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May 17 2019, 09:15
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,434
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(feathered @ May 17 2019, 08:09)  Grinding IW as we understand it is trying to get 1.2x EXP modifier to gain, other than EXP itself, proficiency. Arenas offer better EXP multiplier. Try to do Arenas at highest difficulty first. Grinding IW is only make sense if you've done all Arenas for the day. I even think Grindfest offers better reward than IW grind.
not all arenas give better EXP though. My Peerless Leather breastplate and Peerless shade breastplate both have PXP 393, and only the 150 round, 80 round and 100 round arena's give more EXP per stamina. They are on par with the 90 round arena, and even better than the 110 round arena. The leather is soulfused from lottery, but it gives even more exp than the shade. This post has been edited by DJNoni: May 17 2019, 09:15
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May 17 2019, 10:11
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,941
Joined: 29-January 12

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QUOTE(feathered @ May 17 2019, 07:09)  Huh? If I remember correctly your initial problem is your equipment cannot support you at later rounds of IW. IW-ing high PXP equipment will exacerbate the problem, as it would have more rounds to clear. Doing IW while equipping high PXP equipment has no effect on IW difficulty. (well, higher PXP equipment of same category is usually better than lower ones, but that's not the point).
Grinding IW as we understand it is trying to get 1.2x EXP modifier to gain, other than EXP itself, proficiency. Arenas offer better EXP multiplier. Try to do Arenas at highest difficulty first. Grinding IW is only make sense if you've done all Arenas for the day. I even think Grindfest offers better reward than IW grind.
That depends on what your goal for grinding is... if it's exp alone, then like Noni says, you have to factor in the quality (peerless gets a higher mod than legendary), and at legendary quality, a 100 round IW is slightly better than the arenas with rounds 75 or lower (and the 125 round one, too). It's only marginally better than grindfest, even. That said, there are those who would argue every single arena is worth doing for the clear bonuses (helps accumulate valuable chaos tokens), and if your concern is profitability alone, then depending on your crystarium perk level, grindfest becomes stronger than the others. ... in other words, for most players, balance is everything. Clear your arenas and REs. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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May 18 2019, 12:56
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mangafans1
Group: Members
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Joined: 10-October 17

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which one i should choose ? newbie cant distinguish which one is better please help (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i know both staff is too weak to use but it‘s all i have both them from The Shrine meg one is what i am using for a while Magnificent Willow Staff of DestructionSoulbound, IW 9, forged 5, Mag ranges: MDB 3%, Int 9%, Wis 69%, Depr Prof 65%, CR 66%, Burden 24% Exquisite Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction255, Exq ranges: MDB 57%, Int 92%, Wis 98%, Wind EDB 60%, Elem Prof 60%, Depr Prof 77%, CR 72%, Burden 10% also for a one hand IW only set which one is better ? Magnificent Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter254, Mag ranges: ADB 30%, Parry 89%, Str 54%, Dex 74% Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Balance254, Mag ranges: ADB 62%, Parry 35%, Str 37%, Agi 48% This post has been edited by mangafans1: May 18 2019, 13:00
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May 18 2019, 15:50
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,434
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(mangafans1 @ May 18 2019, 12:56)  which one i should choose ? newbie cant distinguish which one is better please help (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i know both staff is too weak to use but it‘s all i have both them from The Shrine meg one is what i am using for a while Magnificent Willow Staff of DestructionSoulbound, IW 9, forged 5, Mag ranges: MDB 3%, Int 9%, Wis 69%, Depr Prof 65%, CR 66%, Burden 24% Exquisite Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction255, Exq ranges: MDB 57%, Int 92%, Wis 98%, Wind EDB 60%, Elem Prof 60%, Depr Prof 77%, CR 72%, Burden 10% also for a one hand IW only set which one is better ? Magnificent Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter254, Mag ranges: ADB 30%, Parry 89%, Str 54%, Dex 74% Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Balance254, Mag ranges: ADB 62%, Parry 35%, Str 37%, Agi 48% mag slaughter rapier is the only one that is useful. I'd go with that one.
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May 18 2019, 16:15
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(wowareyoukidding @ May 18 2019, 08:51)  Got my first legendary at lvl 200~, but it's a Wakizashi. Does this look like something worth grinding potency for?
Well, that depends, i guess you want to use it, but what style do you play? This seems like an okay off-hand weapon for DW, but most mag of slaughter weapons would have better damage, so this wouldnt be the best choice if you play 1H.
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May 18 2019, 17:30
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tox01
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 567
Joined: 16-April 09

