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Apr 28 2019, 18:21
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 28 2019, 16:49)  Is there any holy mages that can consistently clear PFFEST without using gum and/or vase? I wonder if it'd be viable in deep pffest (900+ rounds) because by then the monsters hit so deadly.
Having heard Noni's having trouble clearing pffest with his non-imperil dark set, I'm beginning to doubt if non-imperil can handle pffest consistently...
sssss2 can. Check his sig, his gear is Beyond Awesome. And there are more like him, long time players that have collected near perfect sets over the years.
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Apr 29 2019, 04:08
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Deckard Cain
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 796
Joined: 29-August 07

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Tried putting my feet in the water for the whole convert-to-maging bit. I thought my goal was extremely modest and should be relatively easily attainable: I just want to be able to do clear IW and the Arenas on Normal, and maybe make it through 500 rounds or so in grindfest. Ideally I'd use a holy setup so I wouldn't have to imperil. Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of FocusLegendary Zircon Phase Cap of HeimdallLegendary Jade Cotton Robe of the Heaven-sentLegendary Amber Phase Gloves of HeimdallMagnificent Cobalt Phase Pants of HeimdallMagnificent Amber Phase Shoes of HeimdallI have some Legendary phase pants/shoes I'm also sitting on to soulfuse soon enough. The result of this setup was extremely disappointing - I'm unable to complete any of the arenas beyond Longest Journey (55-round one), I constantly have to juggle mana/health pots/draughts and survivability concerns. I know people say the transition isn't easy and playing mage isn't intended for being lazy, but to be frank I expected to be able to blast shit on Normal for fun with a legendary setup with minimal maintenance. Other info: I have IA3 and run Spark/Haste/SV with it, then I manually cast Regen/Protection/Arcane Focus. I don't bother with Spirit Shield since it never seems to actually absorb anything on Normal. Edit: I also have the VV health perk and DD1 So my questions: 1. Is my setup just insufficient? Is max forging a matching staff (LHOH) and a proficiency cloth the only way out? 2. In my monsterbation I'm generally afraid to touch anything, so I managed to get the hoveraction to be strongest T3/T2/T1 spells sequence, but I feel like I spend a ton of time manually casting cures / pots / draughts, and anytime channeling comes up it gets eaten by the hovering. Do others have a way that this is optimized? My turns/second are awful because of all the casting I have to do. 3. Is the problem just my expectations? I've seen some of the clear videos of people just blasting through stuff, and I realize that they're using close to peerless gear fully forged with gum/vase, but they're on PFUDOR I assume. Thanks for reading if you did! Gonna return to my 1H prison for a while longer : ) This post has been edited by ravenfrost123: Apr 29 2019, 05:42
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Apr 29 2019, 05:08
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magiclamp
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 802
Joined: 27-February 10

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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Apr 28 2019, 21:08) 
So my questions: 1. Is my setup just insufficient? Is max forging a matching staff (LHOH) and a proficiency cloth the only way out? 2. In my monsterbation I'm generally afraid to touch anything, so I managed to get the hoveraction to be strongest T3/T2/T1 spells sequence, but I feel like I spend a ton of time manually casting cures / pots / draughts, and anytime channeling comes up it gets eaten by the hovering. Do others have a way that this is optimized? My turns/second are awful because of all the casting I have to do. 3. Is the problem just my expectations? I've seen some of the clear videos of people just blasting through stuff, and I realize that they're using close to peerless gear fully forged with gum/vase, but they're on PFUDOR I assume.
Thanks for reading if you did! Gonna return to my 1H prison for a while longer : )
Is it due to proficiencies? I just tried it with elemental mage with 2 magnificents (and 4+1 which probably is worse than 3+2 for non-imperil) on the 60 round arena. No pots of either kind used and my health never dipped below 90% so no heal either. Have you tried swapping out one of your phases for a cotton? I was using a willow of destruction with pretty decent forging - I'll see if I can find a set of terrible unforged staff/cloths and try to see if it's just proficiencies and get back to you. Edit: Just tried with unforged Magnificent Tempestuous Willow Staff Of the Curse-weaver (so pretty much mismatched staff since I didn't imperil), a bit slower (almost 300 turns for the 55 rounds arena) but no issues with safety (didn't use health pots, had regen on, hp never dipped below 90%). Can you post your stats and ability set-ups? I feel like proficiency shouldn't make that much of a difference (though I think you would benefit from taking another cotton for now) so there might be some ability/stat distribution issues. This post has been edited by magiclamp: Apr 29 2019, 05:20
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Apr 29 2019, 05:36
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Deckard Cain
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 29-August 07

