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May 14 2019, 14:11
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SPoison
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So I decided to shrine 21 figurines. I was looking at wts and seems the third lowest is 22k each (lowest being 15k with none and second being 20k with almost none) so assuming that price I would have gotten 462k for a set.
What I got was 7 HGM, 7 HGC, 2 HGW, and 12 HGL. Metal and leather are cheap, so ignoring them. Valuing HGC at 13k and HGW at 5k, I have 101k in HG materials.
For bindings I got 2 Slaughter, 1 Desturction, 1 Proection, 1 Fleet, 1 Ox, 1 Owl, 1 Wind-waker, 1 Negation, 3 Elementalist, 2 Mjolnir, 1 Frost-born, 1 Thrice blessed, 1 Stoneskin, 1 Earth-walker, 1 Demon-fiend, 2 Heaven-sent. The first 6 seem to be worth something, adding them up with the average shop price comes out to about 330.
TL;DR:So I ignored the cheap HG mats and cheap bindings and came to 432k. Seeing as I have 2 slaughters luck was huge in keeping close to the sale price (462k) of the figurines. Since I like to gamble this seems fine but yeah, they sell worth more when sold than when shrined.
This post has been edited by SPoison: May 14 2019, 14:12
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May 14 2019, 14:57
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ForsakenBruno
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QUOTE I don't quite remember when I started playing at IW. I started playing at PF exclusively at 310, so maybe 250(?). Have you unlocked Spark of Life and later Spirit Shield. You'll have easier time surviving once you've unlocked Spirit Shield.
I don't think Spirit shield will worth before 265, when i was leveling i didn't even realize what this skill whas for because it was difficult to activate.
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May 14 2019, 15:39
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magiclamp
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ May 14 2019, 04:03)  That ability is pretty much not worth it unless you grind and grind and grind and even then it takes ages to pay off.
Only buy it if you have NOTHING else to buy and lots of spare credits AND if you're just doing it for completion's sake.
Huh? Isn't Arch one of the trainings that have the shortest payback periods? That being said, I've left it at 8/10 for now myself XD
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May 14 2019, 16:08
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(bunnylover @ May 14 2019, 14:31)  I'm currently at lv 175 by the time of this post, stuck on nintendo difficulty, what level is recommended to for me switch to IWBTH?
the only answer people could give are ballpark estimates as equipments and soulfusing give wide differences in this game. but with soulfused exquisites/magnificent equipments you should be able to comfortably play PF RE using 1h-light around lvl 200. low level PF arena around 250, around this point 1h-heavy might be a better choice since you'll have enough block that losing the evade won't kill you instantly. on level 300 you should be able to do non SG arenas on PF, SG arenas is possible around that level but would take lots of time to clear. that's, once again, just a ballpark average to worst case estimates of 1h playstyle. if you play non-1h, then the answer might need to also consider your forging level, etc. QUOTE(mangafans1 @ May 14 2019, 17:41)  what style is best way to clear Nintendo / IWBTH / PFUDOR Grindfest ? --- i saw some top player has one hand set and mage gears so i want to know about it
Define "best". 1h give safety but it's astonishingly slow. mage is blazing fast compared to 1h, but astonishingly risky. some have 1h and mage set as their mage set can't do high round PF IW/grindfest, so they fall to 1h as it's cheap and easy to play. so mage for arena and low round/difficulty IW, while 1h for PF IW and grindfest. or they simply too cheap to consume mana potion that they are willing to spend twice the time to clear stuff. This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: May 14 2019, 16:15
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May 14 2019, 17:24
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(SPoison @ May 14 2019, 14:11)  Since I like to gamble this seems fine but yeah, they sell worth more when sold than when shrined.
If you really like to gamble I can provide ~70 figurines @19k to test your luck. Let me know if you're interested (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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May 14 2019, 20:45
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ May 14 2019, 15:24)  If you really like to gamble I can provide ~70 figurines @19k to test your luck. Let me know if you're interested (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Not that I'd mind too much if someone fancies wasting figurines because why not, but my stocks to help newbies completing their OFC set are starting to run low and I'd like to make a better use of those ones.
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May 14 2019, 22:31
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 14 2019, 20:45)  Not that I'd mind too much if someone fancies wasting figurines because why not, but my stocks to help newbies completing their OFC set are starting to run low and I'd like to make a better use of those ones.
