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post May 5 2019, 18:08
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Actually, even 1H does benefit from Overpower...
I certainly prefer having higher chances to actually land my blows than having an overly ridiculously low buff to my damage output.
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post May 5 2019, 19:23
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ May 5 2019, 18:03) *

What is the ideal IW for a 2h mace?

OP5 for sure. beyond that, it depends on your priorities. if you want the most mindless playstyle with the absolute minimum of cures or your armour set isn't very defensive, go for swift strike. if you have good defence and clear times are more important, go for butcher and/or fatality. which of those two is better depends on your gear, but there seems to be very little difference, so just go with what you can get or what sounds cooler
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post May 5 2019, 19:34
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QUOTE(sickentide @ May 5 2019, 19:23) *

your armour set isn't very defensive, go for swift strike.
So in general when you play 2H with Power ignore swift strike, if you play it with shade go for it? That i at least is what i would assume.
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post May 5 2019, 19:50
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 5 2019, 19:34) *

So in general when you play 2H with Power ignore swift strike, if you play it with shade go for it? That i at least is what i would assume.

i would say the deciding factor is overall quality of your armour and how much you forge it. with both shade and power you can reach a point where swift strike doesn't add much of value

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post May 5 2019, 20:10
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Yeah, but i would assume not only do you reach that point much faster with a power armor, you also dont benefit that much overall from it while wearing power armor and i would suggest to go for butcher instead.
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post May 5 2019, 20:13
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power armour does get less out of swift strike, but i would say that shade gets to a strong defensive state faster due to its high evade and resist and because its defence doesn't depend as much on proficiency
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post May 6 2019, 08:15
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Guess I'll aim for OP 5...and any combination of Fat/But.
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post May 7 2019, 02:49
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Beat DwD on PFUDOR, but....
It took forever (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Does it get faster if I do 2h instead of 1h/shield? Or Melee is just slow like that for DwD?

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post May 7 2019, 03:12
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Hey everyone, I've been silently playing this game for a while now, but the more advanced components of the game are a little tricky for me to grasp. I was hoping to get some advice on which of these two weapons I'm using would be better.

For the longest time I've been rocking an exquisite etherial axe of slaughter, but recently a magnificent hallowed axe of slaughter dropped for me that looked like it had a little better stats. The only difference is because it's not ethereal it has even more burden and interference behind it, BUT I swear I recall reading that after a certain threshold of burden and interference that adding any more doesn't hurt. So yeah, I'm basically wondering which of these two weapons is better and if I should save up to soulbind the new axe, thanks in advance for your time.

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post May 7 2019, 03:27
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QUOTE(Finestela @ May 6 2019, 20:49) *

Beat DwD on PFUDOR, but....
It took forever (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Does it get faster if I do 2h instead of 1h/shield? Or Melee is just slow like that for DwD?



What all equipment are you using? 11k turns seems like a lot even for your rank.
I'd recommend spending spare credits on either equips or some hath perks (Innate Arcana II/III is insanely useful).
Getting OFC can help you blitz through some rounds, as well as using Vital Strike on stunned monsters that have a ton of HP.

Just know that it gets better, it's only taking me 4600 turns/30-35 minutes with 1H currently.
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post May 7 2019, 03:31
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QUOTE(Finestela @ May 7 2019, 02:49) *

Beat DwD on PFUDOR, but....
Graz. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
QUOTE(Finestela @ May 7 2019, 02:49) *

It took forever (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
That is normal, but it gets better later with more damage.
QUOTE(Finestela @ May 7 2019, 02:49) *

Does it get faster if I do 2h instead of 1h/shield? Or Melee is just slow like that for DwD?
2H and faster in DwD? Ehm, i have my doubts about that.

QUOTE(Kidays @ May 7 2019, 03:12) *

Hey everyone,
Hey. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
QUOTE(Kidays @ May 7 2019, 03:12) *

I was hoping to get some advice on which of these two weapons I'm using would be better.
So you mean you play Dualwield aka DW?
QUOTE(Kidays @ May 7 2019, 03:12) *

BUT I swear I recall reading that after a certain threshold of burden and interference that adding any more doesn't hurt.
That is true.
QUOTE(Kidays @ May 7 2019, 03:12) *

So yeah, I'm basically wondering which of these two weapons is better and if I should save up to soulbind the new axe, thanks in advance for your time.
You know, it would be much easier for me to actually compare those weapons if you would show us the equipment link, just hoover with your mouse cursor above the equipment you want the link of, press C and copy paste the link you get. So far all i can actually tell you is that is best to finish the IW of equipment you use. Believe me the additional strike is worth it allready, even when the IW itself is not the best.
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post May 7 2019, 03:45
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QUOTE(Kross25 @ May 6 2019, 20:27) *

What all equipment are you using? 11k turns seems like a lot even for your rank.
I'd recommend spending spare credits on either equips or some hath perks (Innate Arcana II/III is insanely useful).
Getting OFC can help you blitz through some rounds, as well as using Vital Strike on stunned monsters that have a ton of HP.

Just know that it gets better, it's only taking me 4600 turns/30-35 minutes with 1H currently.


I'm waiting for my translation bounty to be finished so I'd have enough Hath for... stuff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

My equipment aren't much good, and a few needs upgrading... But haven't had much luck at Evil's auction except the helm.
Here they are:
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Shield (It's a rental, and my spare one in waiting is https://hentaiverse.org/equip/192203239/17a9606334)
Helm
Body (Yeah, this one needs replacing)
Gloves
Pants
Shoes (Oops)

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post May 7 2019, 03:55
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QUOTE(Finestela @ May 7 2019, 03:45) *

(Yeah, this one needs replacing)
No, sorry, but there are other pieces of your set that are worse, so replacing your body armor really shouldnt be your main piority.
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post May 7 2019, 04:05
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QUOTE(Finestela @ May 6 2019, 21:45) *

My equipment aren't much good, and a few needs upgrading... But haven't had much luck at Evil's auction except the helm.