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QUOTE(mangafans1 @ May 18 2019, 12:56)  Magnificent Willow Staff of DestructionSoulbound, IW 9, forged 5, Mag ranges: MDB 3%, Int 9%, Wis 69%, Depr Prof 65%, CR 66%, Burden 24% Exquisite Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction255, Exq ranges: MDB 57%, Int 92%, Wis 98%, Wind EDB 60%, Elem Prof 60%, Depr Prof 77%, CR 72%, Burden 10% If you play Wind... Exquisite one because it has potential. And if you can survive in it's Item World. And/or credits to buy-back staff. To make it viable you need to get Penetrator potency on (Penetrator 3-5). - Send it to free Item World services in WTS forum (check if they accept Exquisite). - If it gets Penetrator 3+ - use it. - Otherwise Salvage it and buy back from the shop (buyback price should be around 25k). It'll become Untradeable. - Run Item World yourself. If it got 1 potency - run IW untill 2nd potency unlocks to see if it's Penetrator. If it got 2 potencies without any Penetrator - it's better to salvage and buy-back. If it got 3 potencies without any Penetrator - salvage and buy-back. - Repeat until you get Penetrator 3+ potency. - Forge to 5 and use until you find something better. If you can't do IW yourself, do free IW service anyway - maybe you'll get lucky. This post has been edited by tox01: May 18 2019, 18:36
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May 18 2019, 17:57
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uareader
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 5,594
Joined: 1-September 14

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Finally miraculously managed to get a proper level up message at the end of a fight (instead of leveling up at the beginning with no report). But despite reaching level 430, didn't see a message about getting a Mastery point.
I think a long time ago, when it was still normal to level up only after a fight, there was such a message.Is that a lost feature too?
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May 18 2019, 17:58
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,434
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(uareader @ May 18 2019, 17:57)  Finally miraculously managed to get a proper level up message at the end of a fight (instead of leveling up at the beginning with no report). But despite reaching level 430, didn't see a message about getting a Mastery point.
I think a long time ago, when it was still normal to level up only after a fight, there was such a message.Is that a lost feature too?
really hard to tell, as most players use monsterbation to speed through the messages. So your observation is pretty unique, it may be all we have. Based on that, it's a lost feature apparently.
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May 18 2019, 18:41
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wowareyoukidding
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 18 2019, 16:15)  Well, that depends, i guess you want to use it, but what style do you play? This seems like an okay off-hand weapon for DW, but most mag of slaughter weapons would have better damage, so this wouldnt be the best choice if you play 1H.
Alright, as long as it has some use later on! Right now I'm just using 1H since the wiki said 1H was good in the 200+ range, but DW isn't out of the picture for later. Thanks.
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May 18 2019, 19:01
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(wowareyoukidding @ May 18 2019, 18:41)  Alright, as long as it has some use later on!
Well, when i did call it okay, that was just ment for your actual level, later on you will have not really a problem to find a much better one. It has low damage, average parry, low dex and so on, the only two things that are actually good about it, is agi and its low level, except that, there is really nothing special about it. QUOTE(wowareyoukidding @ May 18 2019, 18:41)  Right now I'm just using 1H since the wiki said 1H was good in the 200+ range, but DW isn't out of the picture for later.
Yeah, wiki does say a lot of things and imo in the 200+ range you can except mage play whatever you want, because it does not matter much. So you should play what you have fun with, not what someone did wrote in the wiki you should. Except mage, that is really something you should just start later. 1500th post from uncle in the experts topic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I am really proud about that. And to celebrate that, i will sent you a little give after it did finish the arena. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: May 18 2019, 19:03
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May 18 2019, 22:05
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wowareyoukidding
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 18 2019, 19:01)  Yeah, wiki does say a lot of things and imo in the 200+ range you can except mage play whatever you want, because it does not matter much. So you should play what you have fun with, not what someone did wrote in the wiki you should. Except mage, that is really something you should just start later. 1500th post from uncle in the experts topic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I am really proud about that. And to celebrate that, i will sent you a little give after it did finish the arena. Okay! I'll check out the other styles earlier then to break things up a little. Congrats on your landmark and thanks for the goodies. ( ノ^ω^)ノ゚
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May 18 2019, 23:42
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Drksrpnt
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 3,551
Joined: 27-December 10