I didn't see you were buying @21k (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) If you let me know how much is FULL (unless you want as many as I can send) I'll send them @19k. Edit: Sent everything, hope to see many happy OFC users in the future. This post has been edited by Sapo84: May 15 2019, 00:09
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May 15 2019, 06:07
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oakexe
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Hi experts I'd like to ask some questions again after I learn a little bit on how to tell if the gear is good or bad. 1. I'm currently playing 1H-heavy power at level 200ish Which one of these 1H I should soulfuse to me, and could you please provide me your insight on why do you prefer that one over the other https://hentaiverse.org/equip/186267959/c618efe9d8https://hentaiverse.org/equip/193449846/20f768928a2. Is it a bad idea to soulfuse shield? I have this shield that I am planning to soulfuse it after my first weapon but I noticed that the scaling between each level of shield is pretty low https://hentaiverse.org/equip/193284935/d22f998496or is it better to soulfuse a good power armor instead like https://hentaiverse.org/equip/193431656/f2877fba793. Also, at which point should I start incorporating imperil into my gameplay? Atm I'm trying to keep up my spark, haste, shadowveil, protection, regen and heartseeker when I'm playing on IWBTH in low level arena and nintendo in high level arena.
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May 15 2019, 06:28
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(oakexe @ May 15 2019, 06:07)  Which one of these 1H I should soulfuse to me, and could you please provide me your insight on why do you prefer that one over the other
Easy, the rapier, its a rapier, its mag and has the better element. QUOTE(oakexe @ May 15 2019, 06:07)  2. Is it a bad idea to soulfuse shield?
Why should it? In the end you want to have a full soulfused set, it is not practical nor a good idea to switch you equipment every few levels after you did start with mags. QUOTE(oakexe @ May 15 2019, 06:07)  I have this shield that I am planning to soulfuse it after my first weapon but I noticed that the scaling between each level of shield is pretty low
I am not sure what you mean by scaling or each level of shield, but even when i doubt you will find a better exq force shield, at least block whise, i am not sure it is actually a good idea to soulfuse exq equipment. Hm, so i would say do it when you dont see yourself getting a mag shield with better block anytime soon. QUOTE(oakexe @ May 15 2019, 06:07)  or is it better to soulfuse a good power armor instead like
Imo when you start, do it with weapon and shield as 1H. Weapon for damage, shield for block. And no, you should really not soulfuse superior equipment and you should not use of slaughter power armor at your level. Not until you did reach the point when you allready can play all Arenas on PFUDOR, before this it just doesnt make any sense to use slaughter, QUOTE(oakexe @ May 15 2019, 06:07)  3. Also, at which point should I start incorporating imperil into my gameplay?
Imo when you start to play the SG arenas, or for RE maybe, otherwhise it makes imo not much sense to use imperil on a regular basis while playing as 1H. I mean okay, you can just use it now and then to get some prof and increase by that a bit the counter resistence, but except that? Nope, i cant see it. QUOTE(oakexe @ May 15 2019, 06:07)  Atm I'm trying to keep up my spark, haste, shadowveil, protection, regen and heartseeker when I'm playing on IWBTH in low level arena and nintendo in high level arena.
Just remember to no longer use haste and shadow veil when you did reach the point that you can survive without them. And this is something i just dont understand. You need haste and shadow veil to survive because your parry, block and mitigations are too weak to keep you alive, but you still think it is a good idea to use a power armor of slaughter? Reaching the point when you no longer need haste and shadow veil would increase your clear speed overall much more, as even a whole of slaughter set you could get atm ever could.
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May 15 2019, 06:45
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oakexe
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Thanks man for the info Uncle Stu! I'll keep in mind about the buff and armor stuff.
Btw is the reason wind element is better is due to most monster has low resistance from wind element?
Also is there a tier list for element that I don't know of?
This post has been edited by oakexe: May 15 2019, 07:11
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May 15 2019, 06:54
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(oakexe @ May 15 2019, 06:45)  Btw is the reason wind element is better is due to most monster has low resistance from wind element?
Also is there a tier list for element that I don't know of?
Yeah, there is and fire is usual on the buttom of that list, wind is something in the middle or so, while holy and dark are usual on the top. Mostly because the SG are weak against it. It is more or less the same order as for prefered elements of mages, there are not many fire mages outthere while holy mage is the best but also the most expensive of course.
