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post May 19 2019, 06:10
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 18 2019, 19:16) *

Like when I leveled up from 491 to 492, my ADB only went up 18(I think). That doesn't seem right, does it?

Do you also consider the damage you get from str & dex (which are also scaling)? Damage gain diminishes the higher they are.

Math nerds please help.
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post May 19 2019, 06:30
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ May 19 2019, 00:10) *

Do you also consider the damage you get from str & dex (which are also scaling)? Damage gain diminishes the higher they are.

Math nerds please help.


I mean when I level up my damage goes up WAY LESS than what I'm expecting considering all the forge upgrades I've done.
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post May 19 2019, 06:36
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 19 2019, 06:30) *

I mean when I level up my damage goes up WAY LESS than what I'm expecting considering all the forge upgrades I've done.

Okay, i guess now i get it. You think you would get a higher bonus per level-up when you did a lot of upgrades? Well, i thought that once myself, but that is not true. So i guess a level up is sort of a multiplicator who got increased, while the upgrades are just get addited or something like that. I am sure the true formulia is more complicated as if would actually care to find out. But when i think of the spreadsheets from scremaz i am sure he has roughly something like that.
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post May 19 2019, 06:51
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 19 2019, 00:36) *

Okay, i guess now i get it. You think you would get a higher bonus per level-up when you did a lot of upgrades? Well, i thought that once myself, but that is not true. So i guess a level up is sort of a multiplicator who got increased, while the upgrades are just get addited or something like that. I am sure the true formulia is more complicated as if would actually care to find out. But when i think of the spreadsheets from scremaz i am sure he has roughly something like that.


Yeah that's what I meant, thanks.
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post May 19 2019, 06:53
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 19 2019, 06:51) *

Yeah that's what I meant, thanks.
Well, i took the long way around. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) But you are welcome. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post May 19 2019, 06:56
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Nevermind.

I'll just wait until I wake up tomorrow morning and then I'll find out how much costs Archeologist Level 6 for myself.

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post May 19 2019, 07:02
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I don't understand the confusion with upgrades. Are you saying once already upgraded that the upgraded numbers aren't scaling with your level correct?

OR

Are you saying as you further upgrade an equip the increase is not as high as in the early upgrades of the same equip?

For the second one that I believe that is meant to work like that, in the beginning upgrades give much bigger boosts but scale down as they are further upgraded.
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post May 19 2019, 07:03
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 18 2019, 22:30) *

I mean when I level up my damage goes up WAY LESS than what I'm expecting considering all the forge upgrades I've done.

& that damage comes from both scaling equipment adb & equipment pab, you need to separate those. Every time you level up, you get scaled damage upgrade (supposedly) as expected, but the damage gain from pab diminishes according to this
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(log(3330 + STR * 2 + DEX , 1.0003) - 27039.81)
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post May 19 2019, 07:09
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Just checked the wiki because i thought we have a list of all those costs. But of course, wiki did again fucked up.
I mean
The credit cost of any training can be calculated as:

Cost = round[(base_cost + level_cost * N) ^ (1 + exponent * N)]
what?

Cost the disk space for the wiki too much or why do we get such a formula instead of the actual prices? I sure as sure will not make the work to find out what i actually have to calculate there, but hey if you want, be my guest.

Btw, that remind me of another page where the wiki did fucked up.

The formula for crystals dropped is as follows:

Crystal Drop = floor((crystarium) * (diffmod + min(gfbonus, (gfbonus / 500) * round)))

And it is the same bullshit and i am sure as sure we had a full table. And i also did remember how disapointed i was and how much i wanted to know, because monsterbation made if of course really hard to notice, but i did refuse to calculate and i am sure other did too. So can someone explain to me why we hide information in the wiki behind formulas instead of just writing the information down? Wiki i hate you. I really do. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post May 19 2019, 07:21
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QUOTE(SPoison @ May 19 2019, 01:02) *

I don't understand the confusion with upgrades. Are you saying once already upgraded that the upgraded numbers aren't scaling with your level correct?

