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Yeah - the lack of multipliers for dawn proficiency is why I think that some levels in adept learner actually is more cost-effective than higher-level assimilator for proficiency - it shifts exp distribution more towards the higher-proficiency multiplier battle exp compared to dawn exp.

... and majes you level up faster, which negates that positive effect.

Well for mage levelling faster isn't too much of a penalty, tho. Especially for elemental mages, since T3 coolddown is reduced at level 450. And mage dmg scales faster than monster health, too.

Well for mage levelling faster isn't too much of a penalty, tho. Especially for elemental mages, since T3 coolddown is reduced at level 450. And mage dmg scales faster than monster health, too.

Speaking of, how's your dark set coming along? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Any improvement on clear speeds so far?

Speaking of, how's your dark set coming along? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Any improvement on clear speeds so far?

Ah, yes! I'm getting 2k~2.1k turns on DwD right now. I can expect about 15% damage increase once I get to change my setting from 3+2 to 4+1, so once I get that done there will be a drastic improvement.

I just can't find a charged phase cap tho T_T I do have one in stock, but it's 15% and lv500, so hopefully I can find one with less level and higher edb...

What is the reasonable number for counter resist on mages? Is there any cap or you can stack it over 40% and it's still good?

This post has been edited by hubaha: Apr 28 2019, 15:22

Ah, yes! I'm getting 2k~2.1k turns on DwD right now. I can expect about 15% damage increase once I get to change my setting from 3+2 to 4+1, so once I get that done there will be a drastic improvement.

I just can't find a charged phase cap tho T_T I do have one in stock, but it's 15% and lv500, so hopefully I can find one with less level and higher edb...

Are you going full charged?

yep, going fully charged. I think that's the way to go for imperil style, especially so for dark since it's got slower casting speed.

Is there any holy mages that can consistently clear PFFEST without using gum and/or vase? I wonder if it'd be viable in deep pffest (900+ rounds) because by then the monsters hit so deadly.

Having heard Noni's having trouble clearing pffest with his non-imperil dark set, I'm beginning to doubt if non-imperil can handle pffest consistently...

Is there any holy mages that can consistently clear PFFEST without using gum and/or vase? I wonder if it'd be viable in deep pffest (900+ rounds) because by then the monsters hit so deadly.

Having heard Noni's having trouble clearing pffest with his non-imperil dark set, I'm beginning to doubt if non-imperil can handle pffest consistently...

Welp, I'm one more piece away from completing my holy set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I'll let you know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Is there any holy mages that can consistently clear PFFEST without using gum and/or vase? I wonder if it'd be viable in deep pffest (900+ rounds) because by then the monsters hit so deadly.

Having heard Noni's having trouble clearing pffest with his non-imperil dark set, I'm beginning to doubt if non-imperil can handle pffest consistently...

sssss2 can. Check his sig, his gear is Beyond Awesome. And there are more like him, long time players that have collected near perfect sets over the years.

Tried putting my feet in the water for the whole convert-to-maging bit. I thought my goal was extremely modest and should be relatively easily attainable: I just want to be able to do clear IW and the Arenas on Normal, and maybe make it through 500 rounds or so in grindfest. Ideally I'd use a holy setup so I wouldn't have to imperil.

Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus
Legendary Zircon Phase Cap of Heimdall
Legendary Jade Cotton Robe of the Heaven-sent
Legendary Amber Phase Gloves of Heimdall
Magnificent Cobalt Phase Pants of Heimdall
Magnificent Amber Phase Shoes of Heimdall

I have some Legendary phase pants/shoes I'm also sitting on to soulfuse soon enough. The result of this setup was extremely disappointing - I'm unable to complete any of the arenas beyond Longest Journey (55-round one), I constantly have to juggle mana/health pots/draughts and survivability concerns. I know people say the transition isn't easy and playing mage isn't intended for being lazy, but to be frank I expected to be able to blast shit on Normal for fun with a legendary setup with minimal maintenance.

