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I've come to the conclusion that I should just focus on gaining levels / proficiency and hoping that money making will be easier when i reach a higher level.

I'm starting to think that's only true if you can reguarly beat the Arenas that pay out more than they cost (which I can't yet). But in order to do that, you probably not only need high level abilities and profs, but money to buy better gear and weapons (and I wouldn't wait on them to drop even if I had maxed out the training).

I've never used H@H, but I have uploaded galleries, donated, and adopted a server. In my experience, the best way to get money without actually spending it is galleries. And not just any galleries, popular ones, and lots of them, because depending on the rate, a ton of GP might only be a handful of credits. The more on-topic they are, the more GP you earn.

But if you are willing to spend a little money, I'd say adopt a server. The gain is only temporary, but it is quite a gain. That way you're earning GP and Hath at the same time, so you can afford to sell one here and there for some quick credits, and still make steady progress towards Hath Perks. I just bought some new gear and weapons by selling old stuff, and converting GP from my server.

In short, contributing in some way makes the game a bit easier to play, especially in terms of earning credits.

Then again, I only ever grind to about 20 or 30 rounds, so maybe you get better results beyond that. But it seems to be hit and miss for most people, unless they're doing ridiculous amounts of grinding.

The thing about galleries is copyright. I don't own the copyright of any gallery, so I can't really upload anything without infringing the copyright laws (correct me if I'm wrong). As for money, I can't spare any at this moment, so that leaves me with H@H as the only easy way to get hath quick.

BTW... I just tried caking for 60-something rounds and didn't get much stuff. True, there were a few more potions and draughts than in normal grinds, but that may also be because I'm fighting ~8 monsters instead of the usual 2 to 4.

The thing about galleries is copyright. I don't own the copyright of any gallery, so I can't really upload anything without infringing the copyright laws (correct me if I'm wrong). As for money, I can't spare any at this moment, so that leaves me with H@H as the only easy way to get hath quick.

Actually, using H@H is also infringing copyright laws, as the pictures you don't own end up on your hard drive, and your H@H client is distributing them to other people.

I hope E-H will one day evolve (even if only in the meaning of the gallery engine being used for commercial purposes) so that we can get the images and pay the authors somehow. Until that time, I choose to see it as a means to preserve old creations, of which last printed copy might be destroyed before the copyright expires. Something like Google with orphaned works. I wonder how many doujin circles whose works we have here are now dissolved, with no one ever to claim copyright ownership.

Of course, the strict interpretation of copyright doesn't mean that if you cannot find the author you are allowed to distribute his works... :>

On the other side, aren't doujins inherently illegal copyvios anyway? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Copyright was (at least in 19th century, age before commercials) widely considered a lesser evil, a way to encourage creative people to create by granting them temporary monopoly for their works, which would otherwise immediately enter public domain. This law works this way for the benefit of society. Copying and storage of orphaned works might be considered against the letter of the law, but surely not against the goal of its enaction.

Of course, the strict interpretation of copyright doesn't mean that if you cannot find the author you are allowed to distribute his works... :>

On the other side, aren't doujins inherently illegal copyvios anyway? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

illegal copyvios is a double negative (sorta). You don't need illegal because it is implied in the word itself.

Also, doujinshi would be protected to a large extent as a derivative work of original copyrighted material. If doujinshi were illegal, would you think large conventions like comiket would be allowed to exist if much of its material was under copyright infringement? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

The sharing of doujinshi like we do however is technically sharing copies copyrighted material that we do not have the expressed permission to do so, ergo against copyright law. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Doujinshi is considered a gray area, and large companies just overlook it because it increases interest in their franchise.

However, they can't outright condone it, for then they would have to claim it and make sure it comes out in proper quality, which would make them responsible for it.


So yeah, kind of a tacit agreement.

So... does that mean you can upload any dojinshi that's in your drive, or do you have to contact the author/circle to get their permission before you upload their works?

You can upload anything as long as it's related to Hentai and it's not exist in E-Hentai Galleries.

Edit: And not violate the RoE and DNP.

So... does that mean you can upload any dojinshi that's in your drive, or do you have to contact the author/circle to get their permission before you upload their works?

You have permission of the owner of this site to upload stuff here. As for the permission from the author, whether your uploading stuff here without it is legal or not depends on the law of your country, and probably international agreements that country signed, so you should know. If you live in a country that doesn't have copyright laws, it's surely legal for you to do that.

It sometimes happens that copyright owners demand to take content they have right to off galleries, and it's then taken down, and that's it.

I've found hath dealing to be very profitable
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psst hey buddy; wanna buy some hath (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) lol

Sorry for necroposting but credits have been a mayor issue for me lately.

This days i am between works and i have decided to do some hardcore grinding. But... i am finding myself in quite a thight spot because for each round in the grindfest@cake lvl 27 i get around 3.5 times the ammount of exp compared to credits. That is without PP (don't have the hats for it), no XP ability points, and only 5% extra XP from training.

That is making me very undergeared for my current level. From what i read from midoriyama, the best ratio for credit/XP seems to be Normal, however my numbers seem waaaay off the 1.8 C/EXP he was experimenting in Oct, more around 2.8 Exp/C. I am assuming this is due a patch, but maybe i am doing something wrong?

