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post Apr 26 2019, 03:31
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well, you live and learn. Thanks.

Reading how the bazaar works, someone must have sold that in the first place. wow.
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post Apr 26 2019, 06:37
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QUOTE(mustardpie @ Apr 26 2019, 10:46) *

What is the optimal way of levelling primary attributes for a 1h/shield/heavy user?

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Intelligence has no use for a melee build right?
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You can find that in the advanced wiki, here.
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post Apr 26 2019, 09:00
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I would like to try mage after reach lv310.
I do not desire to be stronger but just for fun.
So maybe I should prepare for fiery or arctic.

What's the most cheapest(or efficient) way to play?
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post Apr 26 2019, 09:17
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i have negative stat on this [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/178671372/b378f64884

is it normal ?
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post Apr 26 2019, 09:36
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QUOTE(dingdin @ Apr 26 2019, 09:00) *

What's the most cheapest(or efficient) way to play?
My guess is cheapest mage would be fire.
QUOTE(nek @ Apr 26 2019, 09:17) *

i have negative stat on this [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/178671372/b378f64884

is it normal ?

That -1%? Could be an rounding error, or the equipment ranges are still not up to date.
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post Apr 26 2019, 09:42
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Can someone guide me what I should do with this? To be honest, I have no idea what am I doing.
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Hands: Legendary Cobalt Leather Gauntlets of Protection
Legs: Magnificent Leather Leggings of Protection
Feet: Exquisite Onyx Shade Boots of the Fleet

Also, how to determine if an equipment is good or bad? What should I look at to know?
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post Apr 26 2019, 12:44
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hi the Experts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

got this [alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Shocking Willow Staff of The Curse-weaver from easter trophies so some questions about it

what kind of mage use this Curse-weaver type staff and what kind of play style ?

i play wind mege style for now using this [alt.hentaiverse.org] Magnificent Willow Staff of Focus

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post Apr 26 2019, 13:43
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QUOTE(Noeleo @ Apr 26 2019, 09:42) *

Can someone guide me what I should do with this?
Sure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
QUOTE(Noeleo @ Apr 26 2019, 09:42) *

To be honest, I have no idea what am I doing.

From your set i guess you want suggestions how to play better as 1H. If i am wrong please tell, but as long, i will tell you what i think.
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Int down to lets 50, just for a few cheap spirit points. Agi also down quite a bit. And with the free points i would personally Dex 10 points above Str 10 points above End and End around 30 points above End. As main weapon i would suggest a Rapier of Slaughter, as shield a force shield, but because your buckler is of barrier make sure it has actually a better block as your shield right now. As armor i really suggest to switch to power/plate armor, but just do that with a complete set, because otherwhise you would loose any ability bonus you would otherwhise get.

QUOTE(Noeleo @ Apr 26 2019, 09:42) *

Also, how to determine if an equipment is good or bad? What should I look at to know?
Well, you could use the script Live Percentile Ranges. With that it is quite easy to see that a force shield with 90% is better as one with 40%. And it is also important to just look at the important stats and ignore the other. So for a shield it is of course block, that is the most important you actually should look at, there other thing would be that it is SDE (with Str Dex and End) and not a SDA (with Agi instead of End). For power amor i would say the most important stat is damage, but at your level i would suggest a defensive build made of three pieces of protection and two of warding. Slaughter much later, when you are allready strong enough that you can play arena without been in danger to get killed. And as second the defensive stat, so for a power armor of protection that means physical mitigation. For a weapon the two important stats are damage and parry in that order. Except of course you would play DW and you want a of nimble weapon as off hand in that case i would say parry is more important as damage. Does this answer your question?
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QUOTE(mangafans1 @ Apr 26 2019, 12:44) *

what kind of mage use this Curse-weaver type staff and what kind of play style ?
Afaik no mage style does actually use curse weaver staffs.

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post Apr 26 2019, 14:30
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QUOTE(dingdin @ Apr 26 2019, 08:00) *

I would like to try mage after reach lv310.
I do not desire to be stronger but just for fun.
So maybe I should prepare for fiery or arctic.