Other info: I have IA3 and run Spark/Haste/SV with it, then I manually cast Regen/Protection/Arcane Focus. I don't bother with Spirit Shield since it never seems to actually absorb anything on Normal.
Edit: I also have the VV health perk and DD1

So my questions:
1. Is my setup just insufficient? Is max forging a matching staff (LHOH) and a proficiency cloth the only way out?
2. In my monsterbation I'm generally afraid to touch anything, so I managed to get the hoveraction to be strongest T3/T2/T1 spells sequence, but I feel like I spend a ton of time manually casting cures / pots / draughts, and anytime channeling comes up it gets eaten by the hovering. Do others have a way that this is optimized? My turns/second are awful because of all the casting I have to do.
3. Is the problem just my expectations? I've seen some of the clear videos of people just blasting through stuff, and I realize that they're using close to peerless gear fully forged with gum/vase, but they're on PFUDOR I assume.

Thanks for reading if you did! Gonna return to my 1H prison for a while longer : )

This post has been edited by ravenfrost123: Apr 29 2019, 05:42

So my questions:
1. Is my setup just insufficient? Is max forging a matching staff (LHOH) and a proficiency cloth the only way out?
2. In my monsterbation I'm generally afraid to touch anything, so I managed to get the hoveraction to be strongest T3/T2/T1 spells sequence, but I feel like I spend a ton of time manually casting cures / pots / draughts, and anytime channeling comes up it gets eaten by the hovering. Do others have a way that this is optimized? My turns/second are awful because of all the casting I have to do.
3. Is the problem just my expectations? I've seen some of the clear videos of people just blasting through stuff, and I realize that they're using close to peerless gear fully forged with gum/vase, but they're on PFUDOR I assume.

Thanks for reading if you did! Gonna return to my 1H prison for a while longer : )

Is it due to proficiencies? I just tried it with elemental mage with 2 magnificents (and 4+1 which probably is worse than 3+2 for non-imperil) on the 60 round arena. No pots of either kind used and my health never dipped below 90% so no heal either. Have you tried swapping out one of your phases for a cotton?

I was using a willow of destruction with pretty decent forging - I'll see if I can find a set of terrible unforged staff/cloths and try to see if it's just proficiencies and get back to you.

Edit:

Just tried with unforged Magnificent Tempestuous Willow Staff Of the Curse-weaver (so pretty much mismatched staff since I didn't imperil), a bit slower (almost 300 turns for the 55 rounds arena) but no issues with safety (didn't use health pots, had regen on, hp never dipped below 90%).

Can you post your stats and ability set-ups? I feel like proficiency shouldn't make that much of a difference (though I think you would benefit from taking another cotton for now) so there might be some ability/stat distribution issues.

This post has been edited by magiclamp: Apr 29 2019, 05:20

Can you post your stats and ability set-ups? I feel like proficiency shouldn't make that much of a difference (though I think you would benefit from taking another cotton for now) so there might be some ability/stat distribution issues.

My abilities are what you would expect (Max means max relative to my level)
-General: Max HP/MP tank, better HP/MP pots
-Staff: Max all
-Cloth: Max all
-Deprec 1: Max Imperil
-Support 1: Max Haste/SV/Arcane Focus/Regen/Cure
-Support 2: Max Spark/Protection/Storm Spike
-Divine: Max all

My abilities are what you would expect (Max means max relative to my level)
-General: Max HP/MP tank, better HP/MP pots
-Staff: Max all
-Cloth: Max all
-Deprec 1: Max Imperil
-Support 1: Max Haste/SV/Arcane Focus/Regen/Cure
-Support 2: Max Spark/Protection/Storm Spike
-Divine: Max all

That is really bizarre. I have no divine abilities and bought a 2k superior staff that's like 80 levels below me and still had absolutely no issues with the 70 rounds arena on normal (though did have to cure once and it was a lot slower than wind, likely due to bad equipment and no divine abilities).