Yea I'd definitely try to get some Mag+ armor and be on the lookout for stuff that's closer to your level. Boots are an 85lvl difference so I'd try to get a new pair ASAP.
Would be worth looking at other shops too, majority is level 400+ stuff, but you can find some nice stuff that's lower level as well.
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post May 7 2019, 04:13
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 6 2019, 21:31) *

Hey. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
So you mean you play Dualwield aka DW?
That is true.
You know, it would be much easier for me to actually compare those weapons if you would show us the equipment link, just hoover with your mouse cursor above the equipment you want the link of, press C and copy paste the link you get. So far all i can actually tell you is that is best to finish the IW of equipment you use. Believe me the additional strike is worth it allready, even when the IW itself is not the best.


Oh I meant I have two axes and want to know which is better, I've always been a shield user guy for that extra defense, I suppose I should give dual wielding a whirl with both axes though and see if I notice a difference. Really I'm just trying to figure out if I should drop my old axe (the soulbound one) and focus on the new one for a build where I'm just hiding behind my heavy armor and whacking the baddies in the face.

Here's the better links, sorry about that.
The old
The new

if the item world buffs are the deciding factor I can grind them out the next little while.

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post May 7 2019, 04:27
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QUOTE(Kidays @ May 7 2019, 04:13) *

Oh I meant I have two axes and want to know which is better, I've always been a shield user guy for that extra defense,
Oh, i see. But if you play 1H for defense, i suggest use something with parry bonus and not an axe.
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I suppose I should give dual wielding a whirl with both axes though and see if I notice a difference.
DW with two axes? No, dont do that. Never use an axe as off-hand. You could use it as main-hand, but when you do, you should use something with parry bonus as off-hand, with an axe i would even suggest something of Nimble, but never ever two axes.
QUOTE(Kidays @ May 7 2019, 04:13) *

Really I'm just trying to figure out if I should drop my old axe (the soulbound one) and focus on the new one for a build where I'm just hiding behind my heavy armor and whacking the baddies in the face.
Well, the new one is a little bit better, but i still would suggest something with parry.
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if the item world buffs are the deciding factor I can grind them out the next little while.
No, they are no deciding factor. But the additional strike at the end does actually buff your damage by quite a bit.
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post May 7 2019, 04:44
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QUOTE(Kidays @ May 7 2019, 04:13) *
Oh I meant I have two axes and want to know which is better, I've always been a shield user guy for that extra defense, I suppose I should give dual wielding a whirl with both axes though and see if I notice a difference. Really I'm just trying to figure out if I should drop my old axe (the soulbound one) and focus on the new one for a build where I'm just hiding behind my heavy armor and whacking the baddies in the face.

Here's the better links, sorry about that.
The old
The new

if the item world buffs are the deciding factor I can grind them out the next little while.

Currently your Exq Ethereal Axe is still better than your Mag Hallowed Axe. The difference in damage is imperceptible, so are their crit chance. However, if you successfully bring you Mag Hallowed to Level 10 IW, it would be markedly better.

But before you go deep with IW, let me tell you, Axes is kinda unwanted now. You can buy a legendary ones for cheap (careful not buy something too far from your level). Shortsword is more preferable, while rapier is even more so in 1H play style. Shortsword give parry, which help in improving chance for counter, while rapier give PA, which help kill thick Mobs a bit faster.


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QUOTE(Finestela @ May 7 2019, 02:49) *
Beat DwD on PFUDOR, but....
It took forever (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Does it get faster if I do 2h instead of 1h/shield? Or Melee is just slow like that for DwD?

Judging by your level, it must be your first time doing DwD. It's fine, you just haven't found your rhythm. With your equipments, I think you can push to 8k turns. With Legendary Rapier of Balance/Slaughter and Magnificent+ Power in 4 slots and OFC, you can push to 5k turns. From level 330 to 345, you can push for 4.5k turns. Lower than 4.5k turns will require forging or hath perk.
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post May 7 2019, 06:33
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QUOTE(Finestela @ May 6 2019, 20:49) *

Beat DwD on PFUDOR, but....
It took forever (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Does it get faster if I do 2h instead of 1h/shield? Or Melee is just slow like that for DwD?


Hmm, does anyone know what's a common average counters/turn at your level (300)? To me around 1 counter per 3 turns seems extremely low. Perhaps attempt getting a force shield, although I'm not sure how common / expensive they are at your level.

Fire strike is suboptimal but it shouldn't be the major reason that make it take that long.

Some of your gears are underleveled too, may consider replacing them if possible.
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post May 7 2019, 07:35
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ May 7 2019, 06:33) *
Hmm, does anyone know what's a common average counters/turn at your level (300)? To me around 1 counter per 3 turns seems extremely low. Perhaps attempt getting a force shield, although I'm not sure how common / expensive they are at your level.

I know how to play 1H and I was at 67% at level 303. It grows to 84% at my current level (353), much due to higher block and parry and a little bit of other factors.

Now that you direct my attention there, I found Finestela cast a lot of Banishment. I wonder why. Smite should be enough if what he wanted is Divine prof grinding.
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post May 7 2019, 17:43
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