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May 15 2019, 09:07
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feathered
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QUOTE(oakexe @ May 15 2019, 06:07)  -snip-
I practically agree to all Uncle's point, here's additional note to consider. First: Your rapier is a 2 PAB one. You'd want your rapier to be 3 PAB to even worth consideration. Same is true for your other piece. That said, it's more of knowledge of what criteria a good equipment must have. Power Armor, for instance, will offer more survivability if they're 3 PAB, more valuable if their adb bonus is higher, so on and so forth. It's important because at first, your soul fragment stock will be limited. At my level, I only soulfused a total of three equipments so far and I have no soul fragment left. Second: SG took too much turn to kill that's why casting imperil on them is a second nature. But it's not wrong to imperil other mobs. On top of killing them faster, it allow you to grind Deprecating Magic proficiency. Higher proficiency means higher chance the spell land. Not resisted. You just need one cast per round to reap the proficiency gain. Level 225, I agree, is good place to start grinding it. Not too early (because it catch up fast) and not too late (because it's frustrating to suffer 4 resisted imperil in a row)
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May 15 2019, 09:16
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(feathered @ May 15 2019, 09:07)  First: Your rapier is a 2 PAB one. You'd want your rapier to be 3 PAB to even worth consideration.
True, but there are mags without element out there, so i think he can allready feel lucky to have even that 2 PAB element Rapier. So, imo element beats 3 PAB. And of course the best would be Mag Element and 3 PAB, but that could take him some time.
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May 15 2019, 12:22
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Fudo Masamune
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I agree that it don't have to be 3 PAB for mag slaughter rapier to worth consideration. But I disagree that merely 2PAB + element is enough. I'll agree if those 2 pabs are str and dex, but I'm a bit reluctant if it have no str or dex.
His rapier, in this case, actually pretty good ADB/parry wise. but losing dex would meant losing some attack and parry. even considering mid percentile dex for magnificent, at around his level I believe it could be about 35-ish dex. That's about 1.4% parry chance formula and 0.7% counter attack chance, a noticeable number enough for low level.
about should he soulfuse his rapier/shortsword, I think it's better if he wait... he couldn't soulfuse it yet anyway, big chance something better shows up cheap.
This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: May 15 2019, 12:27
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May 15 2019, 15:10
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oakexe
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Thanks for the input guys. I'll keep that in mind then.
My goal of me soulfusing that rapier is to have decent enough weapon to get pass to high level without having to worry about getting new weapon for a big while. I didn't expect my first soulfused weapon to be best in slot anyway since imo, the point of soulfusing is to have gear that is decent enough to use for a long time. RNG can be cruel and I don't want to keep hoping I'd get something better.
Thanks again for your insights guys.
This post has been edited by oakexe: May 15 2019, 15:10
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May 15 2019, 15:44
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(oakexe @ May 15 2019, 15:10)  RNG can be cruel and I don't want to keep hoping I'd get something better.
And this is the reason why i did call you lucky to even have that rapier. With level 400+ it is quite easy to forget how hard it can be for those way below 400 to get good equipment. And the imo most important thing about soulfusing at his level he does, just fuse something you propably wont change anytime soon and he plan to use that rapier for a long time, when he gets something better, well i am sure he will replace it when he can, but until that i think his rapier is fine, i did use a quite similiar one somewhere around level 300 and i was happy with it. Okay there was no soulfusing back then, but still. Sometimes we just want to have something, even when that does come with a sacrifice. When i first started to want a full savage set, i did even buy an armor piece with 2% MM, which is as everyone should know how i play wasnt so easy to swallow. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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May 16 2019, 03:21
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yami_zetsu
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can anyone remind me how many grindfests i'd need to play in order for Crystarium V to pay off
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May 16 2019, 04:52
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Nezu
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ May 16 2019, 02:21)  can anyone remind me how many grindfests i'd need to play in order for Crystarium V to pay off
Based on my own numbers... I get a base rate of roughly an average of 7.2 crystals per round - but I flee around round 700ish where I'm spending more time healing than fighting. I'd assume the average to go up to maybe 10 if you do full fests... so the difference between IV and V would be an extra 30k crystals per fest, about 2.5 crystal packs assuming even distribution in the long run, and those are what, 20k a pack now? Possibly less? 4k hath is ~16mil, so you'd need 800 packs, which would take you 320 full grindfests... that's actually not too bad, honestly. Sooner if my numbers are estimating too low. This post has been edited by lestion: May 16 2019, 04:53
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May 16 2019, 05:44
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Nightwishman
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so, you guys just uh....grind 700 rounds...
over and over and over?
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May 16 2019, 05:48
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oakexe
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Is Overpower potency on 1H weapon useless due to it overlaps with Overwhelming Strikes?
Also which one should I prioritize? Butcher>Fatality>Overpower=Swift Strike?
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