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post May 16 2019, 06:52
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QUOTE(oakexe @ May 15 2019, 23:48) *

Is Overpower potency on 1H weapon useless due to it overlaps with Overwhelming Strikes?

Also which one should I prioritize?
Butcher>Fatality>Overpower=Swift Strike?


For 1H/shield: Fatality/Butcher are about even, some people prefer one or the other. Swift Strike is bad, Overpower is okay.

Personally I would rather have Butcher than Fatality on a 1H/shield weapon, but 4/5 of either one is just fine.
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post May 16 2019, 07:37
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I use Live Percentile Ranges,I find some percentile ranges look like -number%,what's
mean of it?(some number is even greater than 100)
And my percentile ranges also have a little difference from the shop write.
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post May 16 2019, 07:52
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ May 14 2019, 16:08) *

Define "best".
1h give safety but it's astonishingly slow.
mage is blazing fast compared to 1h, but astonishingly risky.

some have 1h and mage set as their mage set can't do high round PF IW/grindfest, so they fall to 1h as it's cheap and easy to play. so mage for arena and low round/difficulty IW, while 1h for PF IW and grindfest.
or they simply too cheap to consume mana potion that they are willing to spend twice the time to clear stuff.



thanks for the reply

i now understand i need to find a one hand set for doing IW my mage is weak clear Itemworld is really hard

another question for item world

is there difference between then itemworld normal item and peerless item ?

peerless itemworld = more drops and more EXP but normal item is lesser drop and EXP ?
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post May 16 2019, 07:52
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QUOTE(hi@world @ May 16 2019, 05:37) *

I use Live Percentile Ranges,I find some percentile ranges look like -number%,what's
mean of it?(some number is even greater than 100)
And my percentile ranges also have a little difference from the shop write.
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You're asking the meaning of percentages being outside of 0-100%?
Here's the answer: Superlatanium is ignoring all our requests for him to actually make use of the equipment database, so that the ranges get updated.
In other words, we've scanned plenty of equipments that are outside of the ranges recorded in his script.

I'll seriously make an update of his script myself if he doesn't do anything soon.
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post May 16 2019, 08:05
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QUOTE(mangafans1 @ May 16 2019, 06:52) *

another question for item world

is there difference between then itemworld normal item and peerless item ?

peerless itemworld = more drops and more EXP but normal item is lesser drop and EXP ?


The item quality affects the exp modifier (up to 1.2x, according to the wiki) but not the drops. Another factor you'll notice is the amount of rounds, which isn't strictly tied to the quality but can be approximated from its pxp requirement to go from level 0 to 1 (something like ~377 for 100 rounds). You'll notice leather tends to have higher pxp0, because it has 4 PABs, so you can fairly reliably get 100 rounds on legendary leather items. Allegedly, item quality also affects the monster difficulty.
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post May 16 2019, 10:44
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Juggernaut plus elemental mitigation for a legendary cloth. How much for it now? You know the price in the market, the people who charge for that service. Anyone knows? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post May 16 2019, 13:07
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ May 16 2019, 10:44) *

so, you guys just uh....grind 700 rounds...

over and over and over?


some grind 75-100 round IW over and over and over (explaining those free IW service)
some grind 1000 round GF over and over and over
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post May 16 2019, 13:17
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QUOTE(crazy3d @ May 16 2019, 09:44) *

Juggernaut plus elemental mitigation for a legendary cloth. How much for it now? You know the price in the market, the people who charge for that service. Anyone knows? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


It varies. Check out kadokura's shop and look at the IW service logs, where you can see what it cost for various requirements. From a very brief run through, I'd estimate ~500k-1mil for J5/any5, but with luck it can be less
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post May 16 2019, 17:57
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Are there strategies apart from protection + regen/heal + bash to death? I've done that for 100 levels and I don't think I'm learning anything new. At least the higher difficulties give a ton of exp so it didn't take that long
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post May 16 2019, 18:02
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Are there strategies apart from protection + regen/heal + bash to death?
Well, what style are you talking about?
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post May 17 2019, 04:21
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QUOTE(lestion @ May 16 2019, 08:05) *

The item quality affects the exp modifier (up to 1.2x, according to the wiki) but not the drops. Another factor you'll notice is the amount of rounds, which isn't strictly tied to the quality but can be approximated from its pxp requirement to go from level 0 to 1 (something like ~377 for 100 rounds). You'll notice leather tends to have higher pxp0, because it has 4 PABs, so you can fairly reliably get 100 rounds on legendary leather items. Allegedly, item quality also affects the monster difficulty.



thanks for sharing this experience

i understood so i need to find a good item pxp more than 377 for grind IW
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post May 17 2019, 08:09
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i understood so i need to find a good item pxp more than 377 for grind IW

Huh? If I remember correctly your initial problem is your equipment cannot support you at later rounds of IW. IW-ing high PXP equipment will exacerbate the problem, as it would have more rounds to clear. Doing IW while equipping high PXP equipment has no effect on IW difficulty. (well, higher PXP equipment of same category is usually better than lower ones, but that's not the point).

Grinding IW as we understand it is trying to get 1.2x EXP modifier to gain, other than EXP itself, proficiency. Arenas offer better EXP multiplier. Try to do Arenas at highest difficulty first. Grinding IW is only make sense if you've done all Arenas for the day. I even think Grindfest offers better reward than IW grind.
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post May 17 2019, 09:15
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QUOTE(feathered @ May 17 2019, 08:09) *

Grinding IW as we understand it is trying to get 1.2x EXP modifier to gain, other than EXP itself, proficiency. Arenas offer better EXP multiplier. Try to do Arenas at highest difficulty first. Grinding IW is only make sense if you've done all Arenas for the day. I even think Grindfest offers better reward than IW grind.


not all arenas give better EXP though. My Peerless Leather breastplate and Peerless shade breastplate both have PXP 393, and only the 150 round, 80 round and 100 round arena's give more EXP per stamina. They are on par with the 90 round arena, and even better than the 110 round arena.