What's the most cheapest(or efficient) way to play?
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'Cheapest' would be fire but the real costs for entry-level mages is forging, which is the same for any element, and really really expensive. Expect to drop 20-30mil to be be able to play reasonably well.

QUOTE(mangafans1 @ Apr 26 2019, 11:44) *
what kind of mage use this Curse-weaver type staff and what kind of play style ?


None. Curse-weaver increases deprecating proficiency, so better debuffs, but not good enough to even remotely compare to an elemental-type damage increase
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post Apr 26 2019, 16:45
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 26 2019, 19:43) *
Does this answer your question?

Thank you very much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I'll try this and get the feeling of it.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 26 2019, 19:43) *
Int down to lets 50

Does this mean I have to reduce Int from 300 down to 50? That'll take quite some time since there's a limit of 10 points per day iirc.
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post Apr 26 2019, 16:52
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Well I'd say just don't invest in INT from now on and you should be good. In the long run, (exp to level up from 1 to 300) = (exp to level up from 410 to 411) so you don't have to worry too much about it I'd say.

Some even just recommend 1:1:1:1:1:1.
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post Apr 26 2019, 16:55
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QUOTE(Noeleo @ Apr 26 2019, 16:45) *

Thank you very much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
You are welcome.

QUOTE(Noeleo @ Apr 26 2019, 16:45) *

I'll try this and get the feeling of it.
Well, just keep in mind that the stats are more or less a suggestion got from my personal preference, other people would switch the importance of Str and Dex, but i like that little bit more crit chance and parry you got from Dex. So yeah, get a feeling and see how it works for you.
QUOTE(Noeleo @ Apr 26 2019, 16:45) *

Does this mean I have to reduce Int from 300 down to 50? That'll take quite some time since there's a limit of 10 points per day iirc.
Well, Int does nothing for 1H except a few spirit points, so with it having so high, you waste quite a few xp you could put in other much more important stats, and actually you are right about the limit, but you dont actually do that, there is a way around that, you could just use a blank persona and set everything as you like it. Sorry, i didnt tought about that ealier, and that my friends is the reason why follow up questions are so important. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Apr 26 2019, 16:56
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QUOTE(Noeleo @ Apr 26 2019, 15:45) *

Does this mean I have to reduce Int from 300 down to 50? That'll take quite some time since there's a limit of 10 points per day iirc.


You don't need to worry about dropping points from it - for 1H, there is still some (very minor) benefit from int, in the form of a larger spirit pool. Just don't bother putting any points into it further unless it's extremely cheap exp cost compared to other more important stats.
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post Apr 26 2019, 17:04
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 26 2019, 10:55) *

Well, Int does nothing for 1H except a few spirit points, so with it having so high, you waste quite a few xp you could put in other much more important stats, and actually you are right about the limit, but you dont actually do that, there is a way around that, you could just use a blank persona and set everything as you like it. Sorry, i didnt tought about that ealier, and that my friends is the reason why follow up questions are so important. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


Um, I wouldn't recommend creating a new persona just for that, since he might wanna try out different styles and you can't reset a persona later.
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post Apr 26 2019, 17:05
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QUOTE(lestion @ Apr 26 2019, 16:56) *

You don't need to worry about dropping points from it - for 1H, there is still some (very minor) benefit from int, in the form of a larger spirit pool. Just don't bother putting any points into it further unless it's extremely cheap exp cost compared to other more important stats.
Yeah, but 300 is quite the overkill for his level. I mean even i have only 287 Intelligence. so that should tell you how much less Int he does actually need. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Um, I wouldn't recommend creating a new persona just for that, since he might wanna try out different styles and you can't reset a persona later.
But it would save him quite some time. And there is still number three for another style and also, changing a style takes some time anyway, enough time to set a unused person the way he want it to be later, instead of waiting now for all those Int to decrease now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Apr 26 2019, 19:10
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 26 2019, 06:43) *

From your set i guess you want suggestions how to play better as 1H. If i am wrong please tell, but as long, i will tell you what i think.
Int down to lets 50, just for a few cheap spirit points. Agi also down quite a bit. And with the free points i would personally Dex 10 points above Str 10 points above End and End around 30 points above End. As main weapon i would suggest a Rapier of Slaughter, as shield a force shield, but because your buckler is of barrier make sure it has actually a better block as your shield right now. As armor i really suggest to switch to power/plate armor, but just do that with a complete set, because otherwhise you would loose any ability bonus you would otherwhise get.