Anyway, i don't have any intention of grinding credits outside HV, so, I would like to know if there is a better credit/XP ratio acivity than grindfest@normal

Any help will be greatly appriciated. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Anyway, i don't have any intention of grinding credits outside HV, so, I would like to know if there is a better credit/XP ratio acivity than grindfest@normal

Any help will be greatly appriciated. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Certain battle challenges (Arenas and Ring of Blood) give you major credit bonuses the first time you win. At your level, though, you don't yet have access to the arenas that really start to pay off, or Ring of Blood. And even if you did, without decent gear, you probably wouldn't win. But don't be afraid to level up, even if you're broke. The higher your level, the more abilities you have in battle, which gives you more ways to win.

So for now, it comes down to how badly you want credits. If you want them enough to actually pay for them, there's always donating. Plus, if you donate enough, you start to earn credits and Hath daily, just by coming to the site, and you can make a lot of scratch with Hath dealing. I'm closing in on purchasing a new Aura Slot because of it. Or you could try Hentai@Home to earn Hath, which I couldn't really tell you about, as I don't use it. I assume if you don't have enough credits to buy gear, you don't have enough to buy Hath on the Exchange, either.

If you'd rather stick to the free route, well, that's a bit more work (not to mention more time-consuming). Here are some in-game things you can do right now to earn cred:

1) Sell off any items you don't need.
2) ...that's pretty much it.

No, really. If you grind/battle a couple of days in a row, you should have a nice pile of items. You won't make major credits that way, but it helps a bit. A tiny bit.

As I've said many times before, the idea is that contributing something to the site offers certain rewards, which can be used in the game if you so desire. For example, this is how I made credits this week:

14,000 C from winning 3 new Arenas.
10,000 C from Ring of Blood.
8,000+ C from Hath sales today alone.
2,800 C from new dawn bonuses every week.

The latter two are from donation/adoption, but the first two ultimately come from aggressive leveling (RoB access at lvl 50, Focused Aura at lvl 60). No matter what your credit status, abilities can help you get ahead. That's why Item World is actually a very good thing: you don't get ANY credits, but you're gaining EXP and improving your gear at the same time, for free.

As for your gear troubles, your best bet is to save up a few credits (maybe around 8,000), and then buy from someone on the forum. In most cases, they're cheaper than the Bazaar, and have a better selection.

This post has been edited by dap00: Nov 30 2009, 06:20

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This post has been edited by r3dd0ssal: Nov 5 2020, 10:37

Good point. Someone did that with one of my galleries, and I didn't even realize it until I saw I had 9000 GP under EH Tracker where there were none before.

Thanks, I love that this place is soo unforgiving to lazy leachers like my humble person.

I'll consider H@H and doing torrents in the future, the problem right now is that my ISP is an asimetrical piece of garbage that gives me amazing 10 KBPS upload (yep, KBPS, not a thypo). Anything that involves uploading is painful, damn mexican ISPs.

But as soon as i have some 50 bucks sitting in my pants with nothing better to do ill switch providers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I guess at the moment ill just go nuts leveling and keep my eyes peeled for good deals at WTS and the bazaar.

Meh I have 20KB/s upload and I do ok

Want money? Kiss a rich user's ass.

Sorry for necroposting but credits have been a mayor issue for me lately.

This days i am between works and i have decided to do some hardcore grinding. But... i am finding myself in quite a thight spot because for each round in the grindfest@cake lvl 27 i get around 3.5 times the ammount of exp compared to credits. That is without PP (don't have the hats for it), no XP ability points, and only 5% extra XP from training.

That is making me very undergeared for my current level. From what i read from midoriyama, the best ratio for credit/XP seems to be Normal, however my numbers seem waaaay off the 1.8 C/EXP he was experimenting in Oct, more around 2.8 Exp/C. I am assuming this is due a patch, but maybe i am doing something wrong?

Anyway, i don't have any intention of grinding credits outside HV, so, I would like to know if there is a better credit/XP ratio acivity than grindfest@normal

Any help will be greatly appriciated. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

In fact, my opinion on this subject has changed pretty wildly. I have long lost interest in the credit/experience ratio and I've been getting more interested in Item World than in Grindfests, even though I don't get any credits directly that way.

The reason is you don't really get many credits by doing grindfests (in my case I usually get around 100 on normal difficulty) and you don't get much experience either. On the other hand, high-level equipments sell for more than items from a lower level, so it's in your interest (at least for the long run) to level up quickly, because that way you will get more credits for your unwanted stuff (remember, the equips you find are 0 to 5 levels under your own level). And the best way to hoard experience like a madman is to upgrade your own equips, that is... Item World!

Yes, I can imagine your patience is limited and you don't want to have to wait for weeks before getting a few credits and upgrading your weapon & armor. In that case, you can always contribute to the site, for example, by uploading hentai. H@H is also an option, even though your upload speed is bad. I don't usually average more than 15 KB/s, but haths are getting there, slow but steady.

This post has been edited by midoriyama: Dec 2 2009, 00:09

for gp: download a couple of doujins,cgs of a character or serie, add standalone pics and classify it as imageset, it won't be a dupe/compilation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)