The leather is soulfused from lottery, but it gives even more exp than the shade.

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post May 17 2019, 10:11
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QUOTE(feathered @ May 17 2019, 07:09) *

Huh? If I remember correctly your initial problem is your equipment cannot support you at later rounds of IW. IW-ing high PXP equipment will exacerbate the problem, as it would have more rounds to clear. Doing IW while equipping high PXP equipment has no effect on IW difficulty. (well, higher PXP equipment of same category is usually better than lower ones, but that's not the point).

Grinding IW as we understand it is trying to get 1.2x EXP modifier to gain, other than EXP itself, proficiency. Arenas offer better EXP multiplier. Try to do Arenas at highest difficulty first. Grinding IW is only make sense if you've done all Arenas for the day. I even think Grindfest offers better reward than IW grind.


That depends on what your goal for grinding is... if it's exp alone, then like Noni says, you have to factor in the quality (peerless gets a higher mod than legendary), and at legendary quality, a 100 round IW is slightly better than the arenas with rounds 75 or lower (and the 125 round one, too). It's only marginally better than grindfest, even.

That said, there are those who would argue every single arena is worth doing for the clear bonuses (helps accumulate valuable chaos tokens), and if your concern is profitability alone, then depending on your crystarium perk level, grindfest becomes stronger than the others.

... in other words, for most players, balance is everything. Clear your arenas and REs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 18 2019, 06:36
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thanks all of the experts kind advices (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 18 2019, 08:51
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Got my first legendary at lvl 200~, but it's a Wakizashi. Does this look like something worth grinding potency for?
Legendary Ethereal Wakizashi of the Nimble
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post May 18 2019, 12:56
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which one i should choose ?

newbie cant distinguish which one is better please help

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i know both staff is too weak to use but it‘s all i have both them from The Shrine

meg one is what i am using for a while

Magnificent Willow Staff of Destruction
Soulbound, IW 9, forged 5, Mag ranges: MDB 3%, Int 9%, Wis 69%, Depr Prof 65%, CR 66%, Burden 24%

Exquisite Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction
255, Exq ranges: MDB 57%, Int 92%, Wis 98%, Wind EDB 60%, Elem Prof 60%, Depr Prof 77%, CR 72%, Burden 10%

also for a one hand IW only set which one is better ?

Magnificent Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter
254, Mag ranges: ADB 30%, Parry 89%, Str 54%, Dex 74%

Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Balance
254, Mag ranges: ADB 62%, Parry 35%, Str 37%, Agi 48%



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post May 18 2019, 15:50
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QUOTE(mangafans1 @ May 18 2019, 12:56) *

which one i should choose ?

newbie cant distinguish which one is better please help

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i know both staff is too weak to use but it‘s all i have both them from The Shrine

meg one is what i am using for a while

Magnificent Willow Staff of Destruction
Soulbound, IW 9, forged 5, Mag ranges: MDB 3%, Int 9%, Wis 69%, Depr Prof 65%, CR 66%, Burden 24%

Exquisite Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction
255, Exq ranges: MDB 57%, Int 92%, Wis 98%, Wind EDB 60%, Elem Prof 60%, Depr Prof 77%, CR 72%, Burden 10%

also for a one hand IW only set which one is better ?

Magnificent Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter
254, Mag ranges: ADB 30%, Parry 89%, Str 54%, Dex 74%

Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Balance
254, Mag ranges: ADB 62%, Parry 35%, Str 37%, Agi 48%


mag slaughter rapier is the only one that is useful. I'd go with that one.
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post May 18 2019, 16:15
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QUOTE(wowareyoukidding @ May 18 2019, 08:51) *

Got my first legendary at lvl 200~, but it's a Wakizashi. Does this look like something worth grinding potency for?

Well, that depends, i guess you want to use it, but what style do you play? This seems like an okay off-hand weapon for DW, but most mag of slaughter weapons would have better damage, so this wouldnt be the best choice if you play 1H.
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post May 18 2019, 17:30
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QUOTE(mangafans1 @ May 18 2019, 12:56) *

Magnificent Willow Staff of Destruction
Soulbound, IW 9, forged 5, Mag ranges: MDB 3%, Int 9%, Wis 69%, Depr Prof 65%, CR 66%, Burden 24%

Exquisite Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction
255, Exq ranges: MDB 57%, Int 92%, Wis 98%, Wind EDB 60%, Elem Prof 60%, Depr Prof 77%, CR 72%, Burden 10%


If you play Wind... Exquisite one because it has potential.
And if you can survive in it's Item World. And/or credits to buy-back staff.

To make it viable you need to get Penetrator potency on (Penetrator 3-5).


- Send it to free Item World services in WTS forum (check if they accept Exquisite).
- If it gets Penetrator 3+ - use it.
- Otherwise Salvage it and buy back from the shop (buyback price should be around 25k). It'll become Untradeable.
- Run Item World yourself.
If it got 1 potency - run IW untill 2nd potency unlocks to see if it's Penetrator.
If it got 2 potencies without any Penetrator - it's better to salvage and buy-back.
If it got 3 potencies without any Penetrator - salvage and buy-back.
- Repeat until you get Penetrator 3+ potency.
- Forge to 5 and use until you find something better.

If you can't do IW yourself, do free IW service anyway - maybe you'll get lucky.

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