Just to confirm - you are on Normal difficulty?

Equipment (all what I had in inventory other than the staff that I just bought for 2k):

Superior Hallowed Katalox Staff of The Heaven-sent
Legendary Charged Cotton Cap of the Heaven-sent
Legendary Zircon Phase Robe of Heimdall
Magnificent Ruby Cotton Gloves of the Heaven-sent
Magnificent Phase Shoes of Heimdall

Stats and Abilities:

That is really bizarre. I have no divine abilities and bought a 2k superior staff that's like 80 levels below me and still had absolutely no issues with the 70 rounds arena on normal (though did have to cure once and it was a lot slower than wind, likely due to bad equipment and no divine abilities).

Just to confirm - you are on Normal difficulty?

I've double and triple checked things like settings for this for sure. I'm not sure why survivability is such an issue for me still when the mobs start getting to 6+ per round.

I'm assuming my mana issues are simply because holy eats mana real bad, but I still don't understand how the real players even sustain. In the longer arenas my mana consumption rate outpaces my mana gain rate and I'm scrambling by the end to buy turns for mana pot to recover and even attacking sometimes to proc ether theft. I didn't think most people use mana elixirs regularly, but that could solve it I think.

Thank you for the trials and the responses though : ) . I'll try to find a cheap legendary heaven-sent cotton and do 3+2 instead of 4+1. I notice in your trial you had several cottons and the divine proficiency suffix on the staff.

I've double and triple checked things like settings for this for sure. I'm not sure why survivability is such an issue for me still when the mobs start getting to 6+ per round.

I'm assuming my mana issues are simply because holy eats mana real bad, but I still don't understand how the real players even sustain. In the longer arenas my mana consumption rate outpaces my mana gain rate and I'm scrambling by the end to buy turns for mana pot to recover and even attacking sometimes to proc ether theft. I didn't think most people use mana elixirs regularly, but that could solve it I think.

Thank you for the trials and the responses though : ) . I'll try to find a cheap legendary heaven-sent cotton and do 3+2 instead of 4+1. I notice in your trial you had several cottons and the divine proficiency suffix on the staff.

I think mana sustain is proficiency driven - but if you are having to use mana elixirs, what I'd do is to turn off tier 3 in regular hover and just use tier 1 and 2. You can have the full rotation in shift-hover so you can use tier 3 at the beginning of the round for max efficiency.

This might be a stupid question but do you have your abilities slotted? like, not just trained, but actually put in there for that persona?

This might be a stupid question but do you have your abilities slotted? like, not just trained, but actually put in there for that persona?

Yeah : (

I'm gonna tinker around with it a bit more but I was on the verge of giving it up the other day until I'm way better resourced.

It seems the monsterbation scripts doesn't work well with hentaiverse dark and HV Statistics, Tracking, and Analysis Tool.

How can I solve the conflict problems?
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hehe

Your profs is too low. Most holy mages aim for 1.0 prof factor, but you only have 1.5. Even for low difficulties you need higher profs. Low-profs=low casting-speed+high mana consumption+more counter-resist(not a problem in low difficulty)
Make sure you buy the prof perk and forge your profs.

Even my dark and holy sets needs aether shards to prevent from using mana elixirs. Non-imp styles eat mana a lot. You also need to cure a lot more, the supportive prof perk is also very useful for holy only.

You've chosen the non-imperil. Then you will have to pay for it. You need to cure more than imp styles do, drink more potions . That's way to go. I suppose you haven't get used to mage style yet, because all mages are just constantly healing. Sometimes I have to cure 3 times consecutively in late IW and PFDfest.
Get your monsterbation well set and get used to constant consumables and healing. Drinking more potions and constant healing doesn't mean you cannot complete Arenas, unless all your healing, including potions, elixirs are in cool down.