OR

Are you saying as you further upgrade an equip the increase is not as high as in the early upgrades of the same equip?

For the second one that I believe that is meant to work like that, in the beginning upgrades give much bigger boosts but scale down as they are further upgraded.


Closer to the first one, I'm talking about HV level. And that my total damage from everything added together seems low considering all the STR/DEX and ADB upgrades I've done, that's all.

It just feels like the numbers aren't scaling to my level as much as they should, considering my gear is soulbound and everything should go up at the same time... which it does, just not as much as I'm expecting.
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post May 19 2019, 11:40
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 19 2019, 12:21) *

It just feels like the numbers aren't scaling to my level as much as they should, considering my gear is soulbound and everything should go up at the same time... which it does, just not as much as I'm expecting.


The simplest explanation is you expect too much.
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post May 19 2019, 12:13
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 19 2019, 05:21) *

It just feels like the numbers aren't scaling to my level as much as they should, considering my gear is soulbound and everything should go up at the same time... which it does, just not as much as I'm expecting.

Why do you think I'm doing my best in order not to level up?
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post May 19 2019, 16:45
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Update is a legend?
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post May 19 2019, 21:40
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QUOTE(uareader @ May 18 2019, 17:57) *

But despite reaching level 430, didn't see a message about getting a Mastery point.

i may be misremembering, but could it be that the mastery point is awarded at level 431? at level 479, i have gained 48 mastery points from levelups, which adds up assuming you gain 1 point at level 1... unless you start with 1 point at level 0
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post May 20 2019, 00:49
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Does anyone know a way to use the side buttons of the mouse as shortcut playing HV? Like use potion etc.

nvm found it

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post May 21 2019, 00:49
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a few days ago i clear all arenas and get 0 tokens of blood.
then, i haven't played a couple of days, only a few RE.
today i clear all arenas and get... 0 tokens of blood.
2000+ rounds, zero tokens of blood. how can this be?
and can i get back the hath that i spent on tokenizer 3?
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post May 21 2019, 02:37
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i been out cold for too long

just got back to my tooo old account

ineed help

this is my stats using Niten

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/3ztG4yb.jpg)

any advice !!! change style ?

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post May 21 2019, 03:00
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QUOTE(The8Vampire @ May 21 2019, 02:37) *

i been out cold for too long
just got back to my tooo old account
ineed help
this is my stats using Niten
any advice !!! change style ?


Main problem I see there is that Equip Prof in both Two-Handed and Dual Wielding is almost 40 level BELOW your current level.

They should both be AT LEAST at your level (or a couple higher even), since both count for NiTen abilities.

Also, I suppose you have some older equips, and possibly some Exquisite.
Obsolete equips with low ID have lower stats then comparable recent equips, especially ADB for weapons.

You should check it, too.

If you wanna change style, current meta says at this level is better to play 1H-Heavy.
And it is surely easier and safer, but terribly slow and boring too, mind you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post May 21 2019, 03:41
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ May 21 2019, 01:00) *

Main problem I see there is that Equip Prof in both Two-Handed and Dual Wielding is almost 40 level BELOW your current level.

They should both be AT LEAST at your level (or a couple higher even), since both count for NiTen abilities.

Also, I suppose you have some older equips, and possibly some Exquisite.
Obsolete equips with low ID have lower stats then comparable recent equips, especially ADB for weapons.

You should check it, too.

If you wanna change style, current meta says at this level is better to play 1H-Heavy.
And it is surely easier and safer, but terribly slow and boring too, mind you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


sorry for the trouble m8

i forgot all about HV i need to get it from scratch + the new things

those are my equipment

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/67733126/426864920b
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/46148889/dbca440d14
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/33538568/52d2474dc3
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/37816382/151d89a735
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/38102517/1d7e198fcf
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/26086336/a94dd16dc2
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/37151186/bc7c306c28

can you check if good or not

thanks you
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post May 21 2019, 03:49
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ May 21 2019, 00:49) *

2000+ rounds, zero tokens of blood. how can this be?

Very bad rng i would say. It is rare and i mean very rare for this to happen, but it is not impossible.
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