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post Apr 26 2019, 21:13
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 26 2019, 20:23) *
I don't understand why everyone keeps recommending that much STR to play melee. All it does is adding a few tiny points to an already very large pool of Attack Base Damage (equipment STR+equipment ADB+melee damage ability) and an unefficient buff to crit chance.

What's so hard to understand? It's min-maxing. Games are about munchkinry. If a stat gives positive impact to your play style, you raise it as much as possible. They have diminishing return, no doubt, so sometimes one point in other stat will give better impact than STR. Also, STR happen to be good for all melee style.
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post Apr 27 2019, 02:37
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thanks for the reply Uncle Stu and lestion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 27 2019, 03:37
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 27 2019, 03:23) *

For my part, STR is moderately below mt DEX, END and even below AGI and WIS, yet I still get impressive clear times.


Have you tried using the same equip with different primary stats?
Try a blank persona and focus on the conventional stat distribution and compare clear times.
Just saying "impressive with what I have" says nothing.
You can have impressive clear speeds with full legendary savage slaughter sets and crap STR, with ludicrously high INT.
Doesn't mean it's better.
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post Apr 27 2019, 06:40
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I have a "stupid" question that I couldn't find by searching. How do players seem to obtain Suoerior quality and up level unassigned level equipments? Does it involve resetting the equipment with an amnesia shard? Or are these like gift/prize equipments?

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post Apr 27 2019, 06:49
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QUOTE(Analogdoujin @ Apr 27 2019, 13:40) *

I have a "stupid" question that I couldn't find by searching. How do players seem to obtain Suoerior quality and up level unassigned level equipments? Does it involve resetting the equipment with an amnesia shard? Or are these like gift/prize equipments?

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Generally it's old/obsolete items.
A long long time ago, there were no levels on items. So those items were changed to "unassigned" after the level system was added to the items.


I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 27 2019, 07:54
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Apr 27 2019, 06:49) *

Generally it's old/obsolete items.
A long long time ago, there were no levels on items. So those items were changed to "unassigned" after the level system was added to the items.
I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


100% correct. You can't drop them anymore.
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post Apr 27 2019, 09:00
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QUOTE(Analogdoujin @ Apr 27 2019, 04:40) *

I have a "stupid" question that I couldn't find by searching. How do players seem to obtain Suoerior quality and up level unassigned level equipments? Does it involve resetting the equipment with an amnesia shard? Or are these like gift/prize equipments?

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Most of them are utter crap, you're not missing out on anything.
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post Apr 28 2019, 02:39
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How much proficiency is gained at dawn? I thought it was related to the dawn exp, but seems much smaller than that. Also, is it affected by assimilator level?
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post Apr 28 2019, 02:56
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How much proficiency is gained at dawn? I thought it was related to the dawn exp, but seems much smaller than that. Also, is it affected by assimilator level?


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post Apr 28 2019, 03:04
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Hmm, but I think it's less than that for some reason. Right now my forbidden proficiency gain is around 1.1 per level up WITHOUT any assimilator level (according to the HVUtils simulator), and I got only 0.021 forbidden proficiency gain after the dawn. Since dawn exp is 5%, it should be something like 0.05 according to that post.

oh nvm, so I guess there's this twice stated number thing and even this is not applied for dawn prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Apr 28 2019, 07:59
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 27 2019, 20:04) *

Hmm, but I think it's less than that for some reason. Right now my forbidden proficiency gain is around 1.1 per level up WITHOUT any assimilator level (according to the HVUtils simulator), and I got only 0.021 forbidden proficiency gain after the dawn. Since dawn exp is 5%, it should be something like 0.05 according to that post.

oh nvm, so I guess there's this twice stated number thing and even this is not applied for dawn prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Yeah - the lack of multipliers for dawn proficiency is why I think that some levels in adept learner actually is more cost-effective than higher-level assimilator for proficiency - it shifts exp distribution more towards the higher-proficiency multiplier battle exp compared to dawn exp.
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post Apr 28 2019, 09:22
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Yeah - the lack of multipliers for dawn proficiency is why I think that some levels in adept learner actually is more cost-effective than higher-level assimilator for proficiency - it shifts exp distribution more towards the higher-proficiency multiplier battle exp compared to dawn exp.

... and majes you level up faster, which negates that positive effect.
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post Apr 28 2019, 09:30
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Well for mage levelling faster isn't too much of a penalty, tho. Especially for elemental mages, since T3 coolddown is reduced at level 450. And mage dmg scales faster than monster health, too.
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post Apr 28 2019, 11:35
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 28 2019, 16:30) *

Well for mage levelling faster isn't too much of a penalty, tho. Especially for elemental mages, since T3 coolddown is reduced at level 450. And mage dmg scales faster than monster health, too.


Speaking of, how's your dark set coming along? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Any improvement on clear speeds so far?
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post Apr 28 2019, 11:47
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Apr 28 2019, 05:35) *

Speaking of, how's your dark set coming along? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Any improvement on clear speeds so far?


Ah, yes! I'm getting 2k~2.1k turns on DwD right now. I can expect about 15% damage increase once I get to change my setting from 3+2 to 4+1, so once I get that done there will be a drastic improvement.

I just can't find a charged phase cap tho T_T I do have one in stock, but it's 15% and lv500, so hopefully I can find one with less level and higher edb...
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post Apr 28 2019, 14:57
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What is the reasonable number for counter resist on mages? Is there any cap or you can stack it over 40% and it's still good?

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post Apr 28 2019, 15:42
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 28 2019, 18:47) *

Ah, yes! I'm getting 2k~2.1k turns on DwD right now. I can expect about 15% damage increase once I get to change my setting from 3+2 to 4+1, so once I get that done there will be a drastic improvement.

I just can't find a charged phase cap tho T_T I do have one in stock, but it's 15% and lv500, so hopefully I can find one with less level and higher edb...


Are you going full charged?
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post Apr 28 2019, 15:48
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yep, going fully charged. I think that's the way to go for imperil style, especially so for dark since it's got slower casting speed.
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post Apr 28 2019, 16:49
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Is there any holy mages that can consistently clear PFFEST without using gum and/or vase? I wonder if it'd be viable in deep pffest (900+ rounds) because by then the monsters hit so deadly.

Having heard Noni's having trouble clearing pffest with his non-imperil dark set, I'm beginning to doubt if non-imperil can handle pffest consistently...
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post Apr 28 2019, 16:51
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 28 2019, 23:49) *

Is there any holy mages that can consistently clear PFFEST without using gum and/or vase? I wonder if it'd be viable in deep pffest (900+ rounds) because by then the monsters hit so deadly.

Having heard Noni's having trouble clearing pffest with his non-imperil dark set, I'm beginning to doubt if non-imperil can handle pffest consistently...


Welp, I'm one more piece away from completing my holy set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I'll let you know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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