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Is it just me or do forge upgrades not scale by level? Specifically melee ADB.
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May 19 2019, 00:59
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(wowareyoukidding @ May 18 2019, 22:05)  Congrats on your landmark and thanks for the goodies. ( ノ^ω^)ノ゚
Thanks and you are welcome. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 18 2019, 23:42)  Is it just me or do forge upgrades not scale by level? Specifically melee ADB.
Well, lower upgrades give a higher bonus as the later ones, so tbh i dont understand why the tool tip does talk about +1%.
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May 19 2019, 01:31
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Drksrpnt
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-December 10

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 18 2019, 18:59)  Well, lower upgrades give a higher bonus as the later ones, so tbh i dont understand why the tool tip does talk about +1%.
No I mean, when you level up, the forge upgrades don't level up with you.
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May 19 2019, 02:12
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Oh, that, well i would say because it cant, i mean you allready start of with possible upgrades, so it is just not possible for every level to give you an additional upgrade possibility.
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May 19 2019, 03:16
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Drksrpnt
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-December 10

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 18 2019, 20:12)  Oh, that, well i would say because it cant, i mean you allready start of with possible upgrades, so it is just not possible for every level to give you an additional upgrade possibility.
You're misunderstanding. Basically, I forge my weapons/armor with binding of slaughter, right? So my damage goes up. When I level up my actual HV level, the amount my damage goes up when I level up is very minimal in comparison to the forge upgrade. Like when I leveled up from 491 to 492, my ADB only went up 18(I think). That doesn't seem right, does it? This post has been edited by Drksrpnt: May 19 2019, 03:18
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May 19 2019, 03:28
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 19 2019, 03:16)  You're misunderstanding.
Hm, and even the second time. Well, all good things come in threes. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 19 2019, 03:16)  Basically, I forge my weapons/armor with binding of slaughter, right? So my damage goes up.
Well wouldnt that be a waste of credits if that wasnt the fact? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 19 2019, 03:16)  When I level up my actual HV level, the amount my damage goes up when I level up is very minimal in comparison to the forge upgrade.
Like when I leveled up from 491 to 492, my ADB only went up 18(I think). That doesn't seem right, does it?
So, do you just dont like the amount of ADB you get from a level up, compared to an actual upgrade from the forge? Or do you think there is something wrong with the numbers? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Because it looks about right to me, even when my last level up has been a while. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: May 19 2019, 03:29
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May 19 2019, 03:34
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Drksrpnt
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 3,551
Joined: 27-December 10

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 18 2019, 21:28)  So, do you just dont like the amount of ADB you get from a level up, compared to an actual upgrade from the forge? Or do you think there is something wrong with the numbers? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Because it looks about right to me, even when my last level up has been a while. Well it's a bit of both. I mostly feel like there's something wrong with the numbers.
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