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Aug 26 2009, 19:36
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Tenboro

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So, one of the reasons I hate reseting stuff came up during today's update, and resulted in lost ability points for some people. In order to lose points you would have to a> not have any points in the credit boost, b> have unassigned points laying around, and c> have obtained points outside of the post-HentaiVerse levelups and training.
"Lost Points" would be points obtained either through special events (like the obligatory Yule points) and through the "bonus" Skill Points you could occasionally gain through the old system with certain skills.
Completely fixing this would involve either rolling back to yesterday's backup (which is about 36 hours old at this point), or writing some stupidly complex hack to analyze the backup and correct the discrepancy.
Since I can't be arsed to do that, I've just added three ability points to all the 5093 people who have recently used the "new" ability tree. This should take care of the vast majority of the lost points.
If and only if you lost more than three ability points, post here with how many points you believe you've lost and I'll check the backup.
Everyone else stay out of this thread.
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Aug 26 2009, 20:23
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thetriman
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As a reminder, I think I lost somewhere around 14 total?
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Aug 26 2009, 20:26
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Cyriel
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i had 15, woke up today with 10, ended up with 13 <3
so 2 lost ^^
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Aug 26 2009, 23:31
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nick321
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Yeah I think I had an extra two yesturday, I'm not 100% sure though (because I leveled up recently).
Edit: I've spent some now, but I'm fairly sure I'm missing two still.
This post has been edited by nick321: Aug 27 2009, 12:22
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Aug 27 2009, 02:02
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hitokiri84
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I believe I lost about 20 points or so. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) The truth is I have so many points now that I have no idea if I lost or gained with this flat +3 increase. Is there any way you can check mine manually? After all, I was still in the old system earning those bonus points for a good 5 weeks while the beta was closed. This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Aug 27 2009, 02:06
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Aug 27 2009, 07:49
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cptkleenex
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Between the 1 lost point from the yule tidings giveaway, the 4 I should have gained for changing ranks at 20,30,40,50 and the lucky break ones I hit, I'd venture a guess there could be 10+ points out there still for me.
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Aug 27 2009, 22:57
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Tenboro

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cpt and nick, you both had points in the credit bonus so you wouldn't have lost anything even if you had unassigned points.
hito, as far as I can tell you had 298 points in abilities and no unassigned points at the time of the backup, now you have 303 points in abilities and still no unassigned points. With the three points and two levels gained, I doubt you lost anything.
Fixed Cyriel +2, triman +7 according to the backup.
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Aug 27 2009, 23:11
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nick321
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 28 2009, 06:57)  cpt and nick, you both had points in the credit bonus so you wouldn't have lost anything even if you had unassigned points.
That can't be right, the number I have at the moment is 67 in tree and 0 unassigned. I've level 52 + 12 in ability boost + 3 bonus = 67. I leveled up about 3 ranks before HV, and I got a bunch of Lucky breaks (more then average), so I have lost those, and I do remember reseting the tree around the time of 0.3.3, and only putting points into HP and MP, and remember thinking "why do I only have 17 spare now instead of 22" after HV. So yeah :\
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Aug 27 2009, 23:26
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Tenboro

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If you reset your skill tree between the backup and 0.3.3 it's possible, I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
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Aug 27 2009, 23:28
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nick321
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 28 2009, 07:26)  If you reset your skill tree between the backup and 0.3.3 it's possible, I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
That's highly likly as I leveled up to 50 around that time, and I reset upon a rank up. Thank you very much.
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Aug 27 2009, 23:40
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 27 2009, 15:57)  hito, as far as I can tell you had 298 points in abilities and no unassigned points at the time of the backup, now you have 303 points in abilities and still no unassigned points. With the three points and two levels gained, I doubt you lost anything. Thanks for checking. The free points are much appreciated. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Aug 27 2009, 23:49
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Aug 28 2009, 00:08
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Cyriel
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Thankies ^^
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Aug 28 2009, 01:01
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Xiandora
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You really ought to make some kind of in-game "Notification" system or something to be able to inform anyone who doesn't regularily check the forum for changes like these. I check the forum every now and then, and I've still ended up losing credits because of some of the changes that have occured over the time I've been playing (couldn't beat an arena fight which I could prior to change). Not that it might be that important right now, but it will most likely be necessary to have something like it in the future. Not trying to whine or anything, I'm just saying.
I've learned to check the forums whenever I find something to be strange or funny, but sometimes it's already too late when I do.
Anyway, thanks for the extra ability points, really appreciate it. Glad to know it was intended and not something that had run afoul.
This post has been edited by Xiandora: Aug 28 2009, 01:02
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Aug 28 2009, 03:29
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masquepiph
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I think I might've lost some, since even with the 3 given to us I can't seem to make the ability tree the same as it used to be. And I'm positive I had none in the credit bonuses. Also, I hit the reset button for abilities right before the update started xD
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Aug 28 2009, 10:17
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(nick321 @ Aug 27 2009, 23:28)  That's highly likly as I leveled up to 50 around that time, and I reset upon a rank up.
Thank you very much.
At the time of the backup you were lvl 49 with no unassigned AP and 67 points in the tree. Now you are level 52 with the same amount of points, so you've lost three in addition to the added ones. They should be added now. QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Aug 28 2009, 03:29)  I think I might've lost some, since even with the 3 given to us I can't seem to make the ability tree the same as it used to be. And I'm positive I had none in the credit bonuses. Also, I hit the reset button for abilities right before the update started xD
You've gained one level and have three more points than before, so no. For future posts in this thread, it actually takes a not insignificant time to do these checks, so from now, if you think you possibly perhaps could have maybe lost a point and want me to check just to be absolutely completely 100% sure you're not missing anything... I will be correcting your ability points to what they actually should be, so you could lose the three points I've given to everyone if you didn't lose anything. The whole point about those points was not having to do checks for everyone.
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Aug 28 2009, 13:43
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nick321
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 28 2009, 08:17)  At the time of the backup you were lvl 49 with no unassigned AP and 67 points in the tree. Now you are level 52 with the same amount of points, so you've lost three in addition to the added ones. They should be added now.
Thank you very much! Greatly appreciated!
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Aug 28 2009, 15:28
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Drygone Forever
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I think I've lost some.
Check please!!!
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Aug 28 2009, 15:51
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(Liquid Drygun @ Aug 28 2009, 15:28)  I think I've lost some.
Check please!!!
@Backup level=44, trained=6, unassigned=14, assigned=40, 54 points total @Now level=45, trained=6, unassigned=8, assigned=50, 58 points total, one gained through level Corrected by -3 ability points. I was serious.
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Aug 30 2009, 07:03
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cpane
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I dont think i lost any points but im having a problem where ive maxed out fireball, icestrike and inferno but when i go into battle the only spells i have are magic missile and the spells i put those 3 exp points in cure and snowstorm.
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