I'm having a bit of problem with determining how much Agi and Dex to get as a 1h/Heavy Armor. Is there a hard number where you should stop? Or is it relative to your other stat?
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post Apr 26 2019, 19:21
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QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 26 2019, 19:10) *

I'm having a bit of problem with determining how much Agi and Dex to get as a 1h/Heavy Armor. Is there a hard number where you should stop? Or is it relative to your other stat?
Well, agi you should have at least around as much Dex as you have Str, if you know prefer the damage from from Str, or the higher crit chance bonus and additional parry is up to you, as you can see from the post you did quote, i prefer having higher dex. And your agi should be somewhere around your level, but still low enough so that your attack speed bonus is zero. Does this help?
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post Apr 26 2019, 19:52
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 26 2019, 12:21) *

Well, agi you should have at least around as much Dex as you have Str, if you know prefer the damage from from Str, or the higher crit chance bonus and additional parry is up to you, as you can see from the post you did quote, i prefer having higher dex. And your agi should be somewhere around your level, but still low enough so that your attack speed bonus is zero. Does this help?


So it's fine to keep adding dex/agi for now as long as they're pretty even with str?

Right now I'm just too lazy to firgure out what to do and have all my stats except int the same, with int adding up to where its cost is less than 1/1000 of the other stats. So, like right at this point, I just have all 5 stats at 305 and 87 in int.

I mean I read that accuracy would be pointless beyond 200%, so I assumed we should stop adding dex at some point... But maybe it's better to just choose gears without attack accuracy if it's too high instead of stop adding dex?
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post Apr 26 2019, 20:23
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I don't understand why everyone keeps recommending that much STR to play melee. All it does is adding a few tiny points to an already very large pool of Attack Base Damage (equipment STR+equipment ADB+melee damage ability) and an unefficient buff to crit chance.
On the other hand, we can't say that much for DEX, END and even AGI and WIS. The last two ones having (next to) no bonus coming from equipment.

For my part, STR is moderately below mt DEX, END and even below AGI and WIS, yet I still get impressive clear times.

My own opinion regarding the allocation of PABs is more based on the ratio global enhancement/investment. I certainly prefer allocating 10 points in WIS to get an overall 5% buff to MMit (and magic accuracy, but that's a thing only for depr casting melee like me), than 10 points in END that costed overall 8 times more for only +1% enhancement in PMit and MMit, and very little HP.

Well, take it or not, but raw strength doesn't do everything in this game. That much is certain.
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post Apr 26 2019, 20:34
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QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 26 2019, 19:52) *

So it's fine to keep adding dex/agi for now as long as they're pretty even with str?
Well i did say that for Dex, but not for Agi.
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Right now I'm just too lazy to firgure out what to do and have all my stats except int the same, with int adding up to where its cost is less than 1/1000 of the other stats. So, like right at this point, I just have all 5 stats at 305 and 87 in int.
Ah, i see. Well, in that case i would even suggest set less points into Wis. As 1H you dont really need as much wis as Str, Dex and End. Tbh i did even stop completly to put any points into Wis somewhere in my early 400ish level, that was when i did reach 20% resistance.
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I mean I read that accuracy would be pointless beyond 200%, so I assumed we should stop adding dex at some point... But maybe it's better to just choose gears without attack accuracy if it's too high instead of stop adding dex?
Ehm, yeah, that about the 200% accuracy is true, but dex does a bit more as just increase your accuracy. It has a higher bonus to crit chance as Str and it gives you a bonus to parry, so reducing it to the additional acc isnt really a good idea.
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