt
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 19 2019, 00:36)  Okay, i guess now i get it. You think you would get a higher bonus per level-up when you did a lot of upgrades? Well, i thought that once myself, but that is not true. So i guess a level up is sort of a multiplicator who got increased, while the upgrades are just get addited or something like that. I am sure the true formulia is more complicated as if would actually care to find out. But when i think of the spreadsheets from scremaz i am sure he has roughly something like that.
Yeah that's what I meant, thanks.
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May 19 2019, 06:56
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PersonaFan08
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Nevermind.
I'll just wait until I wake up tomorrow morning and then I'll find out how much costs Archeologist Level 6 for myself.
This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: May 19 2019, 07:12
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May 19 2019, 07:02
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SPoison
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I don't understand the confusion with upgrades. Are you saying once already upgraded that the upgraded numbers aren't scaling with your level correct?
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Are you saying as you further upgrade an equip the increase is not as high as in the early upgrades of the same equip?
For the second one that I believe that is meant to work like that, in the beginning upgrades give much bigger boosts but scale down as they are further upgraded.
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May 19 2019, 07:03
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 18 2019, 22:30)  I mean when I level up my damage goes up WAY LESS than what I'm expecting considering all the forge upgrades I've done.
& that damage comes from both scaling equipment adb & equipment pab, you need to separate those. Every time you level up, you get scaled damage upgrade (supposedly) as expected, but the damage gain from pab diminishes according to this QUOTE (log(3330 + STR * 2 + DEX , 1.0003) - 27039.81)
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May 19 2019, 07:09
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Uncle Stu
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Just checked the wiki because i thought we have a list of all those costs. But of course, wiki did again fucked up. I mean The credit cost of any training can be calculated as: Cost = round[(base_cost + level_cost * N) ^ (1 + exponent * N)] what? Cost the disk space for the wiki too much or why do we get such a formula instead of the actual prices? I sure as sure will not make the work to find out what i actually have to calculate there, but hey if you want, be my guest. Btw, that remind me of another page where the wiki did fucked up. The formula for crystals dropped is as follows: Crystal Drop = floor((crystarium) * (diffmod + min(gfbonus, (gfbonus / 500) * round))) And it is the same bullshit and i am sure as sure we had a full table. And i also did remember how disapointed i was and how much i wanted to know, because monsterbation made if of course really hard to notice, but i did refuse to calculate and i am sure other did too. So can someone explain to me why we hide information in the wiki behind formulas instead of just writing the information down? Wiki i hate you. I really do. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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May 19 2019, 07:21
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Drksrpnt
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QUOTE(SPoison @ May 19 2019, 01:02)  I don't understand the confusion with upgrades. Are you saying once already upgraded that the upgraded numbers aren't scaling with your level correct?
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Are you saying as you further upgrade an equip the increase is not as high as in the early upgrades of the same equip?
For the second one that I believe that is meant to work like that, in the beginning upgrades give much bigger boosts but scale down as they are further upgraded.
Closer to the first one, I'm talking about HV level. And that my total damage from everything added together seems low considering all the STR/DEX and ADB upgrades I've done, that's all. It just feels like the numbers aren't scaling to my level as much as they should, considering my gear is soulbound and everything should go up at the same time... which it does, just not as much as I'm expecting.
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May 19 2019, 11:40
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 19 2019, 12:21)  It just feels like the numbers aren't scaling to my level as much as they should, considering my gear is soulbound and everything should go up at the same time... which it does, just not as much as I'm expecting.
The simplest explanation is you expect too much.
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May 19 2019, 12:13
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 19 2019, 05:21)  It just feels like the numbers aren't scaling to my level as much as they should, considering my gear is soulbound and everything should go up at the same time... which it does, just not as much as I'm expecting.
Why do you think I'm doing my best in order not to level up?
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May 19 2019, 16:45
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Darber1337
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Update is a legend?
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May 19 2019, 21:40
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sickentide
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QUOTE(uareader @ May 18 2019, 17:57)  But despite reaching level 430, didn't see a message about getting a Mastery point.
i may be misremembering, but could it be that the mastery point is awarded at level 431? at level 479, i have gained 48 mastery points from levelups, which adds up assuming you gain 1 point at level 1... unless you start with 1 point at level 0
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May 20 2019, 00:49
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pir3sbruno
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Does anyone know a way to use the side buttons of the mouse as shortcut playing HV? Like use potion etc.
nvm found it
This post has been edited by pir3sbruno: May 20 2019, 03:17
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May 21 2019, 00:49
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ikki.
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a few days ago i clear all arenas and get 0 tokens of blood. then, i haven't played a couple of days, only a few RE. today i clear all arenas and get... 0 tokens of blood. 2000+ rounds, zero tokens of blood. how can this be?
and can i get back the hath that i spent on tokenizer 3?
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May 21 2019, 02:37
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The8Vampire
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i been out cold for too long just got back to my tooo old account ineed help this is my stats using Niten (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/3ztG4yb.jpg) any advice !!! change style ? This post has been edited by The8Vampire: May 21 2019, 02:41
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May 21 2019, 03:00
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(The8Vampire @ May 21 2019, 02:37)  i been out cold for too long just got back to my tooo old account ineed help this is my stats using Niten any advice !!! change style ?
Main problem I see there is that Equip Prof in both Two-Handed and Dual Wielding is almost 40 level BELOW your current level. They should both be AT LEAST at your level (or a couple higher even), since both count for NiTen abilities. Also, I suppose you have some older equips, and possibly some Exquisite. Obsolete equips with low ID have lower stats then comparable recent equips, especially ADB for weapons. You should check it, too. If you wanna change style, current meta says at this level is better to play 1H-Heavy. And it is surely easier and safer, but terribly slow and boring too, mind you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by mundomuñeca: May 21 2019, 03:01
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May 21 2019, 03:41
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The8Vampire
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ May 21 2019, 01:00)  Main problem I see there is that Equip Prof in both Two-Handed and Dual Wielding is almost 40 level BELOW your current level. They should both be AT LEAST at your level (or a couple higher even), since both count for NiTen abilities. Also, I suppose you have some older equips, and possibly some Exquisite. Obsolete equips with low ID have lower stats then comparable recent equips, especially ADB for weapons. You should check it, too. If you wanna change style, current meta says at this level is better to play 1H-Heavy. And it is surely easier and safer, but terribly slow and boring too, mind you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) sorry for the trouble m8 i forgot all about HV i need to get it from scratch + the new things those are my equipment https://hentaiverse.org/equip/67733126/426864920bhttps://hentaiverse.org/equip/46148889/dbca440d14https://hentaiverse.org/equip/33538568/52d2474dc3https://hentaiverse.org/equip/37816382/151d89a735https://hentaiverse.org/equip/38102517/1d7e198fcfhttps://hentaiverse.org/equip/26086336/a94dd16dc2https://hentaiverse.org/equip/37151186/bc7c306c28can you check if good or not thanks you
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May 21 2019, 03:49
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ May 21 2019, 00:49)  2000+ rounds, zero tokens of blood. how can this be?
Very bad rng i would say. It is rare and i mean very rare for this to happen, but it is not impossible.
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