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QUOTE(magiclamp @ Apr 28 2019, 20:08)  Can you post your stats and ability set-ups? I feel like proficiency shouldn't make that much of a difference (though I think you would benefit from taking another cotton for now) so there might be some ability/stat distribution issues.
 My abilities are what you would expect (Max means max relative to my level) -General: Max HP/MP tank, better HP/MP pots -Staff: Max all -Cloth: Max all -Deprec 1: Max Imperil -Support 1: Max Haste/SV/Arcane Focus/Regen/Cure -Support 2: Max Spark/Protection/Storm Spike -Divine: Max all
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Apr 29 2019, 06:39
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Deckard Cain
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(magiclamp @ Apr 28 2019, 21:06)  That is really bizarre. I have no divine abilities and bought a 2k superior staff that's like 80 levels below me and still had absolutely no issues with the 70 rounds arena on normal (though did have to cure once and it was a lot slower than wind, likely due to bad equipment and no divine abilities).
Just to confirm - you are on Normal difficulty?
I've double and triple checked things like settings for this for sure. I'm not sure why survivability is such an issue for me still when the mobs start getting to 6+ per round. I'm assuming my mana issues are simply because holy eats mana real bad, but I still don't understand how the real players even sustain. In the longer arenas my mana consumption rate outpaces my mana gain rate and I'm scrambling by the end to buy turns for mana pot to recover and even attacking sometimes to proc ether theft. I didn't think most people use mana elixirs regularly, but that could solve it I think. Thank you for the trials and the responses though : ) . I'll try to find a cheap legendary heaven-sent cotton and do 3+2 instead of 4+1. I notice in your trial you had several cottons and the divine proficiency suffix on the staff.
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Apr 29 2019, 07:11
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magiclamp
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-February 10

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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Apr 28 2019, 23:39)  I've double and triple checked things like settings for this for sure. I'm not sure why survivability is such an issue for me still when the mobs start getting to 6+ per round.
I'm assuming my mana issues are simply because holy eats mana real bad, but I still don't understand how the real players even sustain. In the longer arenas my mana consumption rate outpaces my mana gain rate and I'm scrambling by the end to buy turns for mana pot to recover and even attacking sometimes to proc ether theft. I didn't think most people use mana elixirs regularly, but that could solve it I think.
Thank you for the trials and the responses though : ) . I'll try to find a cheap legendary heaven-sent cotton and do 3+2 instead of 4+1. I notice in your trial you had several cottons and the divine proficiency suffix on the staff.
I think mana sustain is proficiency driven - but if you are having to use mana elixirs, what I'd do is to turn off tier 3 in regular hover and just use tier 1 and 2. You can have the full rotation in shift-hover so you can use tier 3 at the beginning of the round for max efficiency.
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Apr 29 2019, 07:29
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Drksrpnt
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-December 10

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This might be a stupid question but do you have your abilities slotted? like, not just trained, but actually put in there for that persona?
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Apr 29 2019, 07:49
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Deckard Cain
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 796
Joined: 29-August 07

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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Apr 28 2019, 22:29)  This might be a stupid question but do you have your abilities slotted? like, not just trained, but actually put in there for that persona?
Yeah : ( I'm gonna tinker around with it a bit more but I was on the verge of giving it up the other day until I'm way better resourced.
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Apr 29 2019, 10:48
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vinwin
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 104
Joined: 30-March 16

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It seems the monsterbation scripts doesn't work well with hentaiverse dark and HV Statistics, Tracking, and Analysis Tool. How can I solve the conflict problems? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Apr 29 2019, 10:51
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-vincento-
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 30-August 17

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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Apr 29 2019, 10:08)  hehe
Your profs is too low. Most holy mages aim for 1.0 prof factor, but you only have 1.5. Even for low difficulties you need higher profs. Low-profs=low casting-speed+high mana consumption+more counter-resist(not a problem in low difficulty) Make sure you buy the prof perk and forge your profs. Even my dark and holy sets needs aether shards to prevent from using mana elixirs. Non-imp styles eat mana a lot. You also need to cure a lot more, the supportive prof perk is also very useful for holy only. You've chosen the non-imperil. Then you will have to pay for it. You need to cure more than imp styles do, drink more potions . That's way to go. I suppose you haven't get used to mage style yet, because all mages are just constantly healing. Sometimes I have to cure 3 times consecutively in late IW and PFDfest. Get your monsterbation well set and get used to constant consumables and healing. Drinking more potions and constant healing doesn't mean you cannot complete Arenas, unless all your healing, including potions, elixirs are in cool down.
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Apr 29 2019, 16:48
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Noeleo
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,433
Joined: 16-January 15

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 26 2019, 19:43)  And with the free points i would personally Dex 10 points above Str 10 points above End and End around 30 points above End. Hi Uncle. Sorry to bother you again. I was trying to set my stats just now when I noticed this. It's quite confusing. Can you make it into list form? Maybe like this? Str=xx Dex=xx End=xx You can set a stat's value as the reference. QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 26 2019, 22:52)  Some even just recommend 1:1:1:1:1:1. You mean all the stats have the same value? QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 26 2019, 22:55)  but i like that little bit more crit chance and parry you got from Dex My current play actually rely on this, I think. I always rely on my luck to get as many as possible monsters stunned after they attacked me so that I can focus on killing one monster at a time. And I saw somewhere recently saying that frost or storm spike shield is a good choice (mine is flame, I kinda regret spending my AP on it).
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Apr 29 2019, 16:55
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(Noeleo @ Apr 29 2019, 16:48)  Hi Uncle. Sorry to bother you again.
Hi. Please, dont be sorry, you dont bother me at all. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(Noeleo @ Apr 29 2019, 16:48)  I was trying to set my stats just now when I noticed this. It's quite confusing. Can you make it into list form? Maybe like this? Str=xx Dex=xx End=xx You can set a stat's value as the reference.
Oh, you want to see mine? Sure.  I know, but i really like Dex. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(Noeleo @ Apr 29 2019, 16:48)  My current play actually rely on this, I think. I always rely on my luck to get as many as possible monsters stunned after they attacked me so that I can focus on killing one monster at a time. And I saw somewhere recently saying that frost or storm spike shield is a good choice (mine is flame, I kinda regret spending my AP on it).
Why do you regret it? I use Flame and i love the reduced monster damage. But i guess that is something everyone has to decide for themself.
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Apr 29 2019, 17:32
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sickentide
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 1,355
Joined: 31-August 10

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QUOTE(Noeleo @ Apr 29 2019, 16:48)  You mean all the stats have the same value?
this is what i do, except with str/int down to 300 depending on style and one persona with reduced agi to limit attack speed. works for me, the idea is that lowering one stat to raise another gives poor returns very quickly, unless the lowered stat is useless and can be put way down
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Apr 29 2019, 20:01
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mustardpie
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Joined: 25-April 11

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How do I use OFC?
I have 21 figurines
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Apr 29 2019, 20:17
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,535
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(mustardpie @ Apr 29 2019, 20:01)  How do I use OFC?
I have 21 figurines
1. you wait for up to 24 hrs after getting the 21 ponies (all different!) 2. You build up overcharge to the max 3. you go to skills and blast OFC
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Apr 30 2019, 03:53
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feathered
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Joined: 1-October 18

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Hi dude, Is there a way to temporarily boost defense other than applying infusions on armor? How about temporary boost to physical defense?
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Apr 30 2019, 04:56
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tox01
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 567
Joined: 16-April 09

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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 30 2019, 03:53)  Hi dude, Is there a way to temporarily boost defense other than applying infusions on armor? How about temporary boost to physical defense?
You may try to use scroll(s). It provides higher bonus than a skill. If you're a 1H heavy melee it won't last long due to a low action speed. You may also try to use Shadow Veil and/or Haste. What are you currently using and when (in what situation) do you need a boost?..
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Apr 30 2019, 05:44
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feathered
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QUOTE(tox01 @ Apr 30 2019, 04:56)  You may try to use scroll(s). It provides higher bonus than a skill. If you're a 1H heavy melee it won't last long due to a low action speed. You may also try to use Shadow Veil and/or Haste. What are you currently using and when (in what situation) do you need a boost?..
I'm doing IW at PF. I need to activate Haste and Shadowveil around round 30. I can go on without them of course, but hitting cure every so often annoyed me. At least with those two spells, I can delay cure until around round 60-70. Doing 88-rounds IW usually sparked me 3 times. I rely on these old equipments. Bought several upgrade, but can't equip them before I get some SoulFrag. Leg Tempestous Rapier of Slaughter | Leg Force of WardingMag Helmet of Protection | Leg Armor of Protection | Mag Gauntlet of Balance | Mag Legging of Protection | Leg Boot of BalanceThis post has been edited by feathered: Apr 30 2019